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Night every one who's going to sleep. |
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I changed my mind - there is a God and his son and our saviour is Jesus Christ. I'm so happy that Jesus is in my heart that I'm going to share him with everyone! Do you know the good news about ? |
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Hey wait, that page doesn't work properly. THERE IS NO GOD!!!!!! |
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yes there is... |
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Dude! I appreciate that you're pretty reasonable on separation of church and state and all that. A lot of religious people are not... It's like this: I have a real fear that the world is drifing towards warring theocracies, with Islamic totalitarianism and redneck Christian totalitarianism in the US. I want to make Canada a safe haven for atheists to shoot hard drugs and eat the tender flesh of babies. |
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Oops, I meant Islamic totalitarianism in the middle east, not in the US. |
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Lets define God shall we? God = perfection does IT not? (I will refer to God as IT because thats exactly what IT is.) What is Perfection? Balance. Total balance, with nothing more important than anything else. This is our universe. A perfect balance, no point in the universe is favored among any other point, all points are equal as the universe functions everywhere at once. Sadly humans think that some things are more important than others, money and religion are two big ones. This throws things out of balance, how? Thoughts become actions, and actions have effects. Now because things aren't balanced we have sorrow, anger, hate, lust, greed, etc... So I guess my point is, humanity needs to rebalance itself and Christianity (or any other organized religion) will not solve this problem, because these organized religions favor certain things over others. |
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You favor balance over other things, so yours is not a True Path. |
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i have no beef with religion or religious people... ...but it is not unreasonable to predict that religion will become obsolete in a matter of time. |
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i was born in a world with the word 'God' in full use, so i realized a definition for it: the self. a human being is composed of a body, a mind, and a soul. the soul is simply all life - the entire entity that creates us. our minds are formed and developed by it, and our bodies function with our mind. like the foundation of most religions, that from one source all things depend (Mankind --> the Cosmos --> God), we exist - a body, based on a mind, based on a soul, or The soul, or Life. our selves are each of our existences. religion is a way of understanding this existence in the easiest way possible. |
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I do not favor it, I accept it. |
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Balance is just a word to describe something, I have no other way of discussing it, without using the word Balance. |
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How do you know that what you perceive as imbalance is not just a counterweight on a scale too vast for you to perceive? |
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Imabalance is a counterweight. Its a state of being when Balance is not currently being achieved. You cannot have balance without imbalance. You cannot have perfection without imperfection. |
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Somewhere in DOWNTOWN BURBANK a prostitute is OVERCOOKING a LAMB CHOP!! |
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indeed she is... indeed... |
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roygbiv |
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i was watching a lonely playnet show about south states of US - and there was something said about how they practice their religion (it looked really scary)...btw, they were baptists...anyway they showed how their ritual looks like...it seemed like they were all in trance and they were dancing with this rattle snakes and drinking their poison (which is deadly btw), because they apperantly belive that the snake or the poison wont hurt them because god is in them...and the preacher looked pretty scary as well... wicked stuff :) |
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You can drink rattlesnake venom as long as you have no cuts in your mough or ulcers in your stomach. It's when it gets directly into your bloodstream that it's harmful. I think more Christians should be encouraged to handle serpents! |
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*mouth |
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i know i wouldnt drink that...even if it tasted good... |
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Not even if it tasted like a hot fudge sundae with extra whipped cream and cherries? |
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hmm, well if there wasnt anything else left...then perhaps...but rather not |
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I took the time to read over many of the posts on this thread, although I regret not being around before. Let me say upfront that I am a christian, although I have not always been. I do not believe that faith is a blind leap in the dark, but is based on evidence. At a point in time I was probably as skeptical if not hostile to christianity as many of you are. I can now proudly say that I love the Lord with all my mind, heart and spirit and that no one brainwashed me into believing this. Although it was not evidence that initially brought me to Christ it is evidence that has strengthened my belief it it's truth. I want to take the time to read over some of the previous posts and see if I can address some of your questions, issues, complaints etc. If anyone has anything they want to ask about christianity please ask and if I don't know the answer I will find it out for you. |
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When will Christianity fade away? |
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"I think more Christians should be encouraged to handle serpents! " hmmm, so you have a death wish for Christians then? Real nice... |
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serious questions, please |
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What?! I'm saying you should have the opportunity to prove your faith in God, and possibly to meet him sooner. This is wrong? |
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Aside from my rude comments, I'd like to state that I think way too many people take themselves way to seriously. Meanwhile humanity is so fucked at the moment... we could be fixing it, but everyone is trying to find religion, forcing their beliefs upon others, getting greedy, lying to their children, etc... People need to lighten up about their beliefs: You have to admit, no matter what your belief is, beliefs are really silly, and should be accepted for what they are, beliefs. Just because you believe something doesn't make it true, it just makes it real... for you... and thats the only person that matters when it comes to religion. |
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Didn't Jesus die for politcal reasons? |
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issue one: science and christianity do not go hand in hand. Actually out of all of the holy books the bible is the one book that is able to make statements about the universe that can only be verified in modern times by science. For instance the bible claims that God 'stretches forth the heavens.' Interestingly enough the universe is expanding so this statement is accurate. Also the bible claims that the early earth was composed entirely of water, so does science. Isaiah says the God has "hung the earth over nothing" .. so much for a flat earth. God asks Job is He knows the 'way' in which light exists. Interestingly enough light does exist in a 'way' rather than a 'place'. |
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Jesus died as a sin offering for huminity. He lived the perfect life in our place because we could not, and then took on sin in our place. Everyone deserves hell because everyone has sinned. God, in his love, offers a way out. |
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BTW the serpent handling thing comes from Acts where the apostle Paul is bitten by a venemous serpent and miraculously does not die. The idea that this should be some sort of ritual is ridiculous. |
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My mother loves me and would not have me tortured for eternity, no matter what I did. Are you saying that my mother has more compassion and love for me than your God? |
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Um "hung the earth over nothing" doesn't mean the earth was round. A perfect God doesn't need to ask questions. He knows everything. Isn't it also true that Bible has been burned, edited, and gone changes through so many different languages, over so many thousands of years... that maybe, just maybe, the original meaning of the Bible has been lost over time? Jesus died because he was nailed to some 2 by 4. Whatch me now, here I go: Weatheredstoner died as a sin offering for humanity. He lived the perfect life (smoking weed and listening to music all the time) in our because we could not, and then took on sin in our place. See anyone can die for humanity, and the requirements are real simple: you have to be mortal. If God created everything, he created Satan also. Yet the Bible states that the CHRISTIAN GOD is good. Obviously we can see he is not ENTIRELY GOOD. Again the Bible is in error because a perfect God has a perfect balance of Good and Evil. Everyone deserves hell because everyone has sinned. God, in his love, offers a way out. |
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If you dont obey your mothers 10 magical rules, you will suffer for eternity. |
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well, if you murder someone you will go to prision or be executed... doesn't mean your mother doesn't love you, just means that's the price that has to be paid... |
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What does that have to do with the nature of the hypothetical Christian God? |
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Every action has a reaction. Which science has also proven. Which is another argument for a perfect balance God, which the Bible clearly does not want, they want their God to be only GOOD. |
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well it means that there is a price to be paid... but it says in the bible that that price is unneccesary, all you have to do is ask God into your heart... |
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Issue two: if God is all good and all powerful, how can He let evil, sickness death etc. in the world. We live in a world that is cursed because of Adams sin, therefore sickness and death are allowed as part of the natural order of things. God has ordained the placement and circumstances of all people so that they should seek Him, although many rebel. The presence of evil, sickness and death should be a constant reminder to people that they cannot save themselves in any sense of the word. Therefore we look to Him because through Him death has no power over us and we will be raised gloriously into a world where there will be no evil, sickness or death. Those who reject his love will be raised into a world where there will be only evil, sickness and death, and those things which God gives you, but perhaps you take for granted, such as love, happiness, peace etc. will be no more. In other words in this life there is a little bit of both heaven and hell. By accepting or rejecting Christ we decide what we will inherit for all eternity. I have to sign off for now but I hope to pick this up later. |
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You're a real fucking nut. |
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Not exactly "unconditional love" is it? All Abraham had to do was attempt to gut his son in order to win God's love. |
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The Bible says the earth is flat, that does not go hand in hand with science. |
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BTW the manuscript evidence we have for the Bible is excellent, and has been extremely well preserved. Yes, there are many different translations, but that only gives us a stronger base for understanding what the bible says because they do not contradict one another, but only maybe say it in a different style which lends to a broader understanding of the text. Anyway, bbl. |
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"Issue two: if God is all good and all powerful, how can He let evil, sickness death etc. in the world." and about this, why does God get the blame for it? God gave mankind their own free will... we make our own choices, thus I personally believe that all the suffering in the world is not God's fault, but our own... we kill our own kind, we steal, new technology that we have discovered is destroying the world, blah blah blah... but, God is there to help... and again I say, all you need to do is ask... |
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It's always a good time to post . |
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I would like to know, quite seriously, when the last time was that ANY biblical-literalist-creationist won a Nobel prize in ANY field. Also, has anyone ever won for any work that patently supports a major creationist principle, as opposed to the "evolutionary" view of the nature of the world? Science produces fact. The Bible, is just a book. |
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Evolution is far from scientific fact. I would say that it more closely resembles propaganda. Where are the transitionary forms in the fossil record? How do we explain convergence? What about biological systems where there is a codependancy on two or more different traits that could not exist without each other and could only exist having been brought about at the same time? |
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Holy shit I laughed so fucking hard when I read that. Perfect. |
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