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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-05-17 09:45 [#00702240]
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Okay now lets be clear on a few things. I dont hate christians. I do hate fundamentalism from any/all religions. I'm not a big fan of organized religion but because someone is part of an organized religion does not make them a bad person. Personally I do feel that they are a bit misguided.
That being said I turn your attention to a little site called christianburner.com Where I have been reading things on their messageboard and I am simply shocked at the christians trying to defend themselves there. The only conclusion I have reached is this: brainwashing. Pure and simple brainwashing and conditioning. But whats really scary is that these type of christians are everywhere in the world, and many of them hold high political office *cough*bush*cough*. And I am seriously worried about the fate of humanity due to these people. Sometimes I feel so hopeless because I try to talk to these people and its like trying to explain nuclear bionics to a 2 year old. And I do realize that I should just leave them alone and just wait for them to slowly dissapear but I dont see that happening any time soon. They recruit more and more everyday, some use the TV, others prey on the convicted felons in prision, more prey on the hospitalized. I'd like to ignore the problem but ignoring things doesn't help.
So whats your comments on all this?
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-05-17 09:53 [#00702243]
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a persons faith is their own business. anyone who pursues it for the right reasons (lets say, seeking to be the best person they can) has my full respect.
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-05-17 09:57 [#00702246]
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im not gonna look at the site, i am a Christian in that i beleive in Jesus, but i dont go to church or anything like that....and i dont see why anyone would make religion their whole life...people should just live their life and do good things no matter what they beieive will happen to them after they are dead...
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-17 10:00 [#00702248]
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Yeah its scary stuff. They are not free thinkers anymore. I have been visiting alot of christian sites too and sometimes its hard to belive its real , it looks like a big joke. And these christians who sing about joy (in monotone voices) seems to be the most lifeless booring people of all.
Poor bastards! I too hope that all this will fade away in a near future.
Thats why i love southpark so much , they really joke around and question alot of this stuff in a "Life Of Brian" kinda way.
For example check out what god looks like in south park . He is just this strange little animal that doesn't look like anything and everybody is really dissapointed when they see him "Is THAT god???" hahahahha!
Also check out this WARNING on "Southpark Bigger Longer & Uncutt"
click here Idiots!!
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nacmat
on 2003-05-17 10:00 [#00702249]
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...I dont believe in beatles ... I just believe in me
but my respect to the people, that as my family have a deep believe in a further life
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 10:15 [#00702261]
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well, I personally get the feeling from you that you do hate Christians... you seem so dead against Christianity... but not just that, but the people who believe Christianity... who cares? Let them live the way they want... you say
"Sometimes I feel so hopeless because I try to talk to these people and its like trying to explain nuclear bionics to a 2 year old."
it sounds like you're trying to show them the "right" way... that their beliefs are wrong... well, they believe they're right... they beleive YOU'RE wrong... so, why not just leave them alone... I've grown up in a Christian home, and personally I believe in Jesus and God, and the Bible... and I believe that people who don't believe this are wrong... just my feeling... but I don't go pushing it on people... so why must you push your dislike of Christianity on them?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-05-17 10:17 [#00702263]
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Check the forums @
http://www.stormfront.org
They are worse....
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-17 10:19 [#00702265]
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Wow! i like that "Valdius" guy on the christian burner forum.
He kicks butt! =)
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-17 10:22 [#00702267]
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A child was graphically incinerated by igniting his flatulence, then another kid tried to beat out the flames with a stick and was concerned about the stick catching fire.
I really must see that movie one of these days. Hysterically funny review.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 10:22 [#00702268]
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seriously, I get so fucking annoyed at this crap... atheists go around thinking they have everything figured out, when they're as ignorant as everyone else... you don't have anything figured out... you're relying on faith as much as anyone...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 10:23 [#00702271]
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and really, why is believing in God such a stupid thing? It's just as valid as not believing in God...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 10:23 [#00702272]
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atheists are really the most intolerant people around, from what I've seen and experienced...
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-17 10:27 [#00702273]
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and really, why is believing in God such a stupid thing? It's just as valid as not believing in God...
Believing that Ed Gein is God is just as valid as believing that He is not God.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2003-05-17 10:27 [#00702275]
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Yeah but the thing is i think we are talking about these hardcore christians now that are slowing down the evolution of earth , not the normal healthy believers like yourself.
Atleast thats how i interpretated it ?
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nacmat
on 2003-05-17 10:28 [#00702277]
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isnt that being too generalist?
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 10:29 [#00702278]
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well, from what I've seen and experienced they are... I don't think that really classifies all atheists as that... well, I never meant to do that, just meant to say that atheists I've known are really intolerant to christians...
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-17 10:30 [#00702279]
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www.persecution.org www.infowars.com
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nacmat
on 2003-05-17 10:33 [#00702282]
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there are nice and bad people everywhere
nice and bad christians nice and bad atheists
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-17 10:38 [#00702286]
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i'm atheist but i know many polite and well-intentioned people who are Christians.
although people may have different beliefs from you, they have the right to hold their own beliefs, no matter how much you disagree, and that applies to all religions.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 10:42 [#00702291]
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"although people may have different beliefs from you, they have the right to hold their own beliefs, no matter how much you disagree, and that applies to all religions. "
nod, exactly...
nacmat: nod, you are right obviously... I apologize for my comment... for the wording of it, and possible misinterpretation... I never meant any harm... I just get angry though, when I see people picked on, or made fun of, for their beliefs... so, I'm really sensitive to that kind of thing...
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mimi
on 2003-05-17 10:45 [#00702292]
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not everyone who isn't christian is an atheist
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2003-05-17 10:47 [#00702294]
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If God commanded me to kill I would kill
[ ] yes
[ ] no
[ ] :: squirm ::
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nacmat
on 2003-05-17 10:51 [#00702298]
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I am not atheist
I was educated in a religious school (only for boys) my family as I said before are christians, church goers ones.
but after many thoughts to it, many talks, many nights, many years... I just dont see a God anywhere... so I am agnostic (if the word exists in english)
I wish there was a life after this one... but I just dont believe that could happen
I think I am all phisics and chemistry... no soul, no spirit... just some crazy animal who thinks to be better than other species of animals
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 10:54 [#00702311]
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well, not that I said you were atheist or that anyone was, but atheism is the belief that God, or gods do not exist...
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2003-05-17 10:57 [#00702318]
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actually i'm more of an agnostic too
atheist wasn't the proper word for me to use
your english is getting better ;)
atheists tend to have a firm belief that there is no God, whereas agnostics firmly believe that it is uncertain.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 10:58 [#00702320]
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"atheists tend to have a firm belief that there is no God, whereas agnostics firmly believe that it is uncertain."
nod, ok... I never really knew the specific difference there... I can definitely appreciate that, as it's all uncertain...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-05-17 10:59 [#00702322]
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yeah it's rreally strrange.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2003-05-17 11:01 [#00702329]
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this music has me moving my hand around in front of the screen hey
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Bob Mcbob
on 2003-05-17 11:01 [#00702330]
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i dont like the title of this topic 'the christian plague'...
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 11:03 [#00702332]
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no, niether do I... nor does the name of the site "christianburner.com"... really can't take it seriously with a name like that...
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-05-17 11:06 [#00702336]
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i do
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-05-17 11:07 [#00702337]
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it attrracts attention. i don't say i agrree with it
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wilcoooo
from Sydney (Belgium) on 2003-05-17 11:14 [#00702356]
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i am not against religious people but i dont like the fact that religion is the reason for many wars or terrorism attacks
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-17 11:16 [#00702362]
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I goddamn hate religion,it sucks i mean okay if u wanna beleive theres someone up there watching out for you - ok .But to think you have to take time out of your life etc and live a certain way to please this made up person - bah.
but i wont continue - last time i was bitching about religion i came near to wanting to kill you all and you all wanted to kill me.....
:D i should have my fingers chopped off.
-A-
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-05-17 11:17 [#00702364]
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man that southpark warning is stupid
those hardcore christians suck, as well as all other religions
a religion based on restricting peoples lives/telling them what to do cant be right.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-05-17 11:19 [#00702365]
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"a religion based on restricting peoples lives/telling them what to do cant be right. "
so I guess you're against laws and rules too huh?
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-05-17 11:20 [#00702367]
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anon: you are so right
i was about to type how the bible and some other religious books are a load of cock cheese...
and weatheredstoner: the increase in christian activity is prolly because of the tension there is in the world nowadays, people then turn to religion because it makes them feel less uncomfortable
thats all only my humble opinion tho...
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-05-17 11:22 [#00702370]
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that aint religion
my point is, that for example telling people not to go to work on sunday because it'll piss God off aint good
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-17 11:35 [#00702393]
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Religion is an institution made to teach people to give up reason and trade it in for dogma that is not based on reality, but imagination, falsities, and myth. And altruism is a sick and sad concept.
An interesting point about the kind of people that are Christians. What kind of religion is so appealing to recovering alcoholics, convicted felons, etc? Doesn't sound like my kind of deal...
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-17 11:36 [#00702396]
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*hugs JAroen* u rule.
-A-
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-05-17 11:44 [#00702413]
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having just returned from rome where i saw some churches i'd like to add this too
christianity as we know it now is a collection of storys, tales and customs blended together to suit the needs of ppl in command of the country. with a little luck, a great part of the world would follow the mythras-cultus now...
and if you look at the idiotic amout of time and money put in to establishing the catholic empire... just makes me feel bad
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-05-17 11:45 [#00702416]
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"man that southpark warning is stupid"
haha funny ain't it
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-05-17 11:48 [#00702423]
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the WISDOM part made me both laugh and feel sorry for the hypocritical losers who made that site
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-17 12:10 [#00702476]
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i don't like the site christianburner.com thre's a lot of bullshit there and i think this site is brainwashing. why the fuck are they trying to change people ?
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mappatazee
from ¨y¨z¨| (Burkina Faso) on 2003-05-17 12:12 [#00702487]
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That site is great.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-17 12:13 [#00702490]
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i've said it before, i'll say it again... close the thread.
i dont see any anti-buddhist or anti-anything else for that matter threads on here.
stop blaming Christ for your problems.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2003-05-17 12:13 [#00702491]
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besides i think religion sucks, too. but this thread is just trying to get attetnion cause this shit was so often talked about.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-05-17 12:14 [#00702495]
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that site is bollox... forcing people to leave their beliefs is wrong, shit like this works the wrong way.. people have to stop believing themselves this only gives more shit
it has to be said tho that there are a lot of good christians too, not forcing their beliefs on anyone and all
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anon
from ^_^ (United Kingdom) on 2003-05-17 12:15 [#00702498]
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blaming christ for our problems?! ive never blamed him for anything cause he's not real *confused*
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2003-05-17 12:16 [#00702504]
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funny how is existance is documented in so many places then, innit?
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