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i think that is a great way to put it. |
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how do you know? |
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who put it there, map? your conscious state is so much more than neurons firing... |
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The teachings of Jesus Christ are a great way to live as are Allah, Buddah and James T Kirk |
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i dont think that's a good example, we have physical evidence |
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but how is it possible for a being to contain the three traits simultaniously? How can a being be all-powerful and all-good at the same time, for if the being is truly all-good, it wouldn't have the power to do evil, which would no longer make it all powerful. |
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...of black holes. |
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when has God ever done evil? |
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I feel tibbar should die a slow agonising death involving tooth picks thru vital organs , and hot tarr....... but thats just me. |
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well, just because a being has the power to do evil, doesn't mean the being HAS to do evil... |
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well, lets be thankful the universe isnt run by a 16 year old girl, then. |
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by giving human beings free will god granted us the ability to make the decision to do evil in any given situation. a truly omnibenevolent being would not have such an ability if it were to remain omnibenevolent. |
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yeah perhaps you are right mimi, but really I find evidence in the way things are...everything is mathimatical and even in the chaos there is order....who made that order? I find it hard to believe that it all just happened by chance.... |
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haha oh shit |
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yes, you are correct, but a TRULY omnibenevolent being would not even have the power to do evil. |
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corn: why would God want you do be a mindless slave? you have to CHOOSE to do good or evil. |
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You are making the rest of us heathens look bad! Join the disscusion instead. |
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johnny: someone had to say it. |
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anon your words of wisdom have really added to this thread, please tell of more of what you think........... |
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i hope that was sarcastic... |
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What does God do? Does he just sit infrount of a big veiw screen and flick from person to person? If prayer works why do I have to? |
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i believe thats also true unless of course you have had evil done upon you all your life.. which would be tragic.. damn i can see another tangent here this is a crazy world <- this lucky dude is going to get some breakfast |
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your talking about the teleological, or 'design' arguments of theology, which I myself find the most compelling. It's premises are as follows: 1) The universe and it's parts are extremely complex. 2) It's highly unlikely that all of this complexity is a result of mere chance or "natural" process. 3) It appears that some sort of "intelligent designer" is needed to explain the origins of such complexity. |
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well, I do disagree there... looking at Jesus, he was such an amazing person because he had the power to do evil, as we all do, yet he didn't... and he was only human... God as well has the power to do evil I guess, but whether or not you are evil is a choice... |
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hahah ohhh that would be my guess tibbar. |
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010101: its called a relationship. any good one involves initiated communication. sure he could just do everything, but that once again doesn't require you demonstrating love to him. |
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indeed it was sir tibbar! corngrower, I find that compelling myself. please tell me more sir, im quite interested! |
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yes, but I'm talking about a TRULY omniscient being. By saying god had the choice and gave us the ability to do evil would make such a being not TRULY omniscient. It's a paradox. |
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So I can do what I want and as long as I say sorry before I die I get into heaven. Great where do I sign. |
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im 15 and half , so not even 16,but my god that has so much to do with things doesnt it? i know lets all be patronising cunts now ,not to mention sexist! tibbar the wise , you know people pray/prey whatever to god, how the hell does he listen to billions of people at once? does he have a secutairy? btw |
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no. it requires an honest love. an honest love means you would do ANYTHING for the other party. not just say "are we cool?" |
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We live in a world of cause and effects. Everything thing that has happened in the history of the world had some sort of cause to make it occure. The big band is the original cause, the effect being the universe, but what was the trigger that caused the big bang to occure itself? |
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anon he wont listen he has "church deafness" |
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well i think he said girl in reference to your age (as opposed to woman). and i already know his answer. he is GOD, he knows EVERYTHING! |
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I can tell your only 15. Your arguments are very poorly organized and highly uneducated. |
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anon: is your mind so shrunken you cant even try to imagine being everywhere at once? come on! i thought about this stuff when i used to do drugs... this isnt a new idea here. stretch that head just a tiny bit. |
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hmmm age doesnt really matter but maturity does and I apologize for sounding like an idiot but with quotes like "I feel tibbar should die a slow agonising death involving tooth picks thru vital organs , and hot tarr....... but thats just me." how serious do you want to be taken??? |
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I told you so |
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the big band, what a funny typo. i am thinking dixieland here. |
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010101: say what you like, but i DID elaborate beyond my "church deafness" if that means having a vocabulary beyond "you shud die" and trying to think BIG |
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Love is much sung about - much sought after and much misunderstood. It is too often associated with plain liking and getting what one wants. "I love ice-cream and want one. True love is unselfish - compassionate. There is no sense of separation between the lover and the loved. This is union - communion. Love is not about personality or personal preferences and when we can love those people we don't like then we are truely capable of love. In love there lies great freedom - self is no more. peace! |
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raimons, well said. |
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And I feel very bad as I know our public education system probably won't be able to help you very much. My suggestion is think alot more about what your saying before you say it if you want to be taken seriously. Do yourself a favor and read all of your posts in this thread. Then pretend that those posts were from somebody else, somebody with opposing viewpoints to yours and see if you would take them seriously. |
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amen to that raimons! |
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It wasn't a typo. I was talking about the Beatles (the only real gods I've actually seen) ;p |
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i dont want to be taken seriously, why would i?it doesnt matter whta you think of me one bit because i dont know any of you!why would i give a second thought to what you think of me? see the thing is , you get people on here say 'oh you shouldnt say that you're going to staert an argument' blah blah , i dont really care.... if you're so mature and im so immature then do the mature thing and ignore me.... ? from another point of view: im in a very bad mood , to the point where my shoulder keeps twitching and i cant really move my left arm very well cause the shoulder mucels are too tense and i hate religion so this isnt a good subject for me.Plus tibbar is a prick.<--- full stop. |
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So how many in this world is christian ? I don't know but lets make up a number ....45% ? Are the remaining 55% going to hell ? |
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Why doesn't god overt bad things happening? |
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Did god make Cancer? |
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i don't know. why dont you call him up. |
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