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offline skodt from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 18:10 [#00273067]
Points: 672 Status: Regular



thanks dude!


 

offline Narkotic from United States on 2002-06-18 18:10 [#00273068]
Points: 667 Status: Regular



man if your calling this music IDM to begin with, I don't
even know why i'm argueing with you.

skodt - the Q guy has some good opinions, but when he
started going off and trying to belittle us with his "name
calling" and trying to front himself as richard devine he
lost all of my respect to begin with.


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 18:10 [#00273069]
Points: 1027 Status: Regular



WHAT ABOUT MIX CD'S? And I don't mean dj mixes. . . just
cd's you make with a whole bunch of different artists and
songs. I download all of that material.

And dj's don't have much to worry about, at least. It's
quite awkward to go about downloading a dj mix, and I've
never done it.

Ever since I got my cd burner last year in April I've only
downloaded and burned 6 albums, and they're not all from the
same artist or anything; they are ones that I cannot find on
stores and cost way too much to buy online.

And occasionally I do burn dj mixes that I find at the
library that I would not normally spend money on (Paul
Oakenfold anyone?), but like I said, that's because I would
never waste my hard-earned money on anything like that
anyway.

Some dj's and artists, like John Digweed and Aphex Twin, I
will never burn material from, although both are already
very rich and do not even need income from cd's/dj mix cds
anymore. . .


 

offline Phatbert 000 from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-06-18 18:11 [#00273074]
Points: 1618 Status: Lurker



yeah, well done Skodt for laying the facts down on the
table. I agree with you as well. You haven't provoked any of
the hate that far too many of the other posts in this thread
have.

respect.


 

offline Aaladorn from Hull (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:14 [#00273079]
Points: 123 Status: Lurker



"man if your calling this music IDM to begin with, I don't
even know why i'm argueing with you."

What do you mean? I was just saying that they don't have
much Intelligent Dance Music (a popular term given to music
such as Aphex Twin, Squarepusher, Bogdan Raczynski, and
others).


 

offline VampireAngel from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2002-06-18 18:14 [#00273081]
Points: 1746 Status: Lurker | Followup to Deathsmith: #00273069 | Show recordbag



Can't compare what John Digweed,Paul Oakenfold and the rest
of the "Trance/extacy gang" does...They just spin
music,that's it...When RDJ is Djing,then,that's another
story,he does a bunch of his stuff,and friends like
[]pusher,AE,etc.....They're way different in what they
do........


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:15 [#00273084]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



so, has anyone read my posts?

or do you just totally not care about my opinions...

*twiddles thumbs*


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 18:15 [#00273085]
Points: 1027 Status: Regular



Don't diss John Digweed, d00d. . . he's the best dj ever, in
the entire world.


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 18:16 [#00273086]
Points: 1027 Status: Regular



And for god sakes John Digweed is NOT trance!!! He is most
certainly progressive house, which is the least cheesiest
electronica sub-genre there is!


 

offline skodt from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 18:17 [#00273088]
Points: 672 Status: Regular



deathsmith: everyone makes mixed cds man.
or tapes, whatever.
don' t think it hurts things and that's the point.
d/ling album's is what we are speaking of here.
also, it doesn't matter how rich someone is, you treat them
with as much respect as any individual.

narkotic: he did fall off the boat a little there, but as
someone stated, if you back a dog into a corner it's gonna
bite. most people weren't listening to the essence of his
statement, and he kept trying, but after a bit he did get
kind mangy.
most people would have responded in a like fashion.
i think people understand now, it's too bad it had to come
off as a quarrel though.


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:19 [#00273091]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



well, i agree with you zeus

i find your opinion to be insightful

thanks for posting!


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 18:20 [#00273092]
Points: 1027 Status: Regular



Hey Zeus is that FSOL or Orbital in your avatar? . .. I've
seen that pic before but I forget which of those two
artist's it is.


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:20 [#00273093]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular | Followup to tunemx: #00273046



small labels are run for enthusiasts at litttle profit -
majors are run by big corporations most small labels have 50
50 deals 50 for the artist 50 for the label so ...the drop
in sales from cd burning /file sharing fucks wit h the small
labels more - everyone is talking about the artists here but
artists are supported by labels - and the guys who run the
labels ain't multi million fat cats


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:22 [#00273096]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



acctually... i found it on some website... its a stock pic
or something...

no releation to music


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 18:23 [#00273098]
Points: 1027 Status: Regular



Hmm well it looks like that is Phil and Paul Hartnoll. . .


 

offline VampireAngel from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2002-06-18 18:23 [#00273099]
Points: 1746 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zeus: #00273084 | Show recordbag



I had made an opinion based on one of yours my phriend...Can
I just ask you,how do I look for your stuph in
Soulseek????I'm right now there and can't seem to found you
maaan.. :(


 

offline Spookyluke from United States on 2002-06-18 18:23 [#00273100]
Points: 1955 Status: Lurker



I think this whole topic got blown way out of proportion!
Downloading is good, because it gives people a chance to
hear the music.
Routintely downloading things just because one doesn't want
to purchase them, however, is a bit dishonest, but still not
wrong.


 

offline wildrover from springfield (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:24 [#00273101]
Points: 472 Status: Lurker



as far as computers go, i'm not around them except at work,
with video editing and checking e-mails. i don't claim to
know a lot about them what i do know usaully makes them
crash, repeatedly, ok they scare me alright, i'm like a
monkey trying to use a toaster oven.
i will say that i do not download a lot of music of the
net for the reasons some of you have been giving, it's
illegal plain and simple. artists are already exploited by
the record companies, now you the comsumer wants to shxt on
his chest? come on, you say that you buy the CD after you've
downloaded the songs to see if you like the artist, bull!
not to say i haven't downloaded stuff before, i have one mix
CD which defineatly doesn't sound as good as a real CD, but
those of you who do this crap all the time are common
criminals!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:24 [#00273104]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



im in the aphextwin.nu chat room

my name is DjZeus


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:28 [#00273106]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker



hello dj zeus, i have dled your music before, and i like it


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:29 [#00273107]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



ip osted this yesterday in a separate topic but obviously no
one read it :
mike paradinas has some interesting things to say here about
the subject in this planet mu profile
http://www.spittoonsandsabres.com/version2/main.html go to
planet mu profile


 

offline Phatbert 000 from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-06-18 18:29 [#00273108]
Points: 1618 Status: Lurker



hey you're back on quiv, did you check out that site?


 

offline VampireAngel from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2002-06-18 18:30 [#00273109]
Points: 1746 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zeus: #00273104 | Show recordbag



Thanx and sorry for asking you and everybody questions on
Soulseek but I'm very new to that system ok...Just
dpownloaded 2 days ago and foun it quite
interesting,hopefully this one lasts for long,because love
what it stands for,electronic music lovers,it's almost
exclusive for us........:)


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:30 [#00273110]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker



when did you download my music?

its only been up for about 12 hours... and i dont see your
name on the download list...


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:30 [#00273111]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker



skodt is the true voice of r3ason here, good on ya mate!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:31 [#00273114]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to VampireAngel: #00273109



whats your name on soulseek?


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:31 [#00273115]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker



speaking of reason, reason 2.0 is out today, im gonna buy it
if i can get hold of some money ;)


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:32 [#00273117]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phatbert 000: #00273108



not yet dude, was it www.bumpy.com or something, ill check
it out now


 

offline Deathsmith from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 18:32 [#00273118]
Points: 1027 Status: Regular



Don't listen to Skodt he's a guitar-playing
stormtrooper/jedi.


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:33 [#00273119]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zeus: #00273110



zeus, from joyrex.coms music board (are you "zeus daughter"
?)


 

offline Phatbert 000 from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-06-18 18:33 [#00273120]
Points: 1618 Status: Lurker



www.pumpaudio.com

for all i know, bumpy.com could be a porn site.


 

offline astrid-gil-botn from Londinium (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:33 [#00273121]
Points: 1649 Status: Regular



you should read it...
http://www.spittoonsandsabres.com/version2/docs/feat/planet
_mu/planet_mu.html instead of assuming stuff - interesting


 

offline VampireAngel from San Juan (Cuntland) (Puerto Rico) on 2002-06-18 18:33 [#00273122]
Points: 1746 Status: Lurker | Followup to Zeus: #00273114 | Show recordbag



Is this one but in spanish......Angel_Vampiro


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:34 [#00273123]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phatbert 000: #00273120



thanks dude


 

offline Phatbert 000 from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-06-18 18:35 [#00273125]
Points: 1618 Status: Lurker



yeah that article's very interesting, Mike gives a lot of
insight into the drastic situation at the moment

AND...

The next 20 or so Planet µ releases coming up...


 

offline skodt from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 18:38 [#00273127]
Points: 672 Status: Regular



yeah, and if you could only see the face i'm wearing under
that mask!
q it's
pumpaudio.com
i can't wait to get reason 2!
i need some cash though too.


 

offline Phatbert 000 from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-06-18 18:39 [#00273129]
Points: 1618 Status: Lurker



jesus reason 2 looks fucking ace but I doubt it'll run on my
233MHz iMac. I'm amazed that Reason 1 runs on it at all.


 

offline skodt from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 18:39 [#00273130]
Points: 672 Status: Regular



woops! i'm a slow typer!
it's this fuhkin clone trooper mask!
i can't see anything!


 

offline skodt from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 18:40 [#00273131]
Points: 672 Status: Regular



time to start a new thread!
REASON 2!


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:42 [#00273134]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker




from planet mu

File sharing seems rather bad for small labels but then
electronic music labels are some of the most downloaded on
the internet – even though home taping didn’t kill music
this seems like something different –
Well, our sales are down... I'm sure Rephlex and Warp's are
too. It must be at least 50% due to downloading mp3s, it
might not be - who can tell?
It could just be there are less people buying cds generally
and electronic music is just unsexy. But the low sales mean
we can't release much vinyl anymore because it loses money
unless we sell over, say 1500 for a 12" or 3000 for an album
(2LP) just for that format - and not many releases sell that
much these days. I was talking to my man Mark Melton (who
used to work for GPR in early 90s, you know - Black Dog,
Beaumont Hannant, Luke Slater etc.) and he was saying that
whatever album he released in 92-95 was guaranteed to sell
10,000 - 15,000 minimum or at least 5000 - 7000 for a 12"
single and when they started to sell only 3000 for one of
their 12"s they were in trouble... so when the UK gets true
file sharing capabilities (beyond 40 mins on a phone for an
mp3 at 128k) then we'll all be in trouble.



 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:42 [#00273135]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker | Followup to skodt: #00273131



cool guy!


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:43 [#00273137]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phatbert 000: #00273129



theyve improved the code dude, so its faster than version
1.0


 

offline Phatbert 000 from Augsburg (Germany) on 2002-06-18 18:45 [#00273141]
Points: 1618 Status: Lurker



woah. The one thing that I REALLY wanted is the detachable
sequencer, that's a godsend!


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:47 [#00273142]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker | Followup to Phatbert 000: #00273141



check the malstrom synth dude (download the demo) it kick
the ass off other soft synths


 

offline plugexpert from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 18:49 [#00273148]
Points: 1073 Status: Lurker



quivvuulum ,......

how do U feel about piracy in general,.do U feel the same
way about audio-software hacks as U do about Mp3z?

I bet 99.9% of the underpayed artists use hacks which they
didn't pay for. Cheating softwarehouses out of money,.etc
etc blah blah.



 

offline skodt from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 18:50 [#00273152]
Points: 672 Status: Regular



mike is real nice!
i also talked with attila about sending planet µ some of my
material, and was supposed to meet him at a club the other
night.
place was sold out and packed though, so i didn't get to see
him.
hopefully mike will respond to my material i sent in the
mail.
i would love to get some of this stuff out!


 

offline Zeus from San Francisco (United States) on 2002-06-18 18:50 [#00273153]
Points: 14042 Status: Lurker | Followup to quivvuulum: #00273119



nope, thats not me...

im just zeus

and ive only put my songs on the net in the last 12 hours


 

offline quivvuulum from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 18:50 [#00273155]
Points: 289 Status: Lurker | Followup to plugexpert: #00273148



no, i buy all my software


 

offline skodt from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 18:51 [#00273158]
Points: 672 Status: Regular



plug: but if you aren't making money off of it and then you
start would you buy the real licensed version?
if you didn't make any money and you are just tinkering for
yrself in yr basement does it really matter?
the good ol' question of ethics!


 

offline plugexpert from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 18:54 [#00273165]
Points: 1073 Status: Lurker



personally I have no soul! So I don't give a damn wheter its
hacked/cracked or not.

Even if I was a milionaire I wouldn't pay for software
,thats in reach with a few left mouse clicks on the net .

I'm evil :-(


 


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