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well the stuff that I download i wud probably never have even heard before if it wasnt for someone mentioning it to me, and me downloading it. My musical knowledge of smaller artists wud be almost none. I know people who download whole albums and burn them, and i frown upon that - u've got to remember that the artist mite not have even had that "fan" if it wasnt for file sharing. File Sharing must produce many more fans for an artist as it allows ppl to freely listen to their music, but without file sharing those potential fans wouldn't be there to start off with! |
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totally - my little brother downloads, say, ONE album by lagwagon, then he'll go out and BUY all of their albums! this is just an excuse by record companies to hike their prices up even more! just watch! |
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there's a difference in coming across directly and repeating the same message time and again :) |
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quivvuulum - perhaps you missed the two dozen times people have said that they buy MORE IDM since P2P came about? maybe you only read what you want to? |
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Well they better watch out because monopoly capitalism takes no prisoners. In a recession they'll be swallowed by the majors. BTW I don't smoke weed. In fact I don't download music as I can't even afford a PC at home. I spend a lot of money on music, money I can ill afford. I've spent thousands and thousands on music in my short life and all that money has gone into the pockets of the corps and artists. |
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most people who put music on MP3.com do it out of love of music. they are not professionals, and you can hear that in the music, its amateur. Im not saying theres anything wrong with that, its just a hobby. To make good music, there is no short cut, it takes time and devotion, full-time not part-time |
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Hehe, I wouldn't have guessed :) |
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DRuKQS is worth MY FUCKING LAST BOTTOM DOLLAR!!!!! Its one of the best albums ever for heavens sake!!! |
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yeah but thats not true, thats made up by guilty people |
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quivs a troll...not an artist...but this has been a good thread... skodt...what a funny little man... |
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well said archrival, people pay 20 dollars for a pizza but are loathe to buy CDs which feed their SOUL |
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well, he was made to remove the fake email address and I haven't noticed any more shit about 'I am reichard devine!!!' and we've been tell you on and on and on quiv, WE buy MORE IDM albums BECAUSE of p2p, and we possibly wouldn't buy ANY if mp3 haden't come along |
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quivvulum, I'm not havin a go at u, what wud u say to someone who wanted to hear some of ur work? |
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arguing for aguing's sake is nice once in a while :) |
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i dont understand you, this is a discussion, heated at times but whats wrong with that, and why do you call me a troll? |
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"well said archrival, people pay 20 dollars for a pizza but are loathe to buy CDs which feed their SOUL" ahahah, thats fucking hipocritical! then let the artists music feed their soul if you feel that way! |
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im not talking about me, im talking generally, my music has nothing to do with it |
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so you're calling us all liars now? cute |
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"why do you call me a troll?" "why do you call me a troll?" "why do you call me a troll?" what's with the shit about you being devine then?! is that not reason enough? We wouldn't be like this probably if we haden't had such trolls problems on the board |
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tell me how its hipocritical, i cant quite see that |
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but ur an "artist"... or if u r, wot wud u say? |
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Richard.......Richard D.......Devine ? |
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because you've been going on about how artists shouldn't be working on an empty stomach...so its ok for the listener to but not the artist? please.. |
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quiv...I just think you don't read people replies or if you do then you just pick on a bit you can attack...fair enough, if thats where your brain is...just makes you appear like a fool but if that's your style then who am I to try and make ya change... like I said, it's been a good thread...reagardless... |
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sorry i dont understand what you mean |
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divine comedy, more like it |
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If you accept the free market then if your music was any good you'd be selling loads and making a fortune. As it is, you're not so your music must suck. I feel sorry for you. Take up another hobby. Ever tried stamp collecting? It might be more conducive to your anal nature. |
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you are the troll mate, ive no idea what you are talking about |
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you know, when people want to hear my music, i feel happy - i am very glad that i have musical talent and can make my music. stop going on about "professional" musicians, please - there is no point there: music is music - people who don't get paid for making music make music just as good as those who do, however pitiful the amount is... there is no hierarchy in music - only a pathetic human would impose such a hierarchy and distinction my music is magick and no-one paid me to make it! |
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and about wot u said about amateur music... i used to think that music was so good because anyone cud make it... or am i being old fashioned? Weren't ALL artists "amateurs" until they were spotted by someone? |
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20 dollars for a pizza, thats LUXURY food, if you hadnt noticed, like music is a luxury or dope or grass, whatever you do to make your stay on earth bearable |
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Yeah man, i hope ive been dissed by Richard D James at least, and not some second rate IDM Artist ! ..........LOL ! |
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jand, this thread is 230 messages long, sorry if i cant counter every argument, im trying my best mate ;D |
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"you are the troll mate, ive no idea what you are talking about" Then why yesterday did you say you were Richard Devine? Why yesterday did you have your email address as rdevine@warprecords.com? and then when it's tested by the crew, it bounces....then you get rid of it! |
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who said anything about pizza? i only wish i could afford pizza! but i'm struggling electronic musician and someone keeps trading my mp3s on soulseek (namely, me) and its not fair! why should i have to work like other people!? i'm SPECIAL!! give me my dues!! i'm off to take my niece and nephew out now - please feel free to character assassinate me |
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would you trust an amateur doctor ? |
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its the same for many IDM artists, and you dont know my music so there ! |
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have a good time dude! No hard feelings heh? |
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if it is mr devine then howdie i like your lipswitch ep :) and my feeling that warp artists are full of themselves isn't so strange anymore ;) |
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qu: you still fail to see the things from other point of view than business: "these artists are professionals", "their music is hard work, it takes 6 months of work to make an album". Hey!!! It takes other musician about an hour of improvising to prodice an album that lasts an hour. And it often sounds fantastic and as far out as any "IDM" thing you can come up with. You are still mixing marketi/ business terms with aesthetical/ musical ones. This is my last post for today. Over and out. |
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very well put!! |
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shh man, whats wrong with you, cant you keep a fuckin secret, geezus! |
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I'm quite sure it is the same. Answer me this though: How is it that Britney Spears is loaded and you aren't? People can dowload her music also so how come you're broke? |
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no, but i wud trust an amateur artist... marlowe or teapot for example! |
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thanks Meho...you've been a real voice of reason on this thread... |
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anyway, youve all shown how immature you are (apart from a few dudes!) so maybe youll understand when youve grown up a little# :D PEACE ! |
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"whats wrong with you, cant you keep a fuckin secret, geezus!" well sorry if i'm wrong, but you posted this yesterday anyway, so I don't see how I could be accused of not keeping a secret |
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because all artists earn a percentage of what is theoretically possible, its just her theoretical salary is astronomical |
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LOOK, I LOVE y'all, peace 2 YA just show the artists you love a lil respect dudes and duderinas |
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Theoretical salary? What the fuck is that? She sells a shit load of CDs despite downloading, you however sell none. The fact that she still sells loads also renders your argument redundant. Unless you can retort without telling me to grow up of course. Come on, you can do it. |
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