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I wish we can at least give you the pleasure of beating korea...but it will be hard... eleven vs thirteen (11+fans+referee) anyway its normal cos they play at home. |
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No, I'ìm sorry but this time I'm not agree with you. Retransmition in the field is fundamental, imo. I agree about imperfection on the field, but imperfection bewteen players and between trajectory of the ball... but you can't lose a match for a referee... I'll never accept this thing! I could accept that win a team more lucky than another but i can't accept than a team lose 'cos a referee deny a regular goal. A goal is a goal you can't deny it, imo. Probably with retransmition in the field, world cup could more realistic. |
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I also think that way, but how much would the matches last then? what would happen in those cases in which even after the replay not everybody agrees with what happened... it would be very difficult |
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btw: With Retransmition in the field, I'm mean MOVIOLA or instant replay with the the referees that change decision when they made an error. (i.e. AMERCAN FOOTBALL) But I'll use moviola only for important decisions as Penalty, espulsion, simulations or goals denied. |
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The 4th referee should check the moviola out of the field and verify the right decision of the referees on the field. I saw on TV that 2 years ago, 30 european referees voted for MOVIOLA on the field. Why FIFA don't use it? 'cos probably there are a lot of personal interests to defend. (with moviola on the field, korea never beat Italy and probably belgium won against Brasil) |
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like it or not, these are the mistakes that make football interesting. the human factor must always be upheld, otherwise we might just design a couple of football drones and watch them play an utterly predictabel match. |
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Nacmat, I hope Spanish football federation is politically strongest than Italy. I REPEAT: Turkey federation was politically strong (the chief of european referees is a Turkish) and they got COLLINA for the match against another home's team called Japan. Italian's federation is very poor and few important so we got Moreno from Ecuador, I'd like that this thing would be clear for everybody here. Nacmat, we'll see soon how much is important in the world Spanish football federation when we'll know the referee of the match SPAIN-KOREA... believe me, mate. Meditate... JAPAN-TURKEY COLLINA (ITALY) (probably the future referee of grand final 2002) ................KOREA - ITALY MORENO (ECUADOR) |
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Now I'll stop to speak about referee, italy, korea, moreno, moviola, etc... 'cos it hasn't sense more. I say only one thing: SPAIN win against KOREA on the field, against FIFA, REFEREE, LINESMAN, etc... I hope to see a great football match, clear and correct where win the best. My bet is: SPAIN - SOUTH KOREA = 2 - 0 (Morientes, Raoul) + (2 regulars goal denied... no, ok now i'm joking... i hope...) |
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Woofer man .. feel for ya all we can hope for is some good refereeing. May the best team win!! |
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This will be my new face in the MB... the face of the referee MORENO... |
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hey woofer you look ugly in you avatar...hahaha and a bit over weight too. villar (spanish) vicepresident of fifa (hehehe....) |
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I AM VERY DISSAPOINTED WITH TRAPPATONI: he said that if italy had beaten korea they would have gone to the semifinal,cos spain is nothing to worry about...he said that korea was the best team tha they had to play till semifinals... well I think thats stupid. I am not saying that korea is not good, but its stupid from him to say that he didnt worry about spain when he had just lost with korea... if he is angry against the referee or the fifa I dont understand why he has to loose his respect towards spain. |
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In 1986 I had to live with Maradona punching the ball into the goal with his hand to beat England Then in 1994 England didn't get to the finals 'cos Ronald Koeman was not sent off after the worst professional foul ever on Platt , and a free-kick was given instead of penalty. In 1998 Sol Campbells goal was disallowed v. Argentina for some slight pushing ... and we lost again on penalties.... Every side has bad luck and bad decisions, but you have to live with it. On Friday, England face a side (Brazil) who get many favours from FIFA, and who FIFA obviously want in the final... MAY THE BEST TEAM WIN and may the referee be fair . Its more likely the heat kills England than the referee... |
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Well said Smokey. The injustices England have recently endured is making this world cup sugary sweet. I just pray we beat Brazil. Oh the way I would feel. I just hope England can celebrate it properly. After the Argentinian game there was a really agrassive atmosphere on the streets. I just want pure elation. |
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england 1 brazil ...0 turkey...2 senegal 3 spain ...3 korea ..1 germany 2 usa........0 _________________________________ semifinals: england 2 senegal 1 spain .....3 germany 2 ________________________________ final: ....................extra time......penalties england 2..............0..............3 spain ....2..............0..............4 hehehe |
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this are the referees: (just heard on the radio) england brazil ......referee from mexico turkey... referee from colombia senegal spain ... referee from egypt korea .. germany usa........ referee from scotland |
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"He said that if italy had beaten korea they would have gone to the semifinal,cos spain is nothing to worry about...he said that korea was the best team tha they had to play till semifinals... well I think thats stupid. I am not saying that korea is not good, but its stupid from him to say that he didnt worry about spain when he had just lost with korea... if he is angry against the referee or the fifa I dont understand why he has to loose his respect towards spain. " Where did you read this stuff, nacmat? I never known about that interview. I'm sure it's a fake 'cos Trapattoni is gentleman, believe me. In Italy we never heard about that interview. Spain is one of the best team of this world cup and trapattoni is too intelligent for say a thing like that. |
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woofer I read it on www.marca.com or www.as.com I dont remember now, but now that you say it, maybe its fake as it is an spanish source and not an international source... but why would they lie about that?? when italy isnt even playing with us... maybe you are right but then I dont know what intentions had that newspaper ... |
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it was in www.as.com I just read it again ...the information was given by EFE a news agency here in spain |
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i wonder if your picture maybe ..... your sense of humor is funny for me. |
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article: FIFAworldcup.com, the official website of the 2002 FIFA World Cup™, announced this morning the results of an international poll that reveals online fans’ all-time ultimate FIFA™ World Cup team. Over the past five weeks, FIFAworldcup.com, in conjunction with Official Partner Philips, has given fans the chance to vote online for their fantasy Dream Team. Over one-and-a-half million votes were cast from 31 countries worldwide, making this the first truly global Dream team poll. Using exclusive video footage from the FIFA archives, fans have selected their eleven-footballing favourites from a list of 150 legends. The Dream Team, as voted for by fans from around the world, reads as follows:- FIFAworldcup.com Philips Dream Team table Striker: Pele (107,539 votes) Striker: Johan Cruyff (53,645 votes) Striker: Romario (29,480 votes) Midfielder: Diego Maradona (111,035 votes) Midfielder: Zinedine Zidane (80,527 votes) Midfielder: Roberto Baggio (55,625 votes) Midfielder: Michel Platini (53,783 votes) Defender: Franz Beckenbauer (81,442 votes) Defender: Paolo Maldini (58,523 votes) Defender: Roberto Carlos (58,200 votes) Goal Keeper: Lev Yashin (24,587 votes) |
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actually this team lacks of players that run over the side line. also the defense have 2 left defanders and none on the right... but well its great anyway |
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You know that journalist like to write sensational news for attract people. I think Trapattoni (as Camacho too) think that was better play against Spain than Korea only for the following reasons: We know very well Spanish football and you know very well Italian football, so could be a more easy match for both teams... but as you saw yesterday, play against Korea in the world cup called Korea/Japan 2002 is like play roulette at casinò, imo. Everything is possible. So I think is better to play against Spain than Korea 'cos I know you're strongest than korea but would be a great correct match on the field and would win really the best... but play against Korea could be a unpredictable result and in fact we lost. On the paper you're strongest than Korea you should win 3-0 but... remeber is like play roulette in casinò... |
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I THINK THE REFEREE "ROMERO" FROM ECUADOR IS THE BEST REFEREE OF WORLD CUP 2002. MY PICTURE IS A TRIBUTE TO HIS HONESTY. |
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will you see brazil - england ??? that is a good match |
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hahahaha yes he is with no doubt the best referee in history lol and very athletic too |
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Sure, it will be a great match. I think England should win without much problems, imo. |
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Yeah, very athletic... in the next world cup I hope FIFA will designate DANNY DE VITO as referee for next Italy's match. |
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an he was quite ugly... a freak |
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I'm receiving a lot of hilarious mails against MORENO and BLATTER... they're really funny. |
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I can imagine...here in spain mails with funny facts about some important news are very usual. |
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you are little bit fat aren't you? hahhaha. looking your face i feel ironic. i know how you feel. yesterday japan was beaten by tukey. your team italy lost game same as japan. but italy stayed in sendai in japan. people in sendai and japanese football funs was impressed with italy fantasic play. it not too much to say that italy was influence on japanese footboll funs especially kids . your depressing is more sad than me. but staying your great team was not worthless. i really think so. |
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Next Saturday I will support Spain... you should win Nacmat, you should win! I can't accept this situation, best football has to win and your strongest than Korea, imo. Raul, make me dream! |
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thanks woofer maybe raul doesnt play cos he is injured but we will win... this is our year |
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I don't understand if you're joking or not but the picture isn't my face but the face of ROMERO the honest referee of Italy-Korea. :-) About your consideration about Italy, thanks, I'm sorry that Japan lost too. |
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I hope Raul will play, he would be very important for Spain. I'm sure Spain will bring back justice in this world cup 2002!!! Come on RED FURY, come on SPAIN!!! |
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On July I will go to IBIZA for holiday and I hope to buy original red shirt of SPAIN, maybe N.7 of RAUL. It's time to win your first and deserved WORLD CUP, mate. |
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ENGLAND is really very strong and they're favourites for the grand final, imo. Maybe a great final: ENGLAND-SPAIN ? I'd like it very much... it would be a great match!!! |
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I hope next referees for 4th of final will be ables and honests. Anyway: USA-GERMANY (usa could have some advantages from referee... see mexico-usa, penalty denied for mexico) SPAIN-KOREA (korea could have some advatages from referee... see Romero and Italy) ENGLAND-BRASIL (brasil could have some advantages from referee... see turkey and belgium) SENEGAL-TURKEY (probably the only one match without particular advantages) |
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this world cup is very strange the president of the international asosiation of referees is turkish |
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Yeah, I told you... that's the reason why JAPAN-TURKEY had one of the best referee in the world, called Collina. |
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I read the article of www.as.com... I'll investigate about it, if trapattoni really told that things about spain it would be a stupid! |
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woofer, I am sure trappatoni didnt say taht...or at least not in that way...I am sure...you are right when you say that journalists always try to make it more than it really is |
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I read two articles on El Pais and El Mundo and it seems they don't understand why Italy is so angry with Moreno, is it true? |
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Yeah, I think so... I checked on much differents site but in all interviews he doesn't speak about Spain. Anyway we can't be sure... |
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NO, in spanish press this is what they say: they say that really italy has been robbed lots of times in this world cup they also say that against korea the referee shouldnt have fired totti and that the offside that was a goal by gatusso wasnt offside at all. but they also say that other times italy has been favoured by the referees, so they musnt think of conspiracy, as this is just a matter of sometimes referees give and others take. |
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Now, I have to back home, see you tomorrow football's mates. ;) |
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OK, now I understand, thank you friend. |
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I really don't like some Italians sayin' that 'everyone is against Italy' and I've heard it plenty of times so far. anyway, i wonder how Whan will return to Italy :-)))) |
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btw: Thanks for these nice words about me, i feel the same for you friend. |
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