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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 11:07 [#00258170]
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portugal, argentina and france are 3 teams very strong, I thought they would pass without problems and maybe one or two of them will be out of the world cup soon.
germany cannot be too relaxed cos they can be out too, though they depend on theirselves but with a tough match ahead.
Italy is in a difficult situation, but they also depend on theirselves.
belgium is going 1-1 against tunisia
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-06-10 11:11 [#00258174]
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Go Belgium Go!
lol!
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 11:14 [#00258179]
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I gotta learn to do that...
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 11:27 [#00258188]
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one thing about spain:
we are all very hopefull about our team this time, we think we can get really further than ever in the world cup, but then I saw soem stadistics in the paper, the question was :- "do you think spain can win the world cup?"- the answer is 75% thinks NO.
this means we think we can do a great world cup, but for us a great tournament is to get to semifinal or to the final as much, we dont even think off winning when we talk about doing a great tournament.
this mentality is our problem. for any brazilian or italian, doing a great championship means winning it, getting to the final or semis is just a normal thing, and less than that is a disaster, while we leave very proud if we get to 1/4 finals....
spain has to change mentality if we want to get somewhere.
other point is, the difference of the meaning of the national team´s shirt for an argentinian, italian or a spanish
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-10 11:30 [#00258193]
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I think France is really in a bad situation.
France has onle 1 point and must win against the strong Denmark with at least 2 goals... gulp...
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 11:35 [#00258194]
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yea totally agree, they are about to go home... anyway one thing:
argentina in 1990 almost says goodbye in the first round, they qualified as best 3rd (the first 2 teams in each group qualified and the best two 3rds among all groups also) they looked very bad at that moment... well they got to the final after winning brazil and italy
this means we never know what will happen
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 11:45 [#00258200]
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Nombre Equipo MP MINP G A S SOG PG FK ITS IFS O KLOSE Miroslav GER 2 159 4 1 8 6 0 0 9 3 0 TOMASSON Jon Dahl DEN 2 180 3 0 4 4 1 0 15 6 2 VIERI Christian ITA 2 180 3 0 10 6 0 1 17 3 4 LARSSON Henrik SWE 2 180 2 0 5 2 1 1 24 4 1 RIVALDO BRA 2 180 2 1 6 4 1 0 13 3 1 MORIENTES Fernando ESP 2 69 2 0 4 3 0 0 1 2 0 RONALDO BRA 2 143 2 0 9 7 0 0 15 5 0 HIERRO Fernando ESP 2 180 2 0 2 2 2 0 1 1 0 INAMOTO Junichi JPN 2 174 2 0 3 2 0 0 7 4 0 RONALDINHO BRA 2 111 1 1 3 2 1 1 7 5 0 SANTA CRUZ Roque PAR 2 180 1 0 8 3 0 0 17 3 0 NOMVETHE Siyabonga RSA 1 70 1 0 1 1 0 0 7 2 0 RODRIGUEZ Dario URU 2 157 1 0 1 1 0 0 7 5 0 MBOMA Patrick CMR 2 141 1 0 6 2 0 0 4 2 2 RAUL ESP 2 180 1 0 7 4 0 0 21 8 2 ARCE Francisco PAR 2 180 1 1 4 4 0 4 3 0 0 CAMPBELL Sol ENG 2 180 1 0 2 1 0 0 0 1 0 BECKHAM David ENG 2 152 1 1 2 1 1 1 8 5 0 BETO POR 1 90 1 0 2 1 0 1 0 0 0 MC BRIDE Brian USA 1 90 1 0 2 1 0 1 5 6 2 CIMIROTIC Sebastjan SVN 2 74 1 0 2 1 0 0 7 2 0 YOO Sang Chul KOR 1 60 1 0 2 1 0 0 4 1 0 LINKE Thomas GER 2 180 1 0 2 1 0 0 3 1 0 BIERHOFF Oliver GER 2 40 1 0 1 1 0 0 3 2 0 HOLLAND Matt IRL 2 180 1 0 3 1 0 0 3 2 0 BELOZOGLU Emre TUR 2 180 1 0 4 3 0 3 11 7 0 KEANE Robbie IRL 2 180 1 0 6 4 0 1 15 3 0 TITOV Egor RUS 2 180 1 0 5 1 0 0 16 4 0 O BRIEN John USA 1 90 1 0 1 1 0 0 2 1 0 AGHAHOWA Julius NGA 2 180 1 0 1 1 0 0 11 3 5 BALLACK Michael GER 2 180 1 3 8 2 0 0 11 5 0 HWANG Sun Hong KOR 1 49 1 0 1 1 0 0 5 2 0 ROBERTO CARLOS BRA 2 180 1 0 4 2 0 3 4 0 3 OLIC Ivica CRO 1 34 1 0 1 1 0 0 3 1 0 DIOP Papa Bouba SEN 2 180 1 0 6 4 0 0 8 2 0 BORGETTI Jared MEX 2 143 1 0 4 2 0 0 15 0 0 VAN DER HEYDEN Peter BEL 1 90 1 0 1 1 0 0 4 0 0 VALERON Juan Carlos ESP 2 174 1 0 1 1 0 0 11 6 0 PARKS Winston CRC 1 14 1 0 3 1 0 0 2 0 0 SUZUKI Takayuki JPN 2 138 1 0 2 1 0 0 7 9 0 DIAO Salif SEN 2 169 1 0 3 3 0 0 3 2 0 MOKOENA Teboho RSA 2 180 1 0 3 1 0 0 12 6 0 ETOO Samuel CMR 2 180 1 1 5 3 0 0 15 1 0 FORTUNE Quinton RSA 2 173 1 1 2 1 1 2 9 9 0
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 11:46 [#00258204]
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SHIT
i thought it would be understandable... it was the list of the players with more goals scored
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 11:59 [#00258211]
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tunisia - belgium
1 -1
this makes it:
japan 4 rusia 3 belgium 2 tunisia 1
japan-tunisia rusia-belgium
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-06-10 12:03 [#00258213]
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...so I guess the chance that the Belgians can stay is pretty small.
my brother just told me they have to beat Russia . haha!
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 12:09 [#00258215]
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its quite possible that belgium beats rusia...I mean its not as if they had to win argentina...its quite possible indeed
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 12:20 [#00258218]
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dont you think korea deserved to win that match against usa???
I havent seen it, but everybody in the radio says they played better...is that true?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-10 13:03 [#00258243]
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yeah, korea had many chances and didnt take advantage of them.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 13:51 [#00258277]
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now they will have to fight against portugal for the qualification.
USA seems to have it done, cos I think they can win poland if they play as against portugal
so korea (which caused me a great impression) or portugal (a normal favorite to get to 1/4 at least, will probably be out next match.
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-10 13:55 [#00258279]
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portugal is well in control here.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 13:56 [#00258280]
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2-0
do you think they can win korea?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-10 13:58 [#00258282]
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big call.. but they have impressed me in this match!
i still dont know whos gonna win the cup.?!?!?
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-10 14:04 [#00258283]
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its pissing down with rain in the Poland vs. Portugal match.....
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-10 14:05 [#00258284]
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just as i speak! another Portugal goal, Poland will have to get packing tonight.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 14:21 [#00258292]
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pauleta scored 3 times...he failed so many times against usa...he had better done less today and more the other day
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-10 14:39 [#00258302]
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Hold the front page guys !!
Every side who won their opening game at France 98 qualified
Every side who lost their opening game failed...
Hosts have qualified for the second round at every world cup..
Portugal were better today, but honestly Poland gave the worst performance of any side other than Saudi Arabia today. Olisadebe is their star player and every pass of his went to a red shirt.
Unless Korea get scared (and they have no reason to), they will qualify alright.
I still back Korea to go through :)
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 14:46 [#00258306]
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I want korea to pass but also portugal...and that is I think, impossible
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-10 14:51 [#00258311]
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No nac, a draw puts both through if Poland bounce back and beat the USA , (not impossible)
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 14:52 [#00258314]
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NO.
in that case usa and portugal would have both 4 points but usa won portugal so...
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-10 14:53 [#00258315]
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If Nigeria beat England 2-1 And Argentina beat Sweden 1-0
that means ....Argentina qualify... AND for second place>
THE DRAWING OF LOTS !!!!!! AGGHHHHH !!!
Please God don't let that happen !!
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-10 14:58 [#00258319]
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Nacmat>
I think the rules are as follows >
1) Points 2) Goal difference 3) Goals scored 4) Results between tied teams 5) Goal difference between tied teams 6) Goals scored between tied teams 7) Drawing of Lots !!!
So> Portugal would qualify ahead of the USA on Goal Difference
Its different rules to the Euro champions league
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 15:01 [#00258322]
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are you absolutely positive about that???
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-10 15:06 [#00258324]
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YES ! I have the rules here , I'm 100%
And i think Poland will have more spirit against the USA, lets face it they can't get any worse
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 15:12 [#00258326]
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well I would love to see korea and portugal advancing... but still dont think portugal will win korea and neither will poland against usa... portugal will cry for loosing the first match...it happened to spain in 98, losing the first match is really dangerous
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-10 16:45 [#00258418]
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i think portugal is going to defeat korea and poland is going defeat usa
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-10 16:45 [#00258419]
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that is if referees won't have anything to do with it
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 17:17 [#00258447]
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I dont think korea says goodbye so soon... so maybe if the draw...and usa loses...
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-10 17:23 [#00258453]
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I think Poland will beat USA (or a good draw) and Portugal will beat Korea.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 17:49 [#00258506]
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France v. Denmark: Winner takes all since 1984 by FIFAworldcup.com Click to enlarge photo The stakes couldn't be higher when France play Denmark on Tuesday. But hey, what's new? Since 1984, the two sides have crossed swords on numerous ocasions, and incredibly, whenever they have met in an official tournament, the winner has gone on to capture the trophy. An amazing statistic, which currently stands three to one in favour of the French.
France 1-0 Denmark, 12 June 1984 In the opening match of the European Championships, hosts France faced a Denmark side packed with stars such as Preben Elkjaer-Larsen, Michael Laudrup and Morten Olsen. The hosts were hot favourites, however - after all, they had Michel Platini as their mentor and playmaker.
The quality of the two sides made for a tense encounter at the Parc des Princes, with France unable to give free rein to their creative talents. Manuel Amoros was red-carded for headbutting Jesper Olsen, whilst Allan Simonsen broke his leg after a harsh tackle from Yvon Le Roux.
Despite all this, if one man was going to find the back of the net, it had to be France's eternal saviour, and Platini it was who drilled the ball home in the 72nd minute. France were on the way to their first major tournament victory.
Denmark 2-1 France, 17 June 1992 In this third and final group match at Euro 92, the Danes, last-minute replacements for Yugoslavia, needed a victory to go through. A draw would have been enough for red-hot favourites France, who had won every one of their qualifiers and were spearheaded by Jean-Pierre Papin and Eric Cantona. Papin thought he had done enough when he equalised on the hour after a beautiful backheel from Jean-Philippe Durand inside the area, but a tense Tricolore team ultimately paid the price for their nervous play in the closing moments.
Flemming Povlsen sprung the offside trap and fed Lars Elstrup, who smashed the ball past Bruno Martini. Denmark were through, and with the emergence of "golden gloves" Peter Schmeichel,
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 17:51 [#00258508]
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Flemming Povlsen sprung the offside trap and fed Lars Elstrup, who smashed the ball past Bruno Martini. Denmark were through, and with the emergence of "golden gloves" Peter Schmeichel, went on to win their first (and only) international trophy.
France 2-1 Denmark, 24 June 1998 Unlike at Euro 92, there was little at stake for the last Group C match of the FIFA World Cup France 1998™. The hosts were already through, whilst the Danes only needed a point to make sure they were not relying on a South African victory over Saudi Arabia to progress. As a result, Aimé Jacquet gave his second XI a run-out against Denmark's regulars, and although the match never really took off, goals from Emmanuel Petit and Youri Djorkaeff sent the fans home happy.
Denmark still qualified for the second round, though, where as usual they upped their game, thrashing Nigeria 4-1, before being edged out 3-2 by Brazil in the quarter-finals. Les Bleus meanwhile, had a date with history, and their-ever first world championship success.
France 3-0 Denmark, 11 June 2000 The opening game for the two teams ended up as a mis-match. FIFA World Cup-holders France were red-hot favourites against a Danish team lacking its two main creative influences from the past decade- the Laudrup brothers.
The ever-surprising Scandinavians did make the better start, forcing Fabien Barthez into two world-class saves in the opening 15 minutes from Jesper Gronkjaer and Ebbe Sand, but Bo Johannson's men were soon rueing these misses. France got into their stride, and after Laurent Blanc opened the scoring after a quarter of an hour, slotting home the rebound after Nicolas Anelka's shot was saved, it was one-way traffic from then on. Thierry Henry doubled France's advantage after an incredible surge down the left flank, before Sylvain Wiltord made the match safe with a third. Denmark's Euro was short-lived, but the French, once again, would go all the way.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 23:11 [#00259047]
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this are the points so far (last number of each row) of all the teams in their groups.
who will qualify??
Equipo MP W D L GF GA Pts DEN 2 1 1 0 3 2 4 SEN 2 1 1 0 2 1 4 URU 2 0 1 1 1 2 1 FRA 2 0 1 1 0 1 1
GuÃa Grupo B SÃntesis | Noticias | Análisis Equipo MP W D L GF GA Pts ESP 2 2 0 0 6 2 6 RSA 2 1 1 0 3 2 4 PAR 2 0 1 1 3 5 1 SVN 2 0 0 2 1 4 0 GuÃa
Grupo C SÃntesis | Noticias | Análisis Equipo MP W D L GF GA Pts BRA 2 2 0 0 6 1 6 CRC 2 1 1 0 3 1 4 TUR 2 0 1 1 2 3 1 CHN 2 0 0 2 0 6 0 GuÃa Grupo D SÃntesis | Noticias | Análisis Equipo MP W D L GF GA Pts KOR 2 1 1 0 3 1 4 USA 2 1 1 0 4 3 4 POR 2 1 0 1 6 3 3 POL 2 0 0 2 0 6 0 GuÃa
Grupo E SÃntesis | Noticias | Análisis Equipo MP W D L GF GA Pts GER 2 1 1 0 9 1 4 CMR 2 1 1 0 2 1 4 IRL 2 0 2 0 2 2 2 KSA 2 0 0 2 0 9 0 GuÃa Grupo F SÃntesis | Noticias | Análisis Equipo MP W D L GF GA Pts SWE 2 1 1 0 3 2 4 ENG 2 1 1 0 2 1 4 ARG 2 1 0 1 1 1 3 NGA 2 0 0 2 1 3 0 GuÃa
Grupo G SÃntesis | Noticias | Análisis Equipo MP W D L GF GA Pts MEX 2 2 0 0 3 1 6 ITA 2 1 0 1 3 2 3 CRO 2 1 0 1 2 2 3 ECU 2 0 0 2 1 4 0 GuÃa Grupo H SÃntesis | Noticias | Análisis Equipo MP W D L GF GA Pts JPN 2 1 1 0 3 2 4 RUS 2 1 0 1 2 1 3 BEL 2 0 2 0 3 3 2 TUN
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nacmat
on 2002-06-11 00:06 [#00259149]
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any opinions on what willhappen tomorrow???
denmark - france ?? uruguay - senegal ??
germany - camerun ?? ireland - saudi arabia ??
methinks:
denmark - france.............. 1-2 uruguay - senegal..............1-1
germany - camerun...........3-2 ireland - saudi arabia.........2-0
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-11 07:25 [#00259831]
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The great day of France is came... between few minutes the match will start.
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-11 07:46 [#00259865]
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Next game France vs Denmark we may see weird thing..... it must deserve our attention.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-11 08:05 [#00259897]
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FRANCE-DENMARK=0-1 Gulp!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-11 08:22 [#00259906]
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france is wining-i love to see that
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-11 08:22 [#00259907]
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That's incredible... SENEGAL-URUGUAY=3-0!!!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-11 08:24 [#00259908]
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so uruguay is winning too? hehe
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-11 08:26 [#00259910]
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Group A: 1st. Senegal 2nd. Denmark
I can't believe to my eyes...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-11 08:27 [#00259911]
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its not over yet
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-11 08:34 [#00259912]
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HHHoly smoke!!!!! what a game.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-11 08:35 [#00259913]
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I just cant believe anything
anyway denmark is doing a great championship, so...
this is surrealistic anyway...senegal 3-1 to uruguay... totally crazy
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nacmat
on 2002-06-11 08:35 [#00259914]
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(congrats for japans championship)
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-11 08:36 [#00259915]
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it never occured to me that France may go to hell.
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-11 08:41 [#00259917]
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yeah totally crazy!! and thank you again for your praize congratulation for Spain too!! i wanna watch Raul's play more.
this world cup no one know what happened !!!!!!!!
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