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dave_g
from United Kingdom on 2008-02-02 18:11 [#02171044]
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If anyone can sit through that whole video I will give them a tenner.
oh and don't forget part II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gT5ugTdcSTk
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nacmat
on 2008-02-02 18:13 [#02171047]
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so how many out of the 1000 people who have ordered the ltd double cd post at here xlt/watmm?
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-02 18:14 [#02171048]
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jesus christ
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-02-02 18:22 [#02171049]
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i am deleting internet. get your important files onto flopy disks
i don't joke and dosent afraid of anything
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ecnadniarb
on 2008-02-02 18:32 [#02171051]
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I straight up love this album...official.
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-02 19:20 [#02171061]
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the best part is when he pronounces the track titles ahahaahhhhahaahah
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-02 19:26 [#02171066]
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is fol3 a hip hop trk for anyone else
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2008-02-02 19:28 [#02171067]
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yeah its def' their most diverse album, tenderizing too
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bro 19
from montreal (Canada) on 2008-02-02 23:54 [#02171102]
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why did they go back when so much , I mean so much could be done looking forward!
This is how I feel about this album
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2008-02-03 01:02 [#02171106]
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my guess is, about 50 for watmm and zilty combined, and most of those at zilty (more europeans). ->15/35, watmm/xlt? (not counting double buys)
by the time the mostly american watmm woke up, the limited editions were already sold out.
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-03 05:48 [#02171127]
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omg i forgot to download tracks 19 and 20 off bleep, i can't believe it, 2 more traks 2 expore
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melack
from barcielwave on 2008-02-03 06:22 [#02171131]
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wow, limited edition sold out faster than the analord binder... 4 days...
who bought more than 1 copy?
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trewq
from doodam (Netherlands, The) on 2008-02-03 06:52 [#02171136]
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overall i think the tracks are way too short they just reworked some parts of their liveset and made them in too small tracks
what i always loved about autechre is that they have really long tracks continually evolving. With these tracks they stay the same a long time and there is not that much happening wich is much different then their last three albums
but its the best IDM available at the moment :-
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trewq
from doodam (Netherlands, The) on 2008-02-03 07:01 [#02171137]
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there is a lot happening ofcourse but its more minimal sounding i did mean
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trewq
from doodam (Netherlands, The) on 2008-02-03 07:09 [#02171138]
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however some tracks i did mean :-
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Broken_Drum
from United Kingdom on 2008-02-03 09:17 [#02171166]
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My friend is seriously pissed off because he didn't get the special edition. AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-03 09:38 [#02171175]
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Yeah. The fact that you know they won't go anywhere makes them feel strangely repetitive, even though it's one of Ae's less repetitive albums. Like, even though a track like "Cipater" contains a lot of repetition, it makes for an intense, amazing listen because it always feels like it's going somewhere. Unlike many of the pieces on the new musics release of Awtechre.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-02-03 09:52 [#02171176]
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lol exactly
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-02-03 12:34 [#02171229]
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i ordered the special edition and i am both a watmm and xltronic poster. i like sausage fests
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2008-02-03 12:36 [#02171230]
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holy cow this is a highly in-depth review!
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cx
from Norway on 2008-02-03 12:41 [#02171233]
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aliens rock
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magicant
from Canada on 2008-02-03 15:36 [#02171289]
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watmm sucks
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-02-03 15:53 [#02171299]
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watmm - where it's forever 2002
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jackeroffer
from Aruba on 2008-02-03 16:05 [#02171309]
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i think watmm and xltronic suck , i cant be the only one surely
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SlipDrinkMats
from Thanks (Bhutan) on 2008-02-03 16:15 [#02171314]
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i am both a watmm and xltronic poster
i think watmm and xltronic suck , i cant be the only one surely
Someone join up the fucking dots for me here.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-02-03 16:45 [#02171327]
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those in paralel Suns and Notwo are solemn moments.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-03 19:06 [#02171397]
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This guy SlipDrinkMats seriously needs to take his tits out his dog's rucksack.
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CS2x
from London (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-03 19:18 [#02171419]
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Apart from "Simmm", this is really rather fucking disappointing overall. I was just listening to "The Plc"; so there's a simple drum loop, some synth noodling, and then it just shifts into glitch-jam mode, and ends with those voices, leaving me feeling like I'd seen a big alcoholic white chocolate cake only to realise it was made of white pigeon shit as I moved closer to it.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-03 19:37 [#02171427]
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What a disappointment. If anything, this new album makes you appreciate those tracks off their earlier albums you never cared for.
Autechre aren't breaking any new grounds, they're lowering our standards. That's right. That's goddamn fucking right.
The best track on this album is only up to par with a track off another that I found least appealing on that release.
This is such a joke. Untilted never really hit me, but at least it had some tangible substance that could grow on you. I hear none of that on this and I'll have none of you saying "oh just give it time." I know straight off if an album needs time to grow.
And what's with the last two tracks? Usually they go out with a bang (lentic, reniform, sublimit), and if they don't go out with a bang, it's more of a nice calm ~fin~ feel.
The ending of Quarishit was a track as dismal and empty as the thought they put into releasing this crap.
Sick of being polite about it, beating around the bush, hating the tracks most others hate, loving the tracks most others love. I think I might maybe possibly could like a few tracks on this.
Fuck.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-03 19:38 [#02171429]
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it's just a load of cocks out rave-o-ution jam's. A tetrapleb with palsy could make an IDM album with higher mana points by just repeatedly smashing his face on a typewriter and whistling. Sean and Bob has clearly spent too much time downloading horizon on bit torrent this time around. modern music has advanced to 30 seconds to midnight on the doomsday clock.
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lumpenprol
from San Francisco on 2008-02-03 19:48 [#02171439]
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Complete agreement with Gwely Mernans. I'm usually a watmm poster but I think the response here to Ae's latest turd has been much freer from blind fanboyism. I don't like bashing or dwelling on things I don't like, but really, when you consider Ae's sterling track record, this is quite a disappointment. The production is superb, and as Rob said in the interview they've filled up the crevices with some nice sloshy liquidy sounds and metallic groans and the like. But there is very little music to be had. I've listened to it probably 10 times but I honestly have no desire to listen to it further. For me the standout tracks are Tankakern and Notwo, but I still don't think I'd put either on an Ae "best of" comp. I don't think Notwo is better than vletrmx21 as some are saying.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-03 19:57 [#02171443]
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Some are saying notwo is better than vletrmx?!
That's it.. I'm going to choke on my food if I keep reading.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-02-03 22:08 [#02171492]
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I go to sleep thinking about it and wake up wanting it. I can't remember the last time I liked music this much since ep7 times. It's better than confield maybe, except for cfern which is brilliant.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2008-02-03 22:10 [#02171495]
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So I didnt quite think Untilted was excellent. I think Quaristice is a better album, but I think Untilted is better in terms of song for song. Whatever that means. Anyways, I think they could do WAY more than what they left off for after Draft. Unfortunately, the quality of the albums seems to have decreased as their love for Elektron has increased. Take it for what it is worth. Regardless, Quaristice is good, but I am certain they could do better.
For those who think it is wank dog shit, could your best be better than their worst? Still doubt it... Needless to say, Autechre's piss takes are lightyears beyond most people's most dedicated effort. To be fair though, that doesnt mean a "get out jail free card" though. I'd still appreciate if they stepped up their game a bit.
Yeah, yeah.. it's for them and their process. I get it. If that is the case though, why even release an album then?
If you announce a tour WITH an album or you announce a tour WITH OUT an album, people are still going to go.
Once you release an album, you withgo a certain amount of ownership.. Those songs that meant something to you, whether it be the immediacy of process or your loving a certain piece of gear, will certainly mean something different to everyone else once they acquire them.
Post-structuralism.
Fact.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-02-03 22:14 [#02171496]
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In between your analyses have you shat up and listened to the album, thicko?
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2008-02-03 22:15 [#02171497]
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What I mean is, it may mean shit tons to the author, but it becomes public its meaning changes.
I think the criticisms of the fans are valid because I feel they are taking a non-objective and anthropological approach to their catalogue, that they may be unwilling to pay attention to.
Quaristice works real well on its own. In terms of their catalogue, if their releases are supposed to be "judged" hierarchially or cumulatively (which may be an internet influenced tendency to look at things), this album is inferior in some ways.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2008-02-03 22:16 [#02171498]
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yeah broseph. I'd say over 20 times at this point.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2008-02-03 22:28 [#02171503]
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That's depressing. I guess you can't hear anything through that wall of gibberish.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-03 22:33 [#02171505]
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For those who think it is wank dog shit, could your best be
better than their worst? Still doubt it...
gtfo.
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-03 22:35 [#02171507]
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It seems 2008-2009 monumental tit award has been decided.
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rad smiles
on 2008-02-03 22:38 [#02171508]
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can't we all just get along? what's wrong with you people? you're bringing this community down. let's make 2008 the year we all got along, ok?
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-03 23:32 [#02171512]
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Altibzz - a track any one of us can make with a decent free vsti.
The Plc - cygnus and futureimage collaborating for 10 minutes. worthy of being a fake leak.
IO - dying, realizing there is a hell, and one of the most popular tortures is hearing this retarded melody that was the lowlight of the untilted set for 1000 years. at least once the melody was gone it was an interesting listen.
plyPhon - if made into something longer with a few shifts, we'de be looking at a full track.
Perlence - plyPhon with a shitty melody.
SonDEremawe - what the fuck is this? sounds like the ending of a song which lingers on and eventually dies.
Simmm - great beginning, great ending, annoying middle.
paralel Suns - any unsigned ambient artist could have done this, they probably wouldn't even get a response back from the demo they sent.
Steels - Pro Radii's fetus, listen, you can hear Mama Radii's heartbeat. one word, it rhymes with abortion.
Tankakern - fantastic track.
Rale - simplistic beat with complex fx. heavy pounding track.
Fol3 - One of Richard Devine's roboturbations that never made it onto his discography because it was too windy.
fwzE - Fair bit of work went into the spacing of beats, acceptable as filler.
90101-5l-l - great track.
bnc Castl - annoying garbage. a joke that you don't laugh at. mucous plaque shat out in 2 minutes after a strong laxative.
Theswere - decent melody, nice sounds and a toilet bowl beat. enjoyable mood but nothing special. I started to hear this awesome sound in it, only to realize it was my chair creaking.
WNSN - awesome. so awesome.
chenc9 - promising start, only to lose it's zest and linger with one of the untilted set's flaccid, lethargic transitional moments. but wait, is that other track going to come in?! nope.
Notwo - deep moody piece, but like Altibzz, a track any one can make with a free vsti.
Outh9X - eerie mood, nothing special. Codec Scovill made this, then deleted it and replaced it with something much bet
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2008-02-03 23:33 [#02171513]
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-ter.
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cx
from Norway on 2008-02-03 23:42 [#02171517]
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dont give up yet, according to some people we will love quaristice around the time of their next album - in 2011 or whatever.
i guess we'll just have to wait.
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nailik
on 2008-02-03 23:55 [#02171518]
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Bassline in WNSN reminds me of Windowlicker.
Richard will be pleased.
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2008-02-04 00:02 [#02171519]
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you haven't been so critical with burial's untrue, which is supposed to be less detailed than any of ae's albums.
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cx
from Norway on 2008-02-04 00:09 [#02171521]
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yet burial is 'deeper'.. more moody, nice layers where everything counts.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2008-02-04 00:22 [#02171525]
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The Plc - cygnus and futureimage collaborating for 10 minutes. worthy of being a fake leak.
:D Thanks! :P
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2008-02-04 00:29 [#02171526]
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I think people just need to face the facts. Autechre peaked with Confield (or maybe Gantz Graf, that epic outro on cap.iv could be their top point).
Everything since then has been good but nothing close to Confield. Even Draft, which started this more "playful" trend in their music, which is an album I love to death, was a big step down from the promise of Confield.
I personally like Quaristice a LOT more than Untilted, but then again I didn't have my hopes up so high. Really, there's something to like on every track...
Those of you who are letting yourself get angry at this album-- well, you can always go back and listen to Confield. That is one album that will never age. It will never sound dated. It will always be there for you. And since you've already heard it, you can't overhype the shit out of it in your mind and be disappointed like you are with Quaristice.
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cx
from Norway on 2008-02-04 00:48 [#02171528]
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untilted is their most difficult album, of all their albums.
i dont think it is playful at all.. it sounds very distant.. quaristice is 1030328932x more playful.
but id rather have them make a new untilted than quaristice.. quari has less autechreness and more 'idm' and personally i didnt see ae as so much idm.. they had a completely different method.
im not sure what happened, but all the epics are gone, that special feeling of innovation and 'depth', its mostly all gone..
it was around chiastic slide/lp5 they started to lean towards the confield/draft era, and then now they wildly changed and went back into some mix of early 90s with modern production, it sort of lacks the stuff i loved in later albums.
my question is.. why? this /could/ have been the album where they accumulated everything into one epic, instead its like in places its like they didnt even make it (bnc castl ;p)
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