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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 11:58 [#00255605]
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recoba is actually one of my favourite players-tho its true about him beeing little selfish, but i just love the way he plays-really very technical player
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-08 12:08 [#00255612]
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Well there goes the myth about Italy's defence.. Only Brazil have yet to undermine their high esteem amongst the favourites..
This world cup is amazing !!!
Italy will still qualify, they should have won today, and at least one of the disallowed goals should have stood... 2-2 would have been fair, and Totti's freekick !!! The slow-motion shows the goalkeeper half-reaching/waving for the ball as it goes across the line behind him, it is a great football moment !!
nac> I enjoyed your review, and this IS a great thread, & the best action is yet to come :)
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-08 12:11 [#00255613]
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Lots of shocks so far..
BUT> can China beat Brazil ???
NO!!!!!!! I predict 5-0
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 12:12 [#00255614]
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this is bad news for spain cos now we can encounter Italy before we had expected... probably in 1/4 finals if they dont finish 1st of their group, if they finish 1st then the most probably is that we encountered them in 1/2finals (if we reached there)
I think italy scored and the referee said it wasnt legal, but it really was...I am sorry woofer
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-08 12:15 [#00255616]
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No, its the linesmans fault on both occasions, the referee has to trust his linesmen, and that linesman was very dodgy, just look at his haircut
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 12:15 [#00255617]
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i hope this defeat is going to force italy to focus on attack-i mean they have inzaghi,del vecchio and del piero sitting on the bench
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 12:17 [#00255618]
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im sure the first goal by vieri was regular
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-08 12:21 [#00255621]
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can anyone tell me..tolstoyed perhaps..
Is Montella injured ?
I prefer him to Inzaghi/Del Piero/Delvecchio
but I didn't hear, he is out yes ?
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-08 12:22 [#00255622]
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Chinas odds are 20-1 to beat Brazil.. I still don't fancy them !
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 12:22 [#00255623]
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for last match on this round:
if france doesnt win they are out if argentina doesnt win they are out and italy has it difficult too...mexico is not bad at all
brazil may have it easy
germany still has a difficult match to qualify, they could be out too if they loose with camerun...
so...
o, and portugal, they have it really hard too.
this is a fantastic world cup, (more for the results than for the quality of the football they are playing though)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 12:25 [#00255626]
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i was wondering about montella myself- as i see he was chosen fer the team-but i haven't actually noticed him on the bench
im sure woofer would know more about that
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 12:28 [#00255628]
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i feel the same about the last two lines you wrote hehe i hope we'll watch better football in games to come
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 12:46 [#00255644]
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1-0 brazil does carlos ever has a bad day? i don't think so
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 12:52 [#00255651]
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he is a great player...in real madrid he scores so many times...its incredible for a defender
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 13:02 [#00255662]
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rivaldo....goooaaall
2-0
and counting
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 13:07 [#00255665]
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are there any players not scoreing in real madrid? hehe that's why i like them so much-everyone is atacking-well except cesar-perhaps next season he will start as well
hehe
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 13:16 [#00255672]
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is barcelona any popular in slovenia?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 13:18 [#00255674]
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im sure it is its popular all over world i think
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 13:19 [#00255675]
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brazil is looking strong-and i think they only play with half of strenghth
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 13:20 [#00255676]
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*strength
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 13:20 [#00255677]
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3-0
off toppic:
a 18 years old boy died yesterday during the celebrations for the english victory in england....how sad, and how ridiculous
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 13:27 [#00255678]
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i can't understand why things like that are happening couple of days ago i watched a documentary about english hooligans and i was pretty much shocked-it seems they are not enjoying the football game-they are actually just looking for a fight
tho i don't know if this situation had anything to do with them
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 13:44 [#00255680]
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4 - 0
ronaldo
brazil is the only team to come up to my expectations, although they have an easy group
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 13:47 [#00255681]
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i like barcelona myself-though i think they should get couple of quality defeders
because i think its their weakest side. and i would also like to see xavi playing some more
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 13:48 [#00255682]
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did u hear about ronaldo-that he might be leaving inter i hope he stays there
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 14:25 [#00255689]
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I want him back in barcelona...I would also like guardiola in my team.
I miss guardiola in spanish team
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 14:28 [#00255690]
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is there any chance that guardiola returns
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 14:37 [#00255700]
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no, I dont think so...he might go to la roma or even Inter, as capello and cuper showed great interest in him
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 14:39 [#00255701]
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i would like to see him play for inter
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-08 14:45 [#00255713]
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how come he doesn't play for spain
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 14:50 [#00255722]
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he is injured
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 15:54 [#00255801]
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so far this players have impressed me very much:
-korea: I dont know their names, but I know some of them were quite good.
-senegal: diouf -denmark: tomasson -spain: de pedro -brazil: ronaldo, cafu, roberto carlos -usa: donovan -germany: ballack, klose -ireland: duff -sweden: larsson -italy: vieri -japan: inamoto
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nacmat
on 2002-06-08 19:46 [#00256049]
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-brazil: ronaldo, cafu, roberto carlos maybe this is too much... but surely ronald is doing great... what I most admire of brazil right now is that with these two defenders (cafu an roberto carlos) they attack a lot... and they still defend quite well, so this makes it so hard for the opponent, cos they have to defend from the sides and then they have ronaldo , rivaldo and ronaldinho attacking in the centre and even junhinho coming free... this means lots of people attacking, and thats so hard to stop, cos when you are to concentrated ondefending the centre then they come by the sides and if you try to stop them on the sides you leave too many free strikers in the centre...and they are ronaldo rivaldo and ronaldinho... too much... thats why brazil is so strong, but they make a big mistake, they all try to make their own great performance, instead of playing more as a team...if they did so, it would be very difficult to win them, cos they have also great defenders in the centre (lucio) and a solid middfielder (emmerson, though he is injured for the cup now) but as they are so individualist and they dont work as a unique team, they will find really haerd to win against strong teams (remember that they have only played against turkey and china so far.)
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-08 20:30 [#00256102]
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well brazil have lost my respect, i think. they acted like amateurs against the turks. not their play, but the way they treated them. they wouldn't even let the turks take their freekicks normally, they all came rushing forwards before the man even kicked the ball. and what rivaldo did was unforgivable. i hope they go out soon, and i expect so too, cause they aren't playing very effectively.
tomorrow will be aboring day for football with those matches :)
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 02:03 [#00256515]
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its true that what rivaldo did was so bad and embarrasing, I mean...how can a profesional act like that...but besides... I dont understand what do you mean about brazil´s attitude against turkey
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 11:10 [#00256809]
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mexico 2 ecuador 1
ecuador is another team to say goodbye, with slovenia, china, nigeria and arabia suadi.
I think ecuador could have done better.
turkey 0 costa rica 0 (still playing) if turkey loses...bye bye too.
first and second of this group could meet spain in 1/4 or 1/2 finals.
tremendous oportunity costa rica had right now...
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-06-09 11:22 [#00256811]
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Are you sure you are getting enough sleep Nacmat? You were here quite late last night....and its Sunday morning now!
Hehehe
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 11:24 [#00256812]
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well if you know that is because you were here too, so the same I should say to you...hehehe
turkey 1 costa rica 0
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-06-09 11:30 [#00256814]
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Not at all ! I read what you posted in my topic 'Its Late....' I left here at about 1.30am - you posted at 3.21am . . . when I read it this morning....
I'd hate to think you fell asleep at the keyboard...... hehehe!!
BTW: Turkey will win!
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 11:33 [#00256816]
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ok then, you are right I should get more sleep.
:-)
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-06-09 11:50 [#00256827]
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1-1 so far CRC-TUR
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 11:59 [#00256832]
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I am with costa rica... turkish dont do fair play (I am referring to champions league, cos here in the world cup they are acting nice, but I prefer costa rica anyway)
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-09 12:06 [#00256836]
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Interesting article in The Observer about Spains attitude to the world cup...
"...the World cup can only be seen via Digital, a satellite channel to which barely half a million Spaniards subscribe.
There is nothing dimly resembling a national supporters' club. According to Spanish journalists who were at Spains first game against Slovenia, there were only 50 Spanish-born fans at the stadium. Davis Albelda the Valencia midfielder talks about the ethusiasm of players and fans...' I play in a club side full of Argentine players and I see that they have a much stronger feeling for their national team...I think we can change, we have to'.
Spanish teams have always been carried to greatness by foreigners ; Cruyff, Maradona, Schuster, Romario, Ronaldo, Rivaldo, Figo and Zidane... This has translated for the fans into a curious mixture of club-based provincialism and a cosmopolitan admiration for alll foreign players wherever they might be from. And on the Spanish players' side, when it comes to the world atage, they have a certain lack of self-esteem. That was what Gaizka Mendieta meant when he said last week..'Italians always stand up for Italians first. Spaniards seem to be more interested in players from abroad.'
Raul , after the win against Slovenia, asked at the press conference if it was true that the streets were empty in Spain. An English, Italian, Brazillian or Argentinian player wouldn't need to ask. When told that , yes, the streets were empty, Raul was genuinely thrilled. Now he wants more empty streets, right up to the final."
The article tries to explain the background to Spains low standings in the tournaments history, but goes on to display a turning of the tide, a new belief that in Raul, Spain has a man who can lead the side beyond their history into a new era of success. Its a very good positive article and I feel much more interested in Spain all the time, I hope they go on, (but not at the expense of Ireland!)
It's crap that you can't all see the games. Every game is li
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-09 12:07 [#00256837]
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...live for free in England, I would riot if I had to pay :)
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 12:17 [#00256838]
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spanish public television didnt buy the rights so we have to fuck off... its shit, and I am only watching the matches 12 hours later they happen... but thats how it is...so what can i do?... about 50 spaniards only being in korea... well what can i say...we have bee frustrated so many times with our team that maybe we dont want to spend the money for nothing... that about not having a nation steem its true, but that changes with succes and it is truth that raul can change that...you see y am a barcelona fan, but i love raul when he plays for spain even though he is from real madrid... so this shows we are not that provincialists...anyway i get the point of the article...its clear that we dont feel the same towards our county team than what argentinians, english or italians do
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 12:18 [#00256840]
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but again I say...that will change with better reults... and look for spain in this championship...they can be the surprise
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Jedi Chris
on 2002-06-09 12:25 [#00256844]
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Poor Nacmat! You can come and watch it on my tv if you like!
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-09 12:29 [#00256848]
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I know you feel strongly, and all of Spain will too with success !!
Look at Ireland, before 1990 no history at all, no professional football league at all in Ireland, no supporters, nothing.
Now they have some of the best support in the world , they are very passionate and also very well behaved (but they needed Jack Charlton and now Mick McCarthy who are both English, and English players who have Irish Grandparents/Parents. There are quite a few in this squad..)
So thats what I mean, this could be THE moment for Spain , like the Berlin Wall coming down, landing on the moon, like 1966 for England :-)
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 12:31 [#00256852]
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hehehe that would be great...but you know, my work, my girl, my sun... anyway imagine a final spain - england and watching it all the .nu (those interested, such as smokethammer, toltoyed, woofer, you...) well woofer would prefer it with italy ...
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 12:34 [#00256855]
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well I dont want to be too happy now, cos I know spain can dissapoint me at any time...
you see, this is the problem
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