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offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 16:58 [#00272905]
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hey poor woofer, he must be sad right now.... I know more or
less how must he be feeling now


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-18 17:01 [#00272914]
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its hard for me to belive that players like totti,del
piero,vieri,inzaghi and montella can't score more than one
goal


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 17:03 [#00272917]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



totti was a BIG disappointment... he had some nice moves,
but not as many as a true vedette should have


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 17:04 [#00272921]
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its easy to believe if you understand that after scoring one
they just wanted to defend (just what spain did last match)

anyway thats what italy always do...they score and the game
is over... but lately (look at the champions league) that is
not giving them any prize at all


 

offline far-east monkey from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-18 17:04 [#00272924]
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yeah i know how he feel.
italy played well.
unfortunately they have no luck.

i would like italy to play more in this
worldcup. it is shame.

in the end korea won.
i hope they go to final as one of Asia country.



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 17:06 [#00272928]
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hehehe I hope not


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 17:06 [#00272930]
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that's very nice of you to wish korea to reach the finals! i
hear there's a lot of competition between japan and korea :)


 

offline far-east monkey from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-18 17:16 [#00272952]
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yes.
you know well relationship between
korea and japan.
Holding with both county i hope
there won't be any conpetition for both
country plus north korea.
thank you to world cup for sharing
pleasure with them including me.



 

offline far-east monkey from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-18 17:22 [#00272966]
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yes nacmat.
i wish both team play well to go to final.
i can't predict which country reach the final.



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 17:36 [#00272999]
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sometimes football has it good things... sometimes football
make countries come together


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 18:02 [#00273048]
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spain, england, germany and turkey
(4 teams from europe, though turkey is just in the middle
between asia and europe they belong to uefa)

where are italy, netherlands, portugal and france???

brazil and usa
(two from america, but where are argentina, uruguay or
mexico??)

korea
(one from asia... again as in 1966, maybe its time to think
that asia can win a world cup...sometime)

senegal
(one from africa out of the five that started the cup, there
is always one good team from africa, nigeria in 1994 or
1998, camerun in 1990... this time senegal could reach
further than any other in the past)

so this are the best 8 teams in the world right now:

germany
usa
spain
korea
brazil
england
senegal
turkey

no one from groups G or H
2 from groups C and D

brazil won all the matches..................12p
spain won 3 and another in penalties...10p
germany won 3 and one draw....10p
korea won 3 and one draw.........10p
senegal and england won 2 matches and drawed 2.........8p
usa and turkey won 2 matches drawed one and lost one..... 7p


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 18:10 [#00273071]
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korea´s coach is guus hiddink

he was coach here in spain in real madrid and valencia... he
was in valencia more than 7 years ago so non of the players
are the same now, but he was real madrid´s coach in 1999
and he won the intercontinental cup against vasco de gama in
japan, so he knows very well some players in spain (raul,
hierro, morientes... were in real madrid when he was his
coach)

this means he might have lots of information about us, and
he might know some good and bad things about those players

I am frightened


 

offline 010101 from Vancouver (Canada) on 2002-06-18 18:12 [#00273076]
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England Vs Korea for the final.

England winning in penalty shoot out.


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-06-18 20:22 [#00273414]
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Im so sorry Woofer.....i know exactly how you feel.
Its not easy seeing your football hopes and dreams smashed
to nothing.....


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 22:30 [#00273784]
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maybe I ll be next to feel the same as you


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 22:47 [#00273822]
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Woo Jong Yu, “We beat Italy and they are better than
Spain. Let’s go for the final.”

gulp*


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-18 22:51 [#00273827]
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io penso positivo ...


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 22:54 [#00273833]
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is that an imitation of van gaal???


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 22:56 [#00273837]
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this is a spanish article:

Algunos tifosi italianos se tomaron muy mal la eliminación
de su selección a manos de Corea del Sur. En la estación
ferroviaria Roma-Termini, numerosos surcoreanos que salieron
a festejar la victoria fueron agredidos por ultras italianos
que les arrojaron todo tipo de objetos, obligando a la
policía a intervenir.

it says that in roma (termini) tiffossi have attacked some
koreans... I hope it doesnt get worst

I am worried about woofer, he must have had a bad day...he
didnt post here today... we are with you woofer


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 23:05 [#00273852]
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I just heard that guardiola is going to play next season in
La Roma


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-18 23:06 [#00273853]
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i can actually understand the whole article
i must say spanish its a lot like italian

it seems like this stupid actions take place all over
world-and its really crazy


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-18 23:08 [#00273856]
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they allready have a very strong midfield

it seems like they are going for yet another cup


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 23:41 [#00273898]
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"i must say spanish its a lot like italian"

in what?



 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-18 23:41 [#00273900]
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omfg

what a nerve wrecking game - my condolences to woofer. luck
definetly wasn't on the italians side in this tournament :/

spain vs korea will be a huge game. i still think spains
narrow win over ireland will do them good - but who knows,
korea are a little like ireland in that respect - don't give
up till the very last minute!!!

ok, the way this world cup is going I'm predicting:

england vs brazil
england vs turkey
senegal vs turkey
england vs spain
germany vs usa (p)
usa vs spain
spain vs korea (p)

???


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 23:47 [#00273901]
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I understood but it was really difficult


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-18 23:47 [#00273902]
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KD> You are predicting England v Spain final ?

I hope you are right because no other predictions have been
right so far

Brazil v. Germany is likely, and those two have never played
each other in a world-cup match !! Seeing this is a
world-cup of first - times, maybe the first meeting of two
great nations for the final ? :(


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-18 23:49 [#00273904]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



Mmm.. formatting didnt make it .. not that it matters - too
hard to predict anyhow.

ENGLAND vs BRAZIL - bring it on !!!!


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 23:50 [#00273907]
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korben you mean:

KOREA
OOOOOOOOOOO
SPAIN.............O
......................O .........spain...
......................OOOOOOOOOOO
USA................O .........usa...
OOOOOOOOOOO
GERMANY.......
.................................................spain -
england

BRAZIL..........
OOOOOOOOOO
ENGLAND.......O
....................O .......england......
....................OOOOOOOOOOOO
SENEGAL.......O ......senegal......
OOOOOOOOOO
TURKEY.........



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 23:52 [#00273908]
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KOREA
OOOOOOOOOOO
SPAIN.............O
......................O .........spain...
......................OOOOOOOOOOO
USA................O .........usa...
OOOOOOOOOOO
GERMANY.......
.....................................SPAIN-ENGLAND

BRAZIL..........
OOOOOOOOOO
ENGLAND.......O
....................O .......england......
....................OOOOOOOOOOOO
SENEGAL.......O ......senegal......
OOOOOOOOOO
TURKEY.........







 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-06-18 23:54 [#00273909]
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Go Spain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go USA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-18 23:54 [#00273910]
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:)

cheers nacmat - thats right ..
on 56k so everything is a bit slow - dunno, the germans can
probably pull it out, but with rudi voellers temper and the
usa's "against the run of play" score lines - who knows?


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-18 23:56 [#00273914]
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DONT YOU THINK that korea is supposed to get to the final??
I mean that fifa wants them to get to the final...
is that possible?


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-19 00:00 [#00273917]
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"Spain is in my heart and I'm very happy to play them as I
worked for a long time in Spain and I'll be meeting some old
players from my teams. " -Hiddink

You mean like a conspiracy ?

I don't know .. but its not impossible ??!!


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-19 00:01 [#00273920]
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Nacmat, its bad luck to assume a conspiracy against you
before you even play them !!

Japan got no favours against Turkey from the referee today,


C'mon man, Korea won't make it ! Don't be paranoid ! If
Spains players thought there was a conspiracy, they wouldn't
be able to play properly .... chill out, Spain v. Germany
awaits !



 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-19 00:03 [#00273923]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



I mean its not impossible that Korea go to the final??

Tho I really think that Spain will win, because for Korea
this game already was a huge victory - and in a sense they
already have achieved the impossible, and i don't think it
will matter to the fans if they loose to spain - Spain on
the other hand has a bit of a history -> and so may be more
motivated to make it to the final??

Not that korea isn't motivated to get to the final, but i
don't know how focussed they can remain? Having said that,
if the Spain korea match goes extra time, i think that korea
would be favoured. :/


 

offline afxNUMB from So.Flo on 2002-06-19 00:04 [#00273928]
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Conspiracy in Soccer??? ehhh i dont think so


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-19 00:08 [#00273932]
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Yeah conspiracy> Bin Laden is Pele and Japan is not a real
country, its all a hologram and Sepp Blatter is a
shapeshifting reptilian being and the referees have yellow
blood and eat babies. And it has been decided that Korea
will win the world cup.

PS> USA were supposed to be "Given" the cup in 1994, but
their team has done better THIS time. so, no conspiracy
methinks.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-19 00:51 [#00273970]
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you know what?
you are sooo right, I was being paranoid... I wont be
anymore.

if spain loses it wont be due to any conspiracy, it will be
cos they plaid better... and for me spain is much better,
but that only time will tell...cos the one who wins is the
best


 

offline korben dallas from nz on 2002-06-19 08:48 [#00274400]
Points: 4605 Status: Regular



hey nacmat

lets hope that the best team wins! it sucks if ones team
loses, but it sucks a whole lot more if its due to the ref's
decisions! (who's the ref for the spain/korea game?).

Who knows, but it will be a great match anyway - the korean
support is quite incredible!!!


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-19 09:30 [#00274489]
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brazil - england

greatest match of this championship (so far)

senegal - turkey

also called "surprise vs surprise", which will lead one bif
surprise into the semifinals... but which?

spain - korea

the most famous underachievers against the red-sea

germany - usa

germany is there as always, the usa is other surprise in
this crazy cup


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-19 10:25 [#00274545]
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Here I am.

1) I'm sorry, but I was ill and I hadn't the possibility to
write here. Today I back in my office and I'm fine.
2) This world cup 2002 is a fuckin' trick and it could be
fuckin' conspirancy (some of you remember olimpic games of
SEOUL 1988???)
3) These refees and linesman are the worst of all world cup
editions.
(Penalty for Brasil against Turkey, 5 goals denied to Italy,
Totti expulsion, goal denied to Belgium against Brasil,
etc...)
4) Italy played a bad game, Trapattoni was a coward and made
a fuckin' substitution DelPiero-Gattuso. He wanted defend
1-0 against Korea... it's a shame!
5)
But a much more big shame is... ONE REGULAR GOLDEN GOAL
DENIED TO TOMMASI! Do you understand the mean of "GOLDEN
GOAL DENIED"... the mean is that they denied our victory.
Why Totti out? Why?!?
Why JAPAN-TURKEY had Collina as referee instead KOREA-ITALY
a fuckin' fat guy called Moreno from ECUADOR???

I love a football when it's a regual sport where win the
best and where there's a little bit of justice. I'm
disappointed for this world cup and now i've only one hope
in my heart... AND I CRY WITH ALL MY VOICE....

SPAIN DESTROY KOREAN PLAYERS ON FIELD AND WIN THIS WORLD CUP
2002!!! I WANT JUSTICE, JUSTICE, JUSTICE!!!!!!!!

I hope SPAIN will avenge their Italian's cousins.

Sincerely, Wooƒer



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-19 10:27 [#00274548]
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btw: Thanx to all mates was near me, yesterday.



 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-19 10:32 [#00274559]
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i feel for you, wooferman.

the referees ARE bad, i mean, they are from countries like
benin, maledives, ecuador, ie no football countries. perhaps
easily bribable... the referee byron in the italy game vs
korea made 'only' two mistakes: the red card for totti and
the golden goal for italy.

i'm beginning to believe nacmat is right and korea have to
go through to the final(?), but then again, hiddink is a
marvellous trainer, very experienced.

i hope spain learn from this, though. they need more than 1
goal to defeat the koreans!!

the fifa always said they wanted more variation and surprise
in the worldcup. well, they got it.

but woofer, don't zip your mouth :)


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-19 10:35 [#00274564]
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woofer:

you have reasons to feel that way...really itally has had
such bad referees this world cup (5 goals denied, tottis
exclussion...)
also brazil seems to have too much luck in that way.

anyway I think there is no conspiracy, its just that the
referees are soo bad, with no personality, so they get
influenced by certain teams (brazil) or certain ambient
(korea fan´s support).

on the other hand Italy mad a big mistake... knowing that
the referee can always do something like that...italy should
have gone for the victory instead of keeping the 1-0. the
same happened to spain against ireland (we almost loose cos
we wanted to keep just that poor 1-0)
in my opinion trappatoni should havve taken more risks, this
way if italy was 2-0, no matter what the referee decides cos
you would have won.

I am sorry cos I wanted to see italy - spain

anyway I think spain was lucky cos italy is such a hard team
to beat (not saying that korea isnt, but you know there is a
diference)


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-19 10:38 [#00274568]
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we were all with you woofer


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-19 10:41 [#00274573]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



hmmm i think spain are going to get a hard time against
korea. i still don't believe korea can beat them, but i
never for a second believed korea could beat italy...
hiddink knows spain very, very well

anyway, as long as those unprofessional brazilians go home
against england, it'll be alright


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-19 10:44 [#00274577]
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IMPORTANT QUESTION:

what do you think of tv retransmition in the field??

everybody in the match can see the replay of the most
controversial scenes in the match (remember trappatoni)
if that happened in a madrid - barça in spain, well that
would be so dangerous.

I wouldnt like to end like other sports in which they have
to stop the game everytime to see the tv replay... football
is imperfect but this imperfection makes it bigger than any
other sport


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-19 10:47 [#00274579]
Points: 12920 Status: Lurker | Followup to nacmat: #00274564



Nacmat, Spain must win!!! I'll support Spain with all my
energies because I want JUSTICE!!!

Italy didn't play a great match but honestly played better
than Korea, imo.
Trapattoni made much errors and he is for a fuckin' defense
game, but Italy didn't deserve to back home. Yesterday it
was an horrible show, we felt alone against all.
When you score a regular goal and referee denied it to
you... oh guys, it's horrible, refeere break your heart. It
could happen 1 or 2 times in a world cup but not 5 times and
especially with a GOLDEN GOAL. The ppl that love this
wonderful sport called FOOTBALL need justice and need to see
great matches where win the best and not where win a referee
from Ecuador.

I repeat that Italy didn't play very well and it was coward
but anyway we didn't deserve to kick out from a
fuck**°#!!@@!!"!!! referee that is only able to eat
BURRITOS and drink CERVEZA.

IT'S A SHAME!!!


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-19 10:49 [#00274582]
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I totally agree Netlon, but this is the reality of the
actual world cup 2002.

I'm sorry also for Belgium, I couldn't believe to my eyes
when I saw the regular goal of Wilmots denied... it was
another big shame.



 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-19 10:49 [#00274583]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



no, those screens in the stadium are censored now, because
the audience would go nuts when they saw a dirty tackle or
something. it was never done in europe precisely for this
reason.

trappatoni had his own little tv, prolly wired through from
a tv station.



 


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