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this shit is batcrazy… ill go live isolated in the forrest and only eat mushrooms and wild animals… wait |
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1420 deaths and nearly 10k infected in the last couple days in italy |
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shit just saw nearly 800 people dead in 24 hours in Italy 50 here in the uk keep safe mo, this is utter insanity |
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curves in england and usa seem to be steeper than italy https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/03/19/coronavirus-dea ths-rising-faster-uk-italy/ https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2020/3/20/21179040/coron avirus-us-italy-not-overreacting |
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chicken littles vs. unicorns; who will win? |
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there seems to be a worrying amount of Americans on social media saying its a psy op or hoax, why is there so many of them that deny reality |
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i think it's natural for there to be a deep cleave between those who under-react, and those who overreact. in short supply will be those who strike an appropriate balance |
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If it's real then the US was unprepared and Trump is an idiot, but of course that can't be true so it isn't real. it's similar to climate change. If anthropogenic climate change is real, then we have to change our ways, but we shouldn't have to change our ways so it isn't real. |
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I suppose its a general deep mistrust of the mass media (which is generally advised), or selectively believing what fox news says |
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yeah I get that feeling im stuck in the middle, sort of not knowing how to react, |
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I guess its felt like a weird cult of personality surrounding Trump for a while now but its never been so apparent from the mega backflip he has done on Corona, from democratic hoax to paraphrasing "nobody could have foreseen this" |
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gonna be hella cognitive dissonance amongst conspiracy fans when they're wheezing to death. not that being right is much protection against getting ill, we all need to modify our behaviour pronto i guess. hopefully with state help wherever we are |
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it's left the nutters a bit flat footed, I was checking out Infowars earlier and the articles and comments are torn between hoax and bioweapon. They can't make a coherent narrative out of it because of Trump's pivot. I'm guessing eventually it will settle into "they tricked Trump into saying it was a hoax, to make him look bad" |
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yeah I was thinking that, I was seeing some comments on twitter, like "the infection rate is bullshit, its a hoax its not real" and I was thinking should I reply and I thought no its ultimately fruitless, its sad they will find out the hard way |
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it not beyond the realms of possibility its a bioweapon them having a virus lab in Wuhan and human error could be a thing. I can understand thinking about that possibility yeah. I cant imagine being so mentally isolated that the whole thing is a hoax thoughg |
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yeah mental gymnastics, I don't know if that's what they really deep down believe or they are just too ashamed to lose face by backing the biggest wanker of all time |
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there is so much nonsense flying about. in the US, representing the unicorn camp, trump buried his head in the sand for months on the issue, burning time that could have been used to prepare testing, supplies, whatever. now that he's finally acknowledging it, testing has finally, eventually, begun to sort of ramp up. big surprise, we are now discovering many more cases... but, on the chicken little side, i want to slap twitter for the number of chart wizard posts, are you factoring in the sudden increase in testing or just using the sudden increase in testing to make something people will flip over and retweet |
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just cooked up another batch of quarantine burritos |
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yeah mental gymnastics, I don't know if that's what they really deep down believe or they are just too ashamed to lose face by backing the biggest wanker of all time yes, this is it. trump has become part of their self, their identity, and it'd be easier for them to deny their arm existed. there have been so many shitty things done because of trump -- racism, human rights, financial fraud, election meddling -- and all because people really care about guns and abortion and jesus. never mind that jesus would be against all of this, we get to control the ladyparts and shoot guns... short of a massive dose of DMT or something, i'm not sure any of them could find their way over to the other side short of a stay in a mental hospital |
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the mormon trumput horn fell is it a sign from god |
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i think everyone is kind of burning out about thinking about it. i'm just going to stay home with my quarantine burritos and play fallout 3, which i just re-installed. something about seeing all the grocery store shelves empty made me want to swing by the super duper market again |
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I still believe this virus is pretty mild, compared to the flu. A few stats from germany: In 2017/2018 25.000 people died of the flu, 18 Millions were infected in germany. I have my doubts about the dangers of this new virus. It seems, only old people die from it. People are overracting |
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it matters, but it's not the apocalypse. i guess. |
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: illinois gov. pritzker mesmerizinglly fat |
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No it is not. In India one billion people aren't allowed to leave the house...while 4 people died from the coronavirus. Maybe i am dead in two months, but right now this seems insane to me. |
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Japan has only 892 coronavirus infected people. Usually people in Japan wear face masks. But hey, sure we could wear masks, but what if instead we close all the businesses and make everyone stay home so we can ruin our economy? |
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que sera sera |
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I hope more people die...or i am going to kill myself because i cant take the stupidity of our species anymore.. |
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I don’t want to debate this really and u never respond to me but ill let my uninformed thought out here: those countries with low infection rates taking extreme measures, do so as to not get to the point that countries with high transmissions have. It's an especially good idea for developing countries to do this, since they don't have the infrastructure to deal should things get worse (even developed countries that have been hit hard don't have adequate infrastructure). I don’t think infection rates are a good indicator for WHEN to shut down the country. Rather do it now than later. Again, no expert here, but the common flu had a whole 365 days to reach its record numbers in 2018. Covid 19 only been around for a few months now. In the interest of objectivity, I suggest you hold that opinion for when the year is over. And what are you complaining about? Not like you leave the house anyway. |
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i appreciate monoids and portnoys recent posts, for i am torn a bit between what measures seem to be appropiate/neccessary. maybe rethinking it helps to shed some light on it. from my previous posts you see, that i believe a temporary quarantine to flatten the curve and prepare for changes in everyday life is important. by now i do fear about the economic and social changes aswell. if we lose small busineses and privately owned restaurants, artists what we will be left may be a corporate world or global recession, loss of public funding, health insurance qualities. of course i neither want to lose my mum and her partner and dont want to take any risks on the latter, but there has to be a way to continue normal life soon too. to the flu/covid comparison: its true that by now the past years flus seem ahead in the death toll. we lost 25.000 elders last year and compared to corona nobody cared. why is that so? and why is it different with corona? from as far as i can recall many elders seem to die of pneunomia. lets have a look: 344.000 heart/circulatory system 227.600 cancer 86.400 respiratory system (including the flu i guess?) so its no. 3. i took that as a sign that our health system is that good that peoples hearts, brains and other vital organs last that long, one of the only things left to kill you is a flu/pneumonia because you cant keep up a good immune system forever. especially if youre not able to move around any more. so why make all the fuss about it? elders dieing anyway, right? BECAUSE IT IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO. |
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now i did wonder why the governments now all of a sudden do care about the elders. my guess is that they did the numbers and (opposed to the climate change sadly) figured out, that taking measures will cost them less. |
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I’m bored and my lockdown with my old man hasn’t officially started yet. Fuck knows what it’s gonna be like in 6 weeks. |
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have absolutely no problem with lockdown. I could stay in my house without internet for the rest of my life, and not get bored. its fun looking at webcams of deserted public places around the world on skylinewebcams.com... 42nd Street NYC looks shut down, |
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NYC looks like the beginning of Vanilla Sky |
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strange times, if the Uk was an ant colony it would be colony collapse time, sad to see my fellow men(well some of them) act like complete buffoon, its been alright where I live at the moment, don't know why our country is in the state its in, when other European countries seem to have much more solidarity, I blame the mass media years of dividing people by class and politics |
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closest loss so far was the mother of an ex-colleague |
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sorry to hear that still feels so surreal, also please dont mistake my last two posts. hope things will get better soon. |
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i just gave condolences via facebook comment |
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YouTube, the world’s largest free video service, with 2.1bn monthly users, has announced it is to reduce the quality of its streams across Europe to standard definition for a period of 30 days. prime, too. i've always felt streaming was a shit solution: use two gigs of data every time you watch something, or download it once and be done with it? i think i need to get around to sorting out wireguard and start torrenting again |
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also netflix. and perhaps the broken biscuit's iPlayer too |
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have absolutely no problem with lockdown. I could stay in my house without internet for the rest of my life, and not get bored. same here. i used to refuse office jobs entirely in favor of remote work, until a brush with poverty changed my tune. then i've bitched extensively on here about how much i hate the train; my commute. i can typically count on my mum for blunt assessments. if, say, i was getting a bit fat, and i admitted it to most people, they'd be all "oh, no, you're fine! you're skinny!" whereas mum would simply say, "yes, you're getting quite fat, are you eating too much frozen stuff?" and then proceed to pester me about it every time i speak to her until the issue is addressed. while there's a debate to be had about how this effected my childhood development, as an adult, i appreciate her unflinchingly blunt assessments. one came a few months back: the company got bought out, and there was talk the office might close down and make everyone remote. i said, "that would be great, it'd would save me a bunch of money and i wouldn't have to take the train anymore, and i'd have more time, and..." then she cuts me off: "ohhhh, no. i hope not. you seem much better since you're around people more." aaand, fuck, she's totally right. so, i feel great on lockdown; perhaps you do too. but that doesn't mean it's completely healthy and fine |
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yeah wonder when netflix or other streaming will slow down. watched a marley doc yesterday and canceled it due to loading errors. glad i still have months of content on drives. and a library on printed media :) |
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None of the streaming services I have have been downgraded yet. Maybe because I’m on cable and not using the phone line? |
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Well yes, my usual lifestyle is not affected by the Virus. Yet, i just don't wanna become unemployed, and it is unsettling to see my fellow man develope a form of anxiety and social phobia. If people stay at home, don't go out, don't have any social interaction it will take a massive toll on their mental and physical healh over time |
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get mullvad, your choice of wireguard or openvpn |
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I’ve made myself a weekly timetable to keep me busy, have organised a 30 film list to watch with my dad and might buy an old banger and try and do it up on the drive. Got to apply for universal credit tomorrow because fuck the self employed, anyone else done it? What’s it like? |
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whatever it will take to get my (mostly actually okay for an ISP, smaller than most) ISP to stop sending me dire letters whenever i fire up bittorrent. |
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Well yes, my usual lifestyle is not affected by the Virus. Yet, i just don't wanna become unemployed, and it is unsettling to see my fellow man develope a form of anxiety and social phobia. If people stay at home, don't go out, don't have any social interaction it will take a massive toll on their mental and physical healh over time oh, ditto. as a master-class homebody i work out in my kitchen and living room anyways; just need to add in some walking to replace the cardio walking to and from train stations would give me. but not everyone is this way, and gyms shutting down actually makes me worry about some of my cow orkers because they don't have some home yoga routine involving acid house and indian clubs like i do and, yes, my job. my sector is not immediately impacted by the virus shutdown, but it will be soon enough. it's something everyone needs, but, if shit is crazy, people will wait on buying for up to a few months. it's a publicly traded company that, unlike uber et all, has positive cashflow, cash reserves, etc. but if the economic continues to shit for more than a few months they will probably start to make some cuts. what worries me most are the email blasts from C-level that mirror state governator press releases: hey, things are rough, but we're ok. hey, we're ok, but we're freezing hires. hey, we're ok, but can you cut down on expenditures too? thanking my lucky stars i'm not part of a team easily cut, i.e. sales |
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I’ve made myself a weekly timetable to keep me busy, have organised a 30 film list to watch with my dad and might buy an old banger and try and do it up on the drive. Got to apply for universal credit tomorrow because fuck the self employed, anyone else done it? What’s it like? christ, you have to try that hard? what are you doing on xlt? just write us some banging acid; that should take a week or three |
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haven't been on universal credit, but applying for benefits in the uk is like being in so Kafkaesque nightmare, you have no benefit of the doubt, no leeway and no mercy. Benefit is a misnomer, id rather be kicked in the bollocks that apply for benefits again, I really really mean that, although they are vital to stay alive |
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