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amazing maze max patch: which composes itself at the moment of its sounding which is not merely a reproduction of a pre-fabricated notation which is capable of reacting on exterior influences which exhibits infinite temporal expansion which never repeats itself. Amazing Maze is represented by a computer program which generates music by manipulating sampled instrumental sounds according to certain compositional strategies that are carried out in different structure generators. Each generator synthesizes its own characteristic sound world. im sure it was used for 'bnc castl', but who cares, i suppose it's still art, but any of us could of made that track. |
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thanks man, it's all water under the bridge now. |
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The only trouble I have with this album, and really most of their records, is the hard time I have reconciling the playful, inventive, complex, detailed, nimble, deft music with the image of the two brutal, thuggish looking individuals that create it. The type of guys you'd find in a pub glaring at you, waiting for you to make eye contact to use as a pretext to battering you. The type of guys giving the shop owner grief in an off license, the sort of men you find asleep in the bookies. It's just not right. Are the those two blokes really Autechre? |
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hehehe yeah. Sean especially has the Begbie glare and looks like he could throw a wicked punch. |
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my guess is their gf's make music, but you know, it's looks that sells. |
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you have no idea what you're talking about. |
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I have so much zero interest in this it's not even funny, it's klaustastisch. If life goes ok I hope I'll never listen a track from this album. |
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It's just a series of live Autechre jams, innit. Blegh. :-) |
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*Tracks like Simm and fwzE of course |
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ahh...first listen and well..there are two good tracks. thats the only nice thing i can say about it now. I'm sure after future listens i'll change my mind but...whens the new Tuss or Aphex album coming out already? |
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i mean a real 808 bassdrum, in a simple 4/4/ pattern, at 90bpm. if a track is worse than that then it is bad. if it's better than that it is good. |
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last nice last track nice ambient i like |
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Only one way to find out: |
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I hope they didn't actually pay the designers republic for the "artwork" |
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i think the artwork is their best yet. |
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was the inspiration for the art. |
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hahah ill have to give that onther read whoa! you still have a recycle avatar, noice Autechre, when is the fallow up coming- |
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this thread robbed the official thread of its destiny to hit 2000 |
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fleetmouse you have been robbed! Litigate my friend, litigate. |
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the day i listen to this album is the day the item arrives in the post and i open the package, and insert the discs into my fwzE |
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Alas, my manservant failed to trade-mark the quadrilateral figure and shall be dealt with severely. |
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The album actually sounds quite "fun" and "happy". Maybe they are mellowing with age. |
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That bastard! His negation of legal registeration with respect to your exclusive use of rectilinear polygons subverts the very essence of commercial artistry! |
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second half is better than the first. |
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I don't really like it. Paralel suns was great, Io reminded me of a cheap circus although it had a cool creepy voice. WNSN is the best track, but Quaristice as a whole bores me, even during the 1st listen it bored me. An average album with a small handful of cool moments imo. The worst part for me is I know there's nothing beneath the surface to discover unlike previous albums. |
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You know, it's pretty good but I still prefer the Radiohead album. Glad I picked up the special edition CD yesterday whilst I could! Rock on. |
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In Rainbows is more boring than even Quar to me. Maybe I'm bored with music, or a boring man, or both. Perhaps neither. |
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veredict is scary hope good luck and dont fall into crack scene* |
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Thanks mate, you too. Pray for me. |
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Well I'm going to listen to the free flac download of this I just got and see if it makes it sound better than 'In Rainbows'. I guess the vinyl of this might be better, I suppose. |
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Never in a million years will this album be within my financial grasp. Not if they had fifty bnc castles and a thousand simmms. And played at the bang face weekender. |
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i've been listening back and forth between draft, confield and quaristice, and yeah, it has begun to become apparent to me that there is a lot "more" in the earlier albums. all around they sound heavier(which i like), sound more alien and not so 'idm' type. i don't know exactly how to explain it, but it sounds like an idm album where they mess around with effects. i put on uviol and was amazed at the change in direction. i dunno i guess quari doesn't sound as.. innovative or even just 'deep' as ALL their other albums. it's still a great idm album, with a nice shock value, but is it a great AUTECHRE album? guess i will need to give it more time. |
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Seems like Ae got at least one fan back. I'm really enjoying this more accessible stuff! |
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some more thoughts: 1.) Quaristice is a great album. Is it their best? I'm not sure yet. I keep going back to the barcode interview, which obviously sheds light on the album in a somewhat incriminating way... CX, I agree with you to a certain degree. I won't say this is "thrown" together, as there is a sense of immediacy to the album that is somewhat more violent (raw?) than last albums and is quite refreshing in a lot of ways. However, I'm not sure it's best to say it's lacking the maturity of past albums, but certainly seems like this album is an after thought, as opposed to a deliberate and concentrated effort from the outset. 2.) Is the production for tracks like Simmm, fwzE, and chenc9 different than the other songs? I almost feel like they "wrote" these songs, while edited live arrangements in order to make the other "songs." 3.) I'm very curious about the second disc on the lmtd. edition version. I dont think it is within Autechre's nature to just compile a bunch of pisstakes and throw them into something that netted the label the equivalent of $75k USD. I think the second disc will have a deliberate purpose. How funny would it be if THAT was the real album and the 20 track album was their compiled "public face", reserving the real shit for the real fans? Doing the math, the second disc will be 5 minutes shorter than the actual release with almost half the number of tracks. Ultimately, this means we are getting longer versions of what we have heard, which is something I find myself wishing as I listen to this version of Quaristice. HOPEFULLY, fingers fucking crossed, chenc9 is on the second disc and we get to hear that melody that was coming in around 30min. of the Untilted live set. |
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where did you see the second disc play length then>? |
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does anyone else who owns a machine drum and monomachine think a lot of this album feels like mono/machine drum jams? i mean like raw jam sessions. nothing wrong with that at all but honestly this album feels more improvised to me than Gescom Minidisc. its pretty different for autechre, the deliberateness seems completely absent. very free form Quaristice is. |
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yeah i mean there are definitly some more deliberately composed songs on there for sure, SImmm being one of them, but tracks like 2 and Plyphone and 901-39381-1 are really live sounding to me |
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did I say that I havent still listened to a single note of this? why am I so proud of my virginity? I dont really know |
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on the quaristice wikipedia page |
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Jackoffer. I also noticed that these are very obviously machinedrum and monomachine jams. Plus, Rob pretty much confirmed it in that interview with Barcode or whatever. And I am sure you recognize how most of the monomachine synth sounds are being made. And the vocoder work. Nacamat, you still haven't listened to any even though you can legitimately obtain it? |
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lol more reviews from glotch! |
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yes i mean untilted was admittedly done a lot on machine drum and monomachine as well, and yuou can definitly tell. but a lot of untilted doesnt feel like jam sessions its a very deliberate and syncopated tight album with very little freeform aspects. This album literally feels like Sean and Rob spent a week jamming with eachother and cut out the best parts. They even say in these recent round of interviews that some of the tracks were originally 1 hour long jam sessions before they were cut down. I think the raw aspect of this album is the main driving theme, and they seem to have intentionally not rededited it back in the computer to refine it. |
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um, in case you didnt notice, this IS a verdict thread. |
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the re-editing in the computer is imo what they did with the raw monomachine and machinedrum beats from untitled to 'compose' the final songs to me im hearing only deliberate composition in the strictly ambient beatless songs and maybe Simmm and WNSN and Chenc9 |
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and unusually this album to me sounds the most human out of any autechre album previous to it, for the reasons i listed above. there is a primal feel about this AE album that i cannot explain. Even farmersmanual would find some of Quaristice very difficult and chaotic to listen to. |
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well, im hearing reports that bnc castl is just pro radii with less bass and cut to pieces. im not 100% sure myself but it does sound a bit like it. |
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rook, i am gb3 in case you didnt know! |
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the overdriven bass does remind me of pro radii but honestly it sounds to me like they are treading same of the same ground as in the newest Gescom a1- d1 release. i mean this by that it sounds like a cutup plundered acid techno song edit to shit. instead of outright stealing an acid song to cutup they either used pieces of their own old songs or made a new acidy song for the purpose to cutup. |
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I've given it some thought, and heres a more refined verdict on my part. This album to me doesn't seem to have a concept or theme, which is something every ae album has had prior, its part of what makes autechre so great, a new flavor every few years. This is just like a random collection. There are alot of great tracks on here, I'd say 10 or so and I'm not counting the drone tracks which I also like. Tracks like sonDEremawe, Steels, Fol3 are just pointless wastes of album time to me. Boring filler. Steels is basically pro radii stripped naked of it's phatness and told to walk out in the cold. Fol3 to me is just totally uninteresting stretched windy garbage with too much loud doppler shifting to appreciate what might be behind it. Nothign special about Outh9x, Notwo was great however and should have been the true ending to a true beginning (Altibzz). Alot of people already expressed what a pisstake bnc Castl is so I don't even need to get started on that joke of a track. IO would be so much better without that untilted liveset clownish loop of a melody. chenc9 should have had that fantastic 30:00 mark from the glasgow set but failed to give some of us what we wanted. All the rest I haven't mentioned are the truely great tracks to me. |
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i mena now i can see why mary anne hobbs and the wire only played Simmm, WNSN, Tankakern and Rale. the other tracks sound very raw and like jams in comparison |
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