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offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-20 11:09 [#00276465]
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If you saw Korea against Italy they weren't so strong as you
think. I think Spain should win without much problems but
I'm worry for Raul, it's very important for Spanish team and
for who loves good football.



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 11:16 [#00276469]
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I am glad that we play against korea, because with italy and
without raul...we would have had very impossible... with
korea its gonna be hard, but even without raul we can win
and I hope that we beat them and raul is ready for
semifinals... dreaming*


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-20 11:16 [#00276470]
Points: 12920 Status: Lurker | Followup to Netlon Sentinel: #00276451



In these days I'm like an injured lion for what I saw last
Tuesday.

Anyway yesterday I was very angry but I don't think I
sweared (I only used the word fuckin'... like the two boys
in windowlicker's video :D )

Yesterday I told to Phob that I'd stopped to speak about
football 'cos I'm disappointed but everytime I can't resist
to say what I think here ;)

This forum is wonderful, me, you, nacmat, tolstoyed, etc...
are great football experts and it's very funny.




 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-20 11:19 [#00276471]
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Believe me Nacmat... for you was better to play against
Italy (and the same was for Italy).
Korea are unpredictables and are full of surprised, but I'm
sure and I hope you'll win.



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 11:23 [#00276474]
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thanks woofer...I hope we can pass.

it is true that this is a fantastic forum on
football...hehehe more than 1000 posts... I cant believe we
like football so much... and there are lots of matches to
come yet


 

offline Netlon Sentinel from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-20 11:26 [#00276480]
Points: 4736 Status: Lurker



that's also the brilliance of phobiazero's take on
messageboards: you can talk about everything!

one thing you can say about this world cup: it's finally
become a real world cup, with teams competing from all over
the world, not just europe, even after the group stage!


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-20 11:38 [#00276488]
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Honestly, I'd like that this world cup will go in Spain.
This nice nation deserve to win their first cup, Spanish
loves football, they have one of the best championship on
the earth (Liga), they have some of the best players in the
world, they have 2 teams that dominated europe, Real Madrid
and Barcellona, and they haven't win one world cup...

It will be very hard, there are a lot of strong teams but I
say:

Good luck Spain, come on red fury... go, play well and win
your deserved 1st world cup!!!



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 11:43 [#00276491]
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yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssssssss!!!!!!

lol

:-)))))



 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-20 12:06 [#00276509]
Points: 1463 Status: Lurker



This England - Brasil game should be played today, because
the tension is unbearable ... people are going mad with
frustration ! On the radio now there are people phoning in
explaining why England will win the cup...

"Because I was born in 1966 and my child was born in 2002"
"because 1+9+6+6= 22 and 2002 , wow what a coincidence !"
"England conceded one goal in 1966 group phase and they have
again"
"I had a dog called lucky in 1966, and now I have a dog
called beckham, which means beckham will score 3 against
Brasil ...."

This nonsense is unbearable, and its because the build-up is
too long, I hate the way people resort to superstition when
they lose their stomach for real analysis .... BTW I still
don't know who will wear what colours tomorrow, I think red
would be best for England :) (joke..)


 

offline Tasos from Athens (Greece) on 2002-06-20 12:24 [#00276512]
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This world cup should go to spain, yeah. I liked it to go
mostly to Mexico, but anyway...

Brazil will totally beat England. Up to a point, no luck
applies, only quality and I don't think England has it. They
had only one good performance so far anyway...


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-20 13:17 [#00276578]
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Tasos> was that one good performance the 1-0 spearing of
pre-tournament favourites Argentina or the 3-0 destruction
of Group A winners Denmark ?

remember who Brazil have beaten so far >

China ( didn't score a goal in all 3 games )
Turkey (thanks to an incorrectly awarded pen. )
Costa Rica ( who still managed to score twice)
Belgium (could have won if their goal had stood)

I think England have played harder games so far and our
defence looks solid. I agree that Brazil are favourites, but
your total confidence is ill-founded. Maybe you remember the
2-2 draw with Greece at Old Trafford. Well that was then &
this is now, and weren't Brazil busy losing to Ecuador and
Peru around that time ?

PS> how do you like Derby ? I live only 15 miles from there
but I prefer Nottingham for shops/record stores/ nights out
... nice to be away from the 40 degree heat of Athens i
guess *sizzzle* :)


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-20 13:23 [#00276583]
Points: 12920 Status: Lurker | Followup to smokehammer: #00276509



Eriksson is a great coach and England played one of best
football that I saw in this world cup, instead Brasil didn't
impress me so much.
England should beat Brasil, imo.


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-20 13:28 [#00276592]
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I hope England-Brasil will be a correct match with good and
honest referees so we will see great football.



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 17:20 [#00276859]
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RAUL WILL NOT PLAY

not against korea, and he is doubtfull for the semifinal (if
we got there)

we must forget about him now


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-20 17:24 [#00276862]
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that's not good news for spain.
u would sure need one of those excellent italian strikers
that didn't get chance to play-i have a feeling that spain
has lack of top strikers.guti should be in the team as well
imo.



 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-20 17:31 [#00276866]
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...so will we see tristan?


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-20 17:38 [#00276871]
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is there any alternative?


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 17:42 [#00276876]
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probably we will see valeron and tristan... maybe luis
enrique will play as striker instead of being in the right
and joaquin would be in the right:

.......................tristan......................
de pedro........valeron............joaquin
..........................luis enrique...........
........................xavi.......................
juan fran....helguera....hierro....puyol
.......................casillas....................

this coul be one chance (and it is a real good team)


 

offline Laqeuro from New York City (United States) on 2002-06-20 17:44 [#00276877]
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heh, i don't know shit about soccer, except that usa is
gonna kick everyones ass....................gee wouldn't
that be the day.


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 17:46 [#00276882]
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de pedro.........morientes........joaquin
.............valeron.........luis enrique.....
.....................helquera.....................
juan fran.....nadal.....hierro.......puyol
.......................casillas....................

this is other way


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-20 17:47 [#00276885]
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i prefer the second lineup


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 17:49 [#00276890]
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de pedro......morientes......luis enrique
.............valeron.........mendieta.........
.....................helquera.....................
juan fran.....nadal.....hierro.......puyol
.......................casillas....................

I would love xavi to move the team, but he wont play I
think
de pedro..........tristan........luis enrique
.............valeron........baraja..............
.....................helquera.....................
juan fran.....nadal.....hierro.......puyol
.......................casillas....................



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 17:51 [#00276891]
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anyway we are very worried about raul... he could miss the
rest of the world cup....

why?
why?
why????????????
WHY???????


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-20 17:58 [#00276893]
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i heard solari received spanish passport.
is he going to play for spain in the future?


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 18:03 [#00276897]
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dont think so... any player from argentina would love to
wear the white and blue shirt


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-20 18:13 [#00276911]
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FIFA bars any player from representing more than one nation,
so Solari (who has played for Argentina) can never play for
Spain.

Anyway, lets concentrate on tomorrows games>

England v. Brasil
Tough, the hot weather conditions favour Brazil, but England
have no injuries and have had two extra days recovery.
Juninho Paulista is highly admired in England and a lovely
person , (he used to play for Middlesbrough). Ronaldo is on
fire, Rivaldo is always very dangerous, and Ronaldinho has
really caught my eye. I think Brazil will win, but not
without a very strong fight from England, who will not
accept being beaten as easily as many sides. Scholes should
be the key man for this game.

Germany v. USA
Expect Germany to pose more problems for the USA than Mexico
in terms of pure physical strength. German teams are always
the biggest physically and I doubt the USA has the football
sense to break them like England, Brasil or Spain could.
However, if the USA start with pace and go for it, they have
the ability to defend a surprise lead, and could take the
game to penalties, but even then I'd back the Germans.

through on Friday (prediction)
Brazil (2-1) golden goal
Germany(5-4) penalties


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-20 18:13 [#00276912]
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FIFA bars any player from representing more than one nation,
so Solari (who has played for Argentina) can never play for
Spain.

Anyway, lets concentrate on tomorrows games>

England v. Brasil
Tough, the hot weather conditions favour Brazil, but England
have no injuries and have had two extra days recovery.
Juninho Paulista is highly admired in England and a lovely
person , (he used to play for Middlesbrough). Ronaldo is on
fire, Rivaldo is always very dangerous, and Ronaldinho has
really caught my eye. I think Brazil will win, but not
without a very strong fight from England, who will not
accept being beaten as easily as many sides. Scholes should
be the key man for this game.

Germany v. USA
Expect Germany to pose more problems for the USA than Mexico
in terms of pure physical strength. German teams are always
the biggest physically and I doubt the USA has the football
sense to break them like England, Brasil or Spain could.
However, if the USA start with pace and go for it, they have
the ability to defend a surprise lead, and could take the
game to penalties, but even then I'd back the Germans.

through on Friday (prediction)
Brazil (2-1) golden goal
Germany(5-4) penalties


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-20 19:10 [#00276992]
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about england-brazil match
i wish brazil would win-not because of any national
preference, but simply because i prefer how brazilians
play-very simple but very effective-they don't complicate
advantage for england is imo, that they can deffend with the
whole team as well as attack with the whole team.
so i think there is about 50/50 in chances


 

offline Darth manchu from Cambridge (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-20 21:21 [#00277276]
Points: 1897 Status: Regular



A thought occured to me last night.

The final could be England vs Germany.

AAARRRGGGHHHH!!!


 

offline plugexpert from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-20 21:23 [#00277280]
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I hope the Koreans will get 2 the finals together with
Brasil,..........

that would b sweet,....

of course the Koreans would win


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 23:21 [#00277405]
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very funny... plugexpert... I am sorry but spain will break
your dreams


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-20 23:25 [#00277409]
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OK European friends , nacmat , legions of aphex football
lovers ( you realise we are a minority of a minority )

GO TO BED AND DREAM OF A PAUL SCHOLES HAT_TRICK !! Sleep
Sleep and be ready for dawn and the first truly great
showdown of 2002!


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-20 23:28 [#00277413]
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in fact we are a minority of a minority...hehehe ...I like
it

luck to UK, I wish it is a great match


 

offline smokehammer from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-20 23:35 [#00277418]
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careful,

you're wishing Wales, Scotland, and Northern Ireland
luck...
..you may as well give Ronaldo a dubious penalty and tie
Seamans boot-laces together :(

(most non-English people hate England here in the UK)

But thanks I appreciate your spirit nac !! But even I love
watching Brazil and we don't dislike them like we do
Argentina, they are a wonderful team but we shall see...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-21 00:01 [#00277475]
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4-2 for brazil
am i too optimistic?


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-21 00:06 [#00277489]
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sorry i just said Uk cos it was shorter than england, but I
assure you I really know its not the same...so I am to blame
for writting so.

luck for england!

lets watch a great game


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-21 08:00 [#00277911]
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ENGLAND-BRASIL=1-0 Owen!!! C'mon England send Brasil at
home...


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-21 08:20 [#00277926]
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england is going home
hehe


 

offline Sido Dyas from a computer on 2002-06-21 08:28 [#00277941]
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Ahhh what a great match!!
Very exciting!!
I think England will win if they continue to play this great
defense.

GO ENGLAND!!


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-21 08:39 [#00277961]
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england is going home


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-21 08:47 [#00277976]
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I just woke up when they where in the break time... I saw
that rivaldo had scored in 47 ... then in the first minutes
of the second half 2-1 by ronaldinho and now red car for
ronaldinho... what will happen??


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-21 08:54 [#00278005]
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It seems that ronaldinho didn't deserve red card anyway it's
an hard match.
C'mon England, make another goal!



 

offline Jarworski from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-21 08:55 [#00278011]
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even 10 against 11... it looks ropey for England


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-21 08:57 [#00278021]
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see woofer, referees are just bad for everybody...italy were
just very unlucky

anyway now clear fault to owen and the referee as if he
didnt see it


 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-21 09:09 [#00278042]
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You said: "see woofer, referees are just bad for
everybody...italy were
just very unlucky"

Nacmat I watch football from 1982, so I know that lucky go
and come, and that the ball is round but what happened in
this world cup seems politically strange (see FIFA, Blatter,
Moreno, incredible goals denied, etc...), imo. Anyway I'll
stop to speak about referees, 'cos i want enjoy only real
football on our loved green field :-D




 

offline WooferAttack from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-21 09:20 [#00278057]
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Last minutes... why england don't attack?!? Com'on!!!



 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-21 09:21 [#00278062]
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hey I begun watching football in 1984 (eurocup)... that year
spain got to the final against france but we finally lost...
1982 was too soon for me (7 years) but I remember my father
went to el bernabeu the day of the final and he brought me a
copy of the cup made of plaster.
I also remember that we had an italian neighbour and how he
screamed from the balcony each goal by paolo rossi


 

offline tolstoyed from the ocean on 2002-06-21 09:25 [#00278066]
Points: 50073 Status: Moderator



totaly deserved win for brazil
england really had a bad game
they did't do much-and the only goal they scored was a gift
by lucio
im glad that better team won


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-21 09:27 [#00278072]
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finally 2-1

I am sorry for those supporting england... I couldnt see the
match so I dont know who deserved to go through.

brasil is in the semifinals where they will meet turkey or
senegal... it looks as if brazil were going to make their
3rd final in a row


 

offline nacmat on 2002-06-21 09:28 [#00278074]
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now
germany - USA

any other year I would have bet for germany...but this cup
is crazy... so who knows


 


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