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like i said before, some people in here think more of themselves than they rightly should. |
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err this has turned into a bit of an idiotic thread |
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turned into? |
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sorry, i'm an idiot, i don't follow what you're saying... |
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directed towards tibbar.. |
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what dont you understand about what i am saying? |
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seems like a lot of people think they have it all sussed out dont flatter yourselves! |
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I don't understand what you are trying to say with god being pro choice etc etc. |
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some people dont realise that we are all always spiritual infants... there is no "enlightenment" because the more we learn, the more questions there are. |
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well even if mimi didn't mean (the way we took it) the religious people in power comment, what you said tibbar is true, most in power are non religious |
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God is in support of humans having freedom of choice. it is well documented in the Bible. of course, there ARE chjoices he opposes. but you still have your freedom to make the choice, dont you? |
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when did tibbar ever say he had it all figured out? infact when did anyone say that? |
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Well its a damn slow process compared to science. |
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The thing that annoys me most about Christians is that they want public policy (education, legislation, health care, etc.) to be based on their delusions. And you can't talk to them about it. It's like trying to discuss gynecology with people who think the stork brung 'em. |
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okay if that was in response to my bewilderment i give up on trying to follow your train of thought. anyhow, my point is that i prefer important relationships to be with people who share my values. |
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this reminds me of how God treated pharoah... he gave pharoah the strength to do what he wanted... he didn't oppose pharoah, he didnt stop him, he let him do what he wanted... he, in fact "hardened his heart", strengthening him to do his own will. of course, his will lead to his death. |
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okay nevermind i see where you are clarifying things for me. |
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but i guess that is just based in silly brainwashed delusion, right? just a fairy tale for us goons. |
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really if we didnt have the choice, all of us would be the brainwashed people you speak of. |
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Ask yourselves this: what are the things that are true no matter what you believe? Those things are the truth. What are the things that are only true as long as you have faith in them? Those things are bullshit. |
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I think we all should give each other a hug and say "oh, youre all so nice, I love ya" and stop beung scared of doing wrong. If you have a problem, let's say youre depressed. Ask yourself. Why am I depressed? What is the reason to it? Why did it happen? and how can I learn to handle the feeling. LOVE DUDE! |
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well, don't worry, i'm not worried about some god taking away my choices, tibbar. i was referring to legality of choices. |
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well, here where I live we recently (a few years ago) had religion taken out of schools... I agree with it... I don't think it should be part of an institution that you are required by law to attend... I believe if you want religion, you go to church or whatever... so, I am a Christian (I guess) yet I do think it should be separate from school and the like... |
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ill say it for the millionth time, a God doesnt NEED humans to believe in him to make him real... but you NEED God to make you real... |
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AAuugh. |
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this conversation has gotten WAY sloppy, no one is even listening anymore. |
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and if it is the case that most politicians in office share my values, then i am glad, i really haven't done much research on that factor. |
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points toward the spirit being eternal i think jupitah posted a real interesting conclusion regarding this he asked whether we thought consciousness happened as the result of an 'event' or whether we thought there was no event specifying the conception of consciousness this implies that if consciousness and 'hence' a spirit are eternal, then it would follow that these are things which flow beyond physical birth and death.. encompassing concepts of an afterlife.. or even reincarnation. i thought it was an excellent angle. doesnt exclude possibilities as being false, rather supposes what cant be perceived by us in our current situations :) |
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these are the same people bombing trade centers and killing babies in oklahoma... so support that if you like, but if there IS justice in the universe, that system will burn. |
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What are the things that are only true as long as you have faith in them? Those things are bullshit so everything you believe in you have seen??? |
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That is ridiculous. Nothing needs God. |
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you can group people in whatever way you want to support whatever your perspective is though. that really doesn't mean anything. |
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map: if you didnt have a God in this universe who cared for you, you would collapse in a dead heap RIGHT NOW. |
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wow, tibbar and mappatazee sure are making some sweeping conclusions. |
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oh that wasnt directed At tibbar. it was posted in reference. i think id be agreed with in what i said. i see it all the time. there are those who will take into consideration a pursuit of spirituality, and those who will just fob it off. i want to be the former kind of person.. deep down i really want to live |
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or, mimi, i can see inter-relations between existing principles.... either way, im just a crazy brainwashed god-boy to most of you. |
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and theres nothing sweeping about God's scope. he is. he was. he will be. he'll be God forever, with or without you or i. |
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*vomits* |
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No tibbar I wouldn't. I am supported by biological and physical processes that can all be observed. There is no God found in any part of me. You are misguided, and I dare to say, an idiot. |
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perhaps im slow could you explain this statement better for me please sir? |
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i don't think that you are brainwashed, i just don't really agree with you. it isn't a big deal. |
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hateful, arent we? i thought you felt sorry for me? guess not. you guys always show your true colors eventually. |
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thats directed at map, btw |
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Yeah, actually I do wish I could slap that ugly face of yours right now. But it won't change anything. |
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nope, actually it's directed at "you guys" |
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so you are a liar, then. |
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now really, there is no point in name calling, all that does is make your opinion look invalid again i say just because you dont agree with someone does not mean they are less intelligent or underneath you...... |
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because i recall you mimicking my answer, saying you felt pity. so you pity people by slapping them around and insulting them, eh? |
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i really don't think that mappatazee is a representation of all non-believers.... |
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Yeah, I hate you now because you're such a snotty little kid. I hate snotty little kids. |
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