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yann_g
from now on 2020-06-07 11:24 [#02602832]
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unorthodox 9/10 a separation 7/10 the wolf of wall street 1/10 in bruges 8/10 the green hornet 7/10 the 5th wave 1/10 nebraska 8/10 captain america 1/10
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-06-07 21:14 [#02602879]
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we die young 2/5
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-07 23:27 [#02602884]
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arrival - trivial piece of shit, cosmos as geopolitics, human existence as dead daughter
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-08 01:22 [#02602898]
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I thought it was a good yarn, not sure I buy the daughter as a pro natalist symbol rather than a contingent plot device, the movie wasn't really about that as a theme.
I can't find it right now but I read a review of it that called it an Obama-era liberal fable about how technocratic expertise would save us, or words to that effect.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-08 01:25 [#02602899]
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and this may play to the technocratic angle but isn't one of the points that we need to learn new ways to speak that transcend a stale geopolitical framing
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-08 01:27 [#02602900]
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I hated Captain America the first time, then gave it another shot and enjoyed it as self parody
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-08 01:43 [#02602901]
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well, yes, you use the transformative encounter with an alien language that irreversibly changes the meaning of time and human existence to improve relations with mean militaristic china.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-08 01:47 [#02602902]
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i didn't think so much of the daughter thing as natalist (i mean it did disgust me like all breeder propaganda does), it's more that it's such a facile stand-in for what a life amounts to. you see the child is cute so it was worth it even though it is sad that she dies.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-08 02:05 [#02602906]
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aw cmon, all the countries are going batshit, as she's trying to contact china her own army guys are trying to break in and frag her. what's wrong with a fable about overcoming nationalism?
i didn't think so much of the daughter thing as natalist (i mean it did disgust me like all breeder propaganda does), it's more that it's such a facile stand-in for what a life amounts to. you see the child is cute so it was worth it even though it is sad that she dies.
Well yeah that's what natalist / antinatalist positions are about, is it ultimately worth it, and antinatalists say no. My own stupid position is that the side you take is determined by affect and it's very hard to impossible to argue someone into changing their mind on it. Maybe the experiences you have change your brain chemistry and you consequently change your ideas.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-08 04:35 [#02602912]
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the child is irrelevant i just mean there are other aspects of life than making a damn baby!! how does she feel about her own future past the next seven or so years, about her entire life collapsing into one timeless unit, about being always already dead and forever reborn. notice she hasn't even been supplied with a past.
the political fable is unpleasant precisely because it unthinkingly assumes the most boring crisis of looting and war as a natural result. that what brings the world together is a sentimental phone call instead of, you know, the most significant event in human history that just happened, is insulting and ideologically foul.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-08 11:50 [#02602917]
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quite naturally amidst all these technocratic and geopolitical convulsions that atomise, isolate and scatter us like dust in a whirlwind, what grounds and binds us to our common humanity, and crystallizes our disparate lives into a framework of meaning, is our human-scale relationships to family members, with all their humble lumps, triumphs and tragedies
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-08 12:06 [#02602918]
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otherwise what are we? commoditized, fungible value generators to be plugged in wherever we're needed, with no permanent connections or identities aside from our credit histories and drug prescriptions
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-08 12:27 [#02602920]
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yeah i mean you're really solidifying the reactionary themes there haha
there's a lot more to common human experience than family trees. i like weather and seasons myself, and joke's and stories and myths and dreams and trauma and the desperate search for justice in an unjust universe. i don't hate humanity enough to believe that such a worldchanging event would divide instead of unit us.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-08 12:35 [#02602921]
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plus, look, this is not actually a story about humanity. it's a story about two characters, the linguist woman convincing the bad chinese general to be good instead. great man theory with humanity as the background threat.
unsurprisingly, there seems to have been none of that in the original short story. it's trivial screenwriter but-there-needs-to-be-conflict nonsense.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-08 13:59 [#02602924]
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They're not great men, the plot twist is that their saving grace is the small particulars and personal details of their individual lives, and how they connect through that rather than through an abstract generalized sense of "humanity". And if you're going to celebrate mass man and myth at the expense of the personal connections between particular lives, isn't that the real fascism? And isn't myth full of great men?
I'm going to recommend another sci fi movie about mass man versus personal connection, it is called The Giver. trigger warning it also has babies
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-08 16:46 [#02602930]
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by myths i meant the folk stories that connect us over the world and through time >_< stop misunderstanding me i've been an universalist on record
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-08 16:51 [#02602931]
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like, shit, you know what i mean, you read the epic of gilgamesh and you think hey yeah i relate to whoever thought this up
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DADONCK
from here on 2020-06-08 23:34 [#02602960]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-09 01:44 [#02602962]
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I will not be baited into making an "I identify as Sumerian" joke. Nice try, dariusgriffin.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-09 02:37 [#02602964]
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if i was in a cave i would make hella cave paintings
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-09 13:58 [#02602971]
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I just enjoy watching the cool shadows tbh
"Cool shadows. Recommended!" - Rotten Tomatoes
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-06-09 21:52 [#02603004]
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i read that stallone himself has said that escape plan 2 is a horrible movie
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-10 00:52 [#02603018]
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encounters between the personal and the cosmic is one of my favourite kinds of story, here's a few good ones
abel ferrara's 4:44 the chillest of apocalypse movies solaris of course close encounters of the third kind the one with the bad family man
even the supposedly cold 2001 with its people jogging and having birthdays and playing chess and space toilet
arrival only pretends to be like these so it can better sell its banal story of conflict and growth
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-10 03:41 [#02603038]
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The common thing in Close Encounters and 2001 was people turning their backs on their families and their humanity and undergoing transcendence and transfiguration, and in Arrival just the opposite happens, and that bugs you ideologically not because it's a bad movie I think. (it's also for sure not as good as those other ones)
I watched Close Encounters again not long ago and it holds up so well, even the effects look fresh. Good old Richard Dreyfuss and his mashed potatoes.
4:44 I've not seen, have to add it to my list.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-10 04:17 [#02603039]
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no i mean i think close encounters dad is very much in the wrong, but that's what makes the movie interesting! i like families to be depicted as real social entities, more than generators of fuzzy feelings
the most striking thing about close encounters is the robertaltmanness of it imo
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-06-25 23:28 [#02604231]
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the gunman - 4/5
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Portnoy
on 2020-07-06 13:18 [#02604990]
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true story - 2.7/5 - wonderfully average with just enough intrigue to keep you occupied for 90 minutes
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-07-13 01:45 [#02605418]
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Synecdoche New York, gonna give this a little over 4/5 because I felt the absurdity detracted from the tragedy in a way that made the film less engaging.
Anomalisa, Charlie's next turn in the director's chair, was arguably less tragic and more absurd (stop motion, Tom Noonan's voice) but far more engaging and moving.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2020-12-25 22:14 [#02607263]
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eat pray love 5/5 lost in translation (rewatch) 5/5
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-12-26 01:17 [#02607267]
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how old are you Archipelago
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-12-26 01:23 [#02607268]
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by the way, i hope you fucking die!!! hello to, what's, o h f u c k o f f
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-12-26 01:27 [#02607269]
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"the most striking thing about close encounters is the robertaltmanness of it imo " you need to fucking step back m8
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steve mcqueen
from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2020-12-26 01:33 [#02607270]
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Wilhelm Hartnell
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mermaidman
on 2021-06-23 21:19 [#02609430]
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anyone watched Jonathan Glazer's other two movies Birth (2004) and Sexy Beast (2000)?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2021-06-23 22:11 [#02609431]
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sexy beast is brill, not a minute wasted in it, proper lean
"fuckin bouldahh!"
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mermaidman
on 2021-06-23 22:26 [#02609432]
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cool!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2021-06-24 19:33 [#02609448]
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Bad Moms : 3/3 hot moms! Would watch again.
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mermaidman
on 2021-07-13 16:56 [#02609863]
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i watched scanners by david cronenberg and i give it a 7 out of 10
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mermaidman
on 2021-07-13 16:56 [#02609864]
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still didn't watch the fly yet
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mermaidman
on 2021-08-04 00:17 [#02610432]
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fitzcarraldo - 9/10
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2021-08-04 13:05 [#02610433]
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You need to see Videodrome. Plus points for the soundtrack.
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mermaidman
on 2021-08-04 13:49 [#02610434]
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i did my favorite after naked lunch enjoyed crash as well
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mermaidman
on 2021-08-04 13:51 [#02610435]
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actually i watched naked lunch a long time ago i should see it again maybe i like videodrome better
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2021-08-05 16:19 [#02610443]
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I saw Naked Lunch a long time ago at the cinema. All I remember is some weird creature that was mainly ass.
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mermaidman
on 2021-08-05 19:11 [#02610444]
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it is very homoerotic
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RussellDust
on 2021-08-07 17:28 [#02610517]
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Mermaidman, good taste in movies or not, you are rubbish!
I’m not sure what you’re doing exactly but I think I’m going to make sure you can never return if you continue being this disappointing. What you’re doing (and you know what I mean) shows you don’t really give a shit about anyone but yourself.
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mermaidman
on 2021-08-07 17:41 [#02610520]
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LOL! but i don't know what you mean
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2021-08-08 00:37 [#02610527]
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The typewriter than turned into a cockroach that spoke out its ass?
and the people with udders on their head
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mermaidman
on 2021-08-08 12:16 [#02610543]
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remember when he sprinkles/rubs the powder on the bug's anus??
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mermaidman
on 2021-08-13 14:01 [#02610730]
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guys anyne watched this motherfuckeur's movies? john-paizs
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