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oops i fucked up. steels is the pro radii mashup. |
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Gwely, what do you think about my idea of the 'concept' of this album being the first really freeform Autechre album, maybe the concept is that it doesnt have a specific concept at all and they just hammered it out through many series of jams. |
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I agree. Albeit conceptually interesting, does it come at an expense? And if so, at what cost? Essentially, is that an album-worthy gesture after 3 years? Not sure. Dont get me wrong, I think it is excellent, though I think we should have gotten that maybe in late 2006, early 2007, rather than now.. or on an ep that explored these ideas. I'm not convinced this works best as an album, though I like the album. Its weird and Autechre never ceases to surprise me. I wonder if it was possible to write the whole album exactly the same, but deliberately and beyond just the MD and MM, would it come off as less of an after thought and more deliberate (more mature)? I mean, imagine these same exact ideas with more diversified sounds and with Draft level production! I'm almost thinking, given the premise as mentioned in the interview, would this album had been better served with continuously mixed tracks or one big long track? |
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i dont hear any of pro radii in Steels, but then again sometimes its hard to tell with autechre al ot of their weird sounds in their various songs share similarities |
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im pretty sure plyphon is a cutup of some draft track. it reminds me too much of it. |
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ugh.. the concept is no concept? shit that kind of take on things can go endlessly into infinity. "..or maaaaybe.." "..but what if..." |
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did I say that I havent still listened to a single note of this? why am I so proud of my virginity? I dont really know im on the other side: i dont care that much about quaristice, but i downloaded the tunes and im collaborating in the gossip. im enjoying the hype! its so nice we all have, at last, something to talk about at xltronic... |
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me too. does it mean we are no real fans? |
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i dunno why everyone is so caught up in the jam aspect...it definately sounds like everything has had plenty of attention in the editing and sound design post recording... the album flows really well, sounds great and it holds up as a larger piece. folk are talking like they just pissed out some half finished bits and bobs and glued it together... there's more than a bit more to it. |
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a real fan would at least buy the friggin album instead of simply downloading it off slsk. |
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Another album. Three good songs, and the rest is a waste of hard drive space. Good if you like that thing I suppose. I just don't have the patience for it any longer. |
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well, i have to get this off my chest. (even if it makes me sound like an idiot) first off. listen to chiastic, lp5 and beyond, especially draft. now put on bnc castl or steels. ehh?? its so glaringly obvious what a joke this is. i thought quaristice was great because it was in harmony with the stuff i had created myself recently, the chaotic beats and such. but just listen to the worst example on the album; bnc castl, and then listen to the immense song composition quality and sound design on really any of their confield/draft/lp5/whatever eras. its more original, it sounds way more deliberate and so forth. and also, i still feel the titles are off. so on that note im putting my hopes up for the second cd to be the 'real' cd, if it really is 70 minutes long with 11 tracks they surely cant fill it with 9 minutes of bnc castl. know what im saying? maybe im stupid or whatever, but something isnt right, and i got their whole discog to prove it. |
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I LOL'd after reading that last part. Ok, maybe its a joke.. Just as much as Fermium was a joke I guess... I dunno... maybe, just maybe we'll get another album sometime this year. |
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Yeah, by comparison, when I first heard draft I thought tapr was filler (don't get me wrong I love it now). And my opinion of some of what I find to be filler on quaristice may change. But heres what I'm getting at, compare tapr to another first glance filler like Fol3. I rest my case. They've really let themselves go.. |
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"definately sounds like everything has had plenty of attention in the editing and sound design post recording... " compared to what? |
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i hate life |
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id have to say that the ambient and beatless (theswere) songs are probably the most thought out any of the tracks on here. although i think Simmm and definitly Chenc 9 ranks up there with some of their past great songs. i mean im getting just about as much out of this as i did Untilted. I left that album with 3 amazing songs to always fall back on, Pro Radii, Ipacial Section and Sublimit |
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CX, dont get too disallusioned, you appear to be experiencing the same Shock i experienced when untilted came out. take a deep breath .. |
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jack if i may ask, how long is your plyphon? |
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compared to what comes straight out some elektron equipment untouched... |
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Wanna tweak out for a bit? Rotate your right leg clockwise and with your right hand draw a number 6 in the air. Wanna tweak out some more? Consider the following: Quaristice as an album > Untilted as an album However, song by song: Untilted > Quaristice. (weird huh?) |
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you have been failed to be Wowed possibly for the first time since any previous AE album, i think this is a stage that a lot of us mustreac at some point or another |
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on that note this has been one fuck of a night. like whoa dude |
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lupus, have you extensively used monomachine or machinedrum? ask rook or futureimage about this and i think they will disagree, they own Elektron equipment as well. i can say with almost 100% certainty that a track like Chenc9 is an raw monomachine + machinedrum. check out the elektron-users forum to see more serious discussions about these facts |
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hobo pills |
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I think someone needs to go to their homes and beat the fuck out of their elektron gear and then kindly slip them a new laptop with a beta version of Max 5 and Reaktor 6, and tell them to stop this rebellion shit and get back to work. |
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i buy records i like, bitch |
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hahah i been having bnc castl on repeat like 10 times, it really does my head in.. and also bnc castl COULD be translated to bounce castle. BOUNCE bounce BOUNCE bounce BOUNCE bounce BOUNCE bounce BOUNCE bounce BOUNCE bounce BOUNCE bounce BOUNCE bounce |
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yeah.. i've got it too... there's clearly alot of elektron on it but there's equally loads of editing going on that's not from those machines....the reverbs sound much better than the elektron verbs to my ears....aside from getting into the dicey area of reverse engineering autechre's production methods, my initial point was that the album wasn't some sort of throwaway effort... |
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I'm kinda overwhelmed now after a first listen all the way through the album in one go. Headphones. Well, what to say? It certainly looks, feels and even sounds a lot like a mix more than a proper 'lbum. I suspect that the bonus disc on the limited edition cd version comes across more like the next Autechre album than what I heard for the first time just now. But by all means, I'm eager to continue listening to the 20 track official version every day for weeks to come and that might very well change my mind about this before the bonus is finaly issued. Quaristice strikes me as the most Rephlex sounding record in the Autechre dicography. I bet Warp just LOVES that about it! As always with a new Autechre album there is a wealth of sounds, ideas and details to loose yourself in for a long time and if you're like me you also get a new perspective on the previous album they released and makes you want to re-listen to that as well. Recommend it? Oh hell, yeah! |
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i like what they said in the interview about jamming together and using external gear, then cleaning it up afterwoods ad getting bits they like and pieces shit together, its a pretty cool way of working and you can get allot done this way. rather than programming evreything and starting at a grid |
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staring* |
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didn't you guys also think untilted was a joke when it came out (or when you had the leak)? |
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Minus the warmth and quality of the reverb (which may have been polished up in the mastering process), it's entirely possible to write an album like this in something like Reason. :P |
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larn, yes this is a very fun way to make music. ive rarely made a song in just a sequencer in the past year. almost all my new tracks start with jams and expand from there once i cut them up into the computer. but i really dont think these jams on quaristice went through much computer editing. effects yes, granular processing yes. but even the reverbs and delays sound like they were done live with hardware rack units. id say that almost none of the crazy cutting up or weird drum beats were done with cutting audio up. they were all done in some way or another with a hardware drum machine in conjunction with software and hardware effects. i would bet that almost none of the sounds on this album come from softsynthesizers. |
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Lupus, yes you are right the revebr heard is def not machinedrum or monomachine. but a track like Chen9 which has no reverb, listen to it again and tell me the acid lines aren't a straight up 64step monomachine line and the drums aren't using a recognizable kit on the machine drum, probably a pattern not editied on the computer. like i said earluier, i think the only thing a computer is being used for on Quaristice is for granular/spectral/harmonic/randomized FX processing and the rest even the reverb is hardware. |
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this is weird but this new AE album sounds more to me like a collaboration between Urban Tribe and Farmers Manual than it does the next installment for Autechre |
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(its a great albumthough) |
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If what you are saying is true, which I believe it to be, it is a shame that they are so dependant on one little company to make their "sound" for the past half decade. Weird. |
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I can hear that! Urban Tribe should seriously be allowed to join Autechre, followed by yourself and me. Domination. |
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of course they have to initialy do some programming, but when they have those beats and loops, they can jam them and get some ideas thrown around. its cool because music should be fun and not just overworked mathmatical programming |
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well one thing to consider is that the company Elektron was influenced by Autechre's sound and IDM techniques to implement certain features into the machinedrum. Im not certain when the first machinedrum hit the market, but i think for Autechre it was like the perfect fit for them. The first time they used it they were probably like 'what the fuck why does this drum machine make music that sounds like us so effortlessly'. Im sure they probably had a good LOL at how high quality the retriggering/stuttering was in the MD, and even a bigger LOL when they found you can assign any type of LFO (saw, square, SH, noise) to the stuttering effect basically enabling them to do any type of stuttering they;'ve ever done on Draft, confield and untilted with a single machine. |
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OMG, AUTECHRE, HOW COULD YOU HAVE NOT MADE THE EXACT ALBUM THAT I WANT TO HEAR? |
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YEA BRA LOL HAHA LOL HAHA LOL |
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you're a fucking idiot. sorry. |
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and you cant take a joke. relax. |
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People always seem to hate new releases..I guess people don't like change or they build up in their head what they think something will sound like. |
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this guy lupus needs to take his balls out of his wife's purse, seriously |
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Ever noticed how much a vagina to looks like a purse. ? |
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"they build up in their head what they think something will sound like. " expectations, the ruiner of all fun but seriously i think its a very good album i like to critique things ilike |
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