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well, im fucked in the head mate, i know. but if you give steels a spin then listen to that ridiculous bass drum that just randomly hits, and those totally random sounds on top, tell me, what the fuck is that? what the fuck kind of track is that compared to bine, uviol, pen expers, surripere, or whatever the fuck ever you want. i like the majority of this album, dont get me wrong, but something is off the way i see it. im not denying in any way that im just an idiot either, but at least i dont think this is even near the same quality of earlier stuff. |
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on the other hand i feel tank, io, plc, notwo and a bunch of others are great. im not disappointed with the album per se, but its not as serious or heavy or innovative as a whole. but bnc castl and steels (at least beginning) are imo just ridiculous. |
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Lupus, take your teabag out of glotch's kettle at once. He has had more than enough caffeine before the bed-time. |
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Wait, they made albums after Draft? I kid. I kid. I guess I've grown to appreciate Untilted. It's funny though, it seems like the conversations following the past two albums have suggested they are coming off as a cover band of themself. I'm not sure I agree, but it is surprising these criticisms arose once they dramatically changed their approach to how they were writing their music, their tools, etc. Back when Confield and Draft came out, it seemed the biggest complaint was they were too abstract or too esoteric. Nowadays, that sounds like a compliment to me. Whereas that was an opinion put forth from our lack of knowledge regarding what it was they were actually doing, it seems the criticism in 2008 could actually be founded on experience and fact. |
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i've got to correct my previous verdict: quaristice = auditory orgy i don't get why the general vibe surrounding this album (albeit only one day after the digital release) is negative. i'm abolutely digging the album so far. in my opinion, it's not ae at their most innovative, but i don't think they've ever been as creative within a single release. the flow of the album works so well. it's refreshing to listen to an album made up of short tracks. for the most part, they are very direct and concise. even though they don't last long, they're full of ideas and keep changing constantly, as if ae was targeting an 'a.d.d.' adience. unless you don't enjoy those two closing drone tracks, there isn't a single element on the album that drags on for too long. and the fact that the tracks are so short is what makes this album so effective; the tracks i like most, i can't get enough of and want to listen to them as soon as they've ended (kind of a 'roygbiv effect'). the ones i'm not liking as much, well i don't have to skip them since they only last a few minutes. so far, my favorites are: plyphon perlence steels fol3 wnsn least favorites: sonderemawe fwze bnc castl on top of that, there's still 68 minutes of 'new' material to discover in only a month, that's just insane. it's only been a month and already 2007 has been completely assfucked by 2008. |
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BTW - I like Quaristice a lot. |
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so jackeroffer, this machine drum, is that stand alone software? |
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tankakern is my favorite. someone admit me to the loonybin. |
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i love the opening track, so beautiful when i first played it in my room it sort of filled the room with color |
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the machine drum is hardware |
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That's a good description of it. It's a program that you can put a beer on. |
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if i rated every autechre release and judged it a day after it came out and only listened to it a few times, then i'd be a fan of shallow suckass pop music like britney, insync and menudo. |
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plus, i love that these tracks came from improving whether onstage or in the studio. thats what most bands do. they jam, shit flows out and they turn it into a proper song. this feels more human and organic than any realease before because thats exactly what it is. it must have been very refreshing for them to do what they always do but approach it from an entirely new angle. i applaud that. |
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who's to say that this idea wasnt in place before the long ass untilted tour. if that was the case, then they were giving you a whole new insight to their process. in a sense, you watched them create the skeleton of this record right before your eyes night after night. what a fucking concept. and not only do you get 20 tracks of a new record, you also will get 11 more tracks which i am sure will be just as good as this. so all in all, 31 tracks in my head after waiting 2.5 years? fuck me, i love it, well worth it . |
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i just watched a video on youtube of a guy jamming wiht that machine drum, looks pretty cool. i want one |
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who's to say that this idea wasnt in place before the long ass untilted tour. oh yeah this is in revelations. In some pictures you can see Rob caught in between his human and lizard forms. Hint: look at the pupils. When you see it you'll shit max msp patches. |
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huh? |
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I want an beautiful alien album of Simmm tracks. Then I will be happy and will not have to commit suicide. |
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oh sorry man I thought you knew about the |
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At the beggining all Autechre's albums feel like a jam to me, but I've learned to accept that. I'm sure that the highly praised logic and fluidity that you hear in Confield and Draft are just the effect of getting to know the album. I don't think Autechre have ever been the masters of concept albums or longer forms in general. I'm aware that I might be the only one to think so, but I AM RIGHT!!! Jeez, anyone remembers those clumsy transitions between parts of tracks on Untilted? If they feel right and LOGICAL to you,you really need some more jazz in your everyday diet. They were just shorter tracks glued skillfully together,maybe slightly modified in some aspects to better suit one another. And just to clarify, I'd never rate any post-Confield release below 8/10. My preferences as to which one is the best change, but Confield was simply the beginning of a giant. What was before isn't worth more than the Analords to me (at the beginning I wanted to use a comparison with Clark, but that would be just wrong). cx: After putting on the phones, I admit that Tankakern is very very good. |
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Hmmmmm, closer listening helps to appretiate fol3 a bit. Nothing can justify Steels though, it makes me feel more blatantly cheated than the first half of LCC. |
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one day i'll discover why i love steels so much |
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Don't worry, I don't mind bnc Castl at all, though I agree it's most likely a joke. |
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Yo hey cx you used the exact same arguments in the Untitled thread. |
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I'm sick of lighthearted, retro, acid, jokey, goofy, dancey pus-ridden fuckrat tracks. There's enough, well, there's 99.9% of music for that. It's like these Intelligent Dancing Music superstars are embarassed by the self-indulgent hyper werid wonderments of 1999-2003. Squarepusher gave us "Hello Everything", Aphex Twin went all acid and gave us "Analord", BoC dived into the lands of ultra-tameness with TCH, and the ever amazing Clark man went into straight up, fucking majorly boring stomping rave territory. None of which has anything to do with the new AE, which I have not listened to enough of to say whether it is "retro", or whatever pointless point I'm dribbling... etc. |
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I want some BRAIN FOOD. It's time to convert to prog rock. Our men have become bored being interesting and want to make simple analog acid wank. |
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i'm listening it now after reading about, can't say if its a joke or not but its not my cup of tea, too. this album seems quite ecleptic to my ears, simply i cannot describe with words the moltitude of feelings i'm getting from it cos they're pretty well mixed.. guess i'm just enjoying this more than any stuff i've heard recently, people have different views to see things but ya know, semplifying does not automatically mean less good. i'm not good with words, i think their music speak more than any. |
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and i'm repetitive, too. |
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I listened to AFX classics tonight. Amazing gritty stuff. |
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That's almost word by word what a friend of mine who got me into electronica was saying half a year ago. He refused to be bothered anymore and has been on a strict jazz/classical diet since. Sad times, we're losing our most valuable sons. |
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i like that part where its like schhhheeeeewww |
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that part was definitely a joke |
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ae can never just drive by a car accident because they know - THEY KNOW - they're the only ones who can help. Because it's like, it's just, pewpewpew, zchiiiing! |
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eloel, i cried |
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waffles or what pls bryce.berny@gmail.com |
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you have a good point, i just dont see what it is. |
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oh horsey, you crack me up. |
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I like the track 90101-51 BNC castl makes me laugh |
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you are all SP's! |
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Square Pushers? |
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well, it DOES make you look like an idiot combined with: "well theres no doubt its a 10/10 for me. steels really kicks ass currently" and later: "but if you give steels a spin then listen to that ridiculous bass drum that just randomly hits, and those totally random sounds on top, tell me, what the fuck is that?" finally the kind of discussion i was looking forward to... |
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yeah its the same shit over and over. i get a first impression and everythings great, then i go back to draft and things change. this also happened with untilted but sadly that album didnt grow THAT much on me still. regardless my heads chaos so |
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chiastic slide is the best, #4 |
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BNC makes me smile |
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WOOP WOO-WOOP |
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you are of the body WOO-WOOP! |
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It's alright. |
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My friends review: "i dont get how people were so positive about it. there were moments of such minimal whateverness. like listen to steels. it sounds like a 20% complete song. its dead. some bass in the background that doesnt do anything. to me this one was one of the worst albums theyve ever made i swear. that song sounds like it was shat out in 5 minutes. Outh9X sounded like it could have become epic when that lush air started coming from the background, but then the song just went nowhere. there was like 3 minutes of nothing in there. WNSN was a bit catchy and more serious, but didnt do anything special. Notwo was just ambience but it sounded good. chenc9 was like a mediocre tuss song. bnc castl was catchy and could be good for like some retarded skit, but it was still something that could shit out in 2 minutes Thewere was pretty good because it actually had some high fidelity sounds and a catchy melody. fwzE was more of that tweedly toodly woodly kiddy mood shit which i dont like rale was okay, but still kind of boring. Tankekern had a cool atmosphere and was pretty good but it was still too minimal. could have done more with it. Steels was poop. SonDEremawe was just whatever, short repetitive nothing. plyPhon started sounding like it was gonna be awesome but then just got all disjointed and whatever and didnt progress. IO started out like annoying discordant shit but the beats for the last minute were good lol i honestly think this album sounded way deader and more minimal boring and disjointed than untilted and i honestly cant comprehend these peoples positive feedback. its like they must hear a completely different song than i do, i dont even feel like im being super critical" |
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fuck man, its autechre just shutup and if you like the craziness then cool. if you dont like all the mind pulling then wait a few years and youll catch on to something. |
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minimal "me and my friends all listen to electronic music, but we don't really talk about it, it sort of undermines it when you talk about it.." |
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