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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:56 [#00272898]
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because a) you gave a fake email address and removed it when you were told to do so b)richard is too much of a nice guy to act like a twat
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:56 [#00272900]
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quivv: so if u actually HAVE stopped making music, wot r u gonna do now?
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:58 [#00272906]
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ben, you dont know me, you say you met me, where? i dont recall you, your just another face mate
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:59 [#00272907]
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i have to work dude, at a local butchers at the moment, I hope to get an office job though, i have massive debts from years of doing music
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 17:00 [#00272908]
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ok, i didnt read all the posts, cause there are too many, but here is my view
quivvlm, you're a fundamentalist... and thats bad.
im a musician.... i am goin to a music college. it is definatly my carrer.
i dont care if people download my stuff.
because i know if they like it, then they will buy it.
end of story
if they dont buy, then they really dont like it. so why would i want them to buy it?
most likely, im gonna have to have various jobs, shit jobs at that..
but as musicians, we accept this. its a running joke at my school, how poor we will be.
if i want to make money, ill sell my music to an ad, or something... but i am fully aware that IDM is not a money maker... but i dont care, i love it. of course it would be great to make my living off of my music... but thats very idealistic... even people in pop genres usually cant do that
dont blame your lack of sales on the net.
truely... it shows the lack of talent on your part. it sounds harsh, but its true. sorry
any musician, even before mp3, only really made money from gigs, and selling it to commericals etc.
and that whole 1 dollar thing... well, sometimes yes, but not if you get well known and renegotiate your contract
so basicaly... the point is...
mp3s are good, cause they allow people to get access to an underground music culture
stop saying how its ruining your carrer you are making excusses to shift the blame from you to something else
-Zeus
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:00 [#00272910]
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ok then, get on icq and i'll ask you a question to see if it is you
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:01 [#00272911]
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what was the last straw, that made u throw it all in?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 17:01 [#00272912]
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never mind, he's not interested in other opnions.
i agree with you on all accounts :)
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-18 17:02 [#00272915]
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can somebody sum up whats been happening in these 250+ posts ????
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:03 [#00272916]
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having zero money, having my house repossed, having no food, or money to buy clothes and go out
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:03 [#00272918]
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get lost loser
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:03 [#00272919]
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nothing.... quivv against the world of mp3s!
...the war wages on...
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-18 17:04 [#00272923]
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things look kinda heated in here.....
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:04 [#00272925]
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and that all happened at the same time?
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:05 [#00272926]
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u just gotta stay open-minded...
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:06 [#00272929]
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yep, within 3 months, i love music, and i guess some of you guys get a kick of of my music, but im sick of being poor
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:07 [#00272932]
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thanks dude, its nice to have some support here :D
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:08 [#00272935]
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no offence, but I've never heard ur music.
just wondering, how do u still hav an internet connection? is that not a luxury that u cud do without?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 17:08 [#00272936]
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maybe you should try picking up a guitar and write about your nasty circumstances. cause the singer-songwriter thing is going to be big again!
;)
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 17:08 [#00272937]
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oohhh slam
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:09 [#00272938]
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at the moment I'm not supporting anyone, just absorbing as much info as possible, so that i can make my mind up.
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 17:09 [#00272939]
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in addition... so one who has no money, sure has alot of free time to surf this site and post topics...
you could be out making money, or more music etc..
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:10 [#00272941]
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thanks dudes, ciaou!
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:10 [#00272942]
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I think you just proved you are bullshitting. if you were happy about staying you were RD, you'd be happy to verify it for the posters
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:11 [#00272944]
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(saying ^)
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 17:11 [#00272945]
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quivvuulum: if you were really that poor you wouldn't be using the internet right now. . . you'd be doing everything you could to make money.
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:14 [#00272949]
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it doesnt matter if he's RD or not, we're all equal. Just forget about that, and hear each other out.
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Aaladorn
from Hull (United States) on 2002-06-18 17:16 [#00272951]
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This is the worst thread ever, I don't even want to continue reading it(I'm only about halfway into it), you people make me too sick.
I agree with quivvuulum (even though he IS slightly trolling, but you people wouldn't listen anyway, so what the fuck?) and the other guy...
And skodt probably made the best post on this topic
You people wouldn't buy the cds anyway, so it's a worthless cause.
I won't even begin to express my feelings on this issue.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:17 [#00272953]
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I no it doesn't matter, what mattered was he was lying....I did hear his argument and happened not to agree
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 17:19 [#00272954]
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i buy every cd i like, and i delete every mp3 i dont
why else would i keep it?
i heard BoC via mp3. now i have all there albums, and several harder to find things.
heard amon tobin via mp3... now i have every cd by him except 2
autechre... mp3... now i got 3 of thier cds
squarepusher mp3.... all of his cds, but ONE
need i go on?
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:19 [#00272955]
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"You people wouldn't buy the cds anyway, so it's a worthless
cause."
How do you know I don't buy the cd's? Its obvious you haven't read the opinions of people in this thread
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:19 [#00272957]
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you are the liar mate, jealous of me are you? well you dont need to be, im broke because of MP3s
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:20 [#00272958]
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how am *I* a liar exactly?
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Narkotic
from United States on 2002-06-18 17:20 [#00272959]
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ok phobia... is this guy the real thing or not?
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:20 [#00272960]
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ben, you are a music thief like most people here, thats far worse than being a liar (which im not btw)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:21 [#00272962]
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Aaladorn: I dont think you've been listening to anyone else.
People DO buy the CDs...
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:21 [#00272963]
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what the fuck does that matter? we are talking about mp3s not people, are you a fake, i mean is that your picture?
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:22 [#00272964]
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you are a thief
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-06-18 17:22 [#00272965]
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Well, quivvuulum last notice. Change your email address to the real one.
Otherwise i have to remove your account. I was patient and friendly enough I think.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:23 [#00272967]
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"ben, you are a music thief like most people here, thats far
worse than being a liar (which im not btw)"
no, I buy the cd's, end of story
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-06-18 17:23 [#00272968]
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Also stop trolling people!
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:23 [#00272969]
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check it dude
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uzim
on 2002-06-18 17:23 [#00272971]
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lol... choose your side everyone? ^^
no, really... some people are caricatural... :)
mp3s are a great way to discover artists, and don't say that all people downloading mp3s are doing this in order to get music for free without paying cds. i do buy a lot more of cds since i use file sharing, and i'm far from being the only one.
this said, some people are actually totally "stealing" music and don't buy cds, only download mp3s. that's a fact. :)
but some people would make believe the music industry's in a bankrupt... come on... (do capitalism prevent them from thinking?) ;)
(just give one example of an artist which stopped making music because of mp3s...)
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:24 [#00272972]
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we are having a discussion dude, since when was that classed as trolling?
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:25 [#00272974]
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this board supports illegal trading of mp3s, but stifles argument, yeah fuck you all, you are all worthless scum, bye
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:25 [#00272976]
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quivvuulum:how do u afford to go on the internet?
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Zeus
from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 17:26 [#00272977]
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dude
shut up
you are really getting old
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tunemx
from Budapest (Hungary) on 2002-06-18 17:26 [#00272978]
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Calling others a thief is not a very nice discussion man.
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uzim
on 2002-06-18 17:27 [#00272979]
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...did he say "bye?"
*glimpse of hope* ;)
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 17:28 [#00272980]
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"yeah fuck you all, you are all worthless scum"
i dont think ur going to get any support with that lovely reply
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