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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 14:22 [#00256882]
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japan won 1 - 0 their first victory in history in a world cup final round. this world cup is being very weird in results.
inamoto is a very interesting player
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-09 14:31 [#00256884]
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i'm happy for 'em.. the russians sucked like there was no tomorrow.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2002-06-09 14:44 [#00256890]
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Yeah im happy for them to. They are fun to watch.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-09 20:07 [#00257186]
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Riots in Moscow after the game .. 1 dead, 8 injured , 3 serious ....
Apparently this was some kind of surprise result. Not to me, Japan were unlucky not to beat Belgium, they are hosts with home advantage, and Russia have done nothing at this level for over 15 years. I thought Japan would win. I hope that this is a one-off event and other audiences can take defeat more graciously, Although its not clear whether the police helped to incite the problems in Moscow, but they often do :(...
sorry to slur this thread with bad news but its relevant to the way the world reacts to the event
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 20:21 [#00257202]
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well one teen boy died in england after the match with argentina and they had won ...so...its really bad news and we should worry about this kind of reactions around football
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 22:51 [#00257439]
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this is a list of the best players of each match (this is a fifa official list):
-Viernes 31 mayo.
France-Senegal: El Hadji Diouf (Sen).
Ireland-Camerún: Matt Holland (Irl).
Uruguay-Denmark: Jon Dahl Tomasson (Din).
germany-Arabia SaudÃ: Miroslav Klose (Ale).
Argentina-Nigeria: Juan Verón (Arg).
Paraguay-South africa: Francisco Arce (Par).
england-Sweden: Sol Campbell (Ing).
spain-SLOVENIA: RAÚL (ESP).
Croatia-México: Braulio Luna (Méx).
Brazil-Turkey: Rivaldo (Bra).
Italy-Ecuador: Christian Vieri (Ita).
China-Costa Rica: Ronaldo Gomes (CRC).
Japan-belgium: Junichi Inamoto (Jap).
Korea-Poland: Yoo Sang-chul (CdS).
Rusia-Túnez: Yuri Nikiforov (Rus).
USA-Portugal: Brian McBride (USA).
germany-Ireland: Robbie Kean (Irl).
Denmark-Senegal: Khalilou Fadiga (Sen).
Camerún-Arabia SaudÃ: Samuel Etoo (Cmr).
France-Uruguay: Fabien Barthez (Fra).
Sweden-Nigeria: Henrik Larsson (Sue).
spain-PARAGUAY: FERNANDO MORIENTES (ESP).
Argentina-england: Paul Scholes (Ing).
South áfrica-slovenia: Quinton Fortune (Rsa).
Italy-Croatia: Milan Rapaic (Cro).
Brazil-China: Roberto Carlos (Bra).
México-Ecuador: Gerard Torrado (Méx).
Costa Rica-Turkey: Paulo Wanchope (CRC).
Japan-Rusia: Junichi Inamoto (Jap).
what do you think ....do you agree?
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plugexpert
from Nijmegen (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-09 22:58 [#00257443]
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nacmat ,.....you're the biggest football fan out here,......not?
Who do U think has most chance of winning the worldcup?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2002-06-09 23:00 [#00257446]
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i would pick france-that is if they qualify
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 23:06 [#00257450]
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if france qualifies they will become a possible winer, I was thinking of argentina and france before the world cup started, but now I think that brazil could do it... also Italy (the other day they lost but the referee had to do a lot there, cos italy should have won 3-2) germany maybe... and I wish spain was the surprise.
so far the only big team that has come up to my expectations was Brazil, and not even for their play, just for their results
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nacmat
on 2002-06-09 23:08 [#00257451]
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because of their game quality I was highly impressed by korea and denmark, but sadly I dont think they could do it
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-09 23:44 [#00257486]
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nacmat:
after the argentina-england game, it did spring to mind that there is a possibility of a spain-england final. tho i wouldn't be putting any money on it. in fairness, the italians were robbed, although perhaps a draw would have been a fair result ?? but the italians still seemed to have a lot in them, a lot of potential that was wasted in the match, so i still think they are a force to be reckoned with (provided they make it through to the playoffs). it'd be interesting to see how the sweden-argentina/england-nigeria games go. it almost seems inconceivable, but well possible for argentina not to make it through. korea-usa should be quite interesting to watch, as would poland-portugal, see if they can regain some form?
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maxx_damage
from La Paz (Bolivia) on 2002-06-10 00:25 [#00257584]
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Argentina is going to be the world champion, but football soccer is the most beautiful game in the world, i enjoy every game in world cup, here in my country live transmissions start at 2:30 am and ends, after 3 matches, at 9:30am, i didnt miss a match.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 00:28 [#00257588]
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I agree about Italy, they are really to be considered... cos they have such a solid defense (not last match though) and so much quality in the front line.
england still doesnt get my vote...they have good manners (sometimes) but I miss some players that didnt go to the cup.
argentina and above all france have it really hard to pass... france needs to win for over two goals against denmark (one of my favorites so far) so they can say good bye really too soon.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 00:30 [#00257590]
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bolivia was in USA 1994 they played against spain... do you remember...by the way, hola amigo como va eso?
you think argentina will win sweden?
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maxx_damage
from La Paz (Bolivia) on 2002-06-10 00:51 [#00257619]
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im sure abaut that, Argentina has the best team right now, and it was so disapointing to be out that fast, talking about usa 94.
Como anda, que tal, yo aqui practicando mi ingles.
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maxx_damage
from La Paz (Bolivia) on 2002-06-10 00:54 [#00257628]
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by the way ive been in Madrid and u live in a beautiful city, i could never forget El rastro for example, little things that make a city beautiful.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 00:59 [#00257640]
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I like sundays (sunny sundays in spring) when I go to el rastro in the morning and then I have some wine before going to eat... those are nice days in madrid
I am glad you liked it.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-10 01:03 [#00257654]
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Yeah ... agree with you .. i don't realistically think england will reach the final :) .. but who knows eh? Yeah, shame mcmanaman isn't in - he's such a cool player to watch, back in the day when he used to be in liverpool - hehe ..
I think argentina & italy are very strong teams, but its down to maths now .. if they get through, i think much of the talk before their losses will still apply ??
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 01:07 [#00257657]
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yes after losing their matches you come to wonder: is italy such solid in its defense??? is argentina such a compact team??? does argentina really have good solutions in attack??
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-10 01:18 [#00257676]
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it seems with teams like that (of that calibre) it always comes down to motivation and such psychological matters? but if they can get through, i think they will be better teams for it. croatia is the type of team that has the ability to upset though (seems a lot of teams in the world cup have this ability, senegal, usa :) .. wicked tournament to watch tho.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 01:22 [#00257683]
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croatia is the type of team that has the ability to upset though (seems a lot of teams in the world cup have this ability, senegal, usa :)
what do you mean with this?
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 01:26 [#00257685]
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KOBE, Japan (Reuters) - Injured England midfielder Owen Hargreaves is to have a scan on Monday to determine the extent of his shin injury, the Football Association (FA) has said.
Hargreaves, who had to be substituted after 19 minutes of Friday's 1-0 World Cup win over Argentina, underwent an x-ray on Saturday which revealed no fracture of the bone.
"He will have a scan to establish the seriousness or otherwise of the injury tomorrow," an FA spokesman said.
The outcome is vital for an England squad running short of fully-fit midfielders after two matches in group F.
Manager Sven-Goran Eriksson had already ruled Hargreaves out of Wednesday's final game against Nigeria, which England need to at least draw to be sure of reaching the second round.
That left the Swede with only four fully match-fit players for the four places in midfield -- former standby Trevor Sinclair, who replaced Hargreaves against Argentina, skipper David Beckham and Nicky Butt, both just back from injuries suffered late last season, and Paul Scholes.
Joe Cole is carrying a thigh problem which ruled him out of Friday's victory over Argentina, while Kieron Dyer, who has just overcome a knee injury, was kept on the substitutes' bench at Sapporo.
"Every time we have an injury it happens to a midfielder," Eriksson said at England's Awaji Island base on Saturday.
"I hope that will stop -- otherwise we will be running out of midfielders."
Since April, seven of the nine midfielders in the running for a place in England's World Cup squad have been hit by injury -- Hargreaves, Beckham, Dyer, Butt, Cole, Danny Murphy, who was sent home from their training camp in South Korea, and Steven Gerrard, ruled out of the finals before the squad left home.
Only Sinclair and Scholes have stayed fully fit throughout.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-10 01:27 [#00257689]
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while croatia weren't exactly favourites to win, they seem to be a type of team that have the ability to beat the best of the best. whilst not necessarily being 'the best themselves' ??
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 01:31 [#00257691]
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I get it... I think it happened with nigeria last world cup against spain...we were supposed to be better but they won 3-2 with a 3rd incredible goal from the distance by oliseh
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-10 01:40 [#00257696]
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that's the one !!
i meself am a dutch supporter, so i've had my fair share of upsets :) i guess like spain.
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 01:42 [#00257698]
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well netherlands should be here instead of some of those exotic nations with no football culture at all, but thats how it works... fifa prefers it this way rather than having the best teams in the competition....
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-10 01:49 [#00257705]
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:)
yes and no .. its pretty cool for some of these 'exotic' countries, and if anything will help develop or cultivate or something - those soccer cultures??
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 01:53 [#00257710]
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of course I am glad those countries have the oportunity to enjoy the party of football, and so they get into the culture, and we all learn a lot off far away coutries...but what I dont like is to see netherlands out of the party.
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korben dallas
from nz on 2002-06-10 01:59 [#00257715]
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:)
i totally second that .. *sighs* - they certainly would have added to the 'party' ..
what are your thoughts on today's matches .. korea/usa (this'll be a toughy), tunisia/belgium (belgium shouldn't struggle, but who knows), portugal/poland (portugal should win, but again, can't take anything for granted).
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 02:06 [#00257720]
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korea - usa: it will be a beautifull match cos they play so fast, always in the search of goeals, with some lacks of quality but with a huge effort, their inmature tactics will alow us to see a goos spectacle, but imposible to know who will win...I would bet for korea.
belgium - tunisia: no problem for belgium I think, but not a very "sunny" match
portugal - poland: I would bet for portugal, but who can trust them now? anyway they both have to win if they want to pass so the need of goals added to the individual quality of portugal will surely give us a nice match too
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-10 05:01 [#00257899]
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i can't believe japan won. it's no doubt that riot happened in rossia. and i recognized around the world people watched the world cup.
im looking forward to usa vs korea. they had a trouble for judgment issue in Salt Lake Olympic . People in korea hope that korea beat against usa to get their revenge.
maybe its will be a threat. Go Asia !! Go korea!!!
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-10 07:37 [#00258062]
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Hello friends... well, as you know Italy lost 2-1. My opinion? It was shame for 2 reasons:
1) Italy played a awful match... we can't play with only one striker (Vieri) against Croatia. We had INZAGHI, DEL PIERO and MONTELLA sit down as onlooker.
2) We had a f**kin' bad luck with the referee on the right that remove 2 regolars goals.
We deserved to win but we played a awful match.
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-10 07:51 [#00258069]
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newspaper say that best referee act as judgement. but watching Italy vs Slovakia and Brasil vs Turkey i doubt their remark
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-10 08:14 [#00258094]
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Yeah, I agree with you.
btw: Congratulations for your Japan, they won really well, yesterday.
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-10 08:29 [#00258099]
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thanks. even now i can't believe. they prove that developing country on football is not only Africa but also Asia.
in my view it is good for football.
fortunately, Itaky had bad luck. as you know ,they will start revenge with luck. i hope Italy's fantastic play is watched more in Japan.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-10 08:37 [#00258103]
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I'm really glad about that :D
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-10 08:43 [#00258105]
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usa strike first goal!! korea o vs usa 1
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 09:08 [#00258113]
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woofer:
I would be so angry if a referee dod that to me. its not fair that you were denied 2 regular goals...thats too much...(one thing is when the referee doesnt give you a penalty, but this...this is too much for a refereee in the world cup, they should be better)
well my friend, you have to win mexico (that will be hard) to avoid problems, so go for it.
congratulations to japan, they have a lot of quality in the midfield (inamoto, nakata)
KOREAAAAAAA GGGOOOOAAALL!!!
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nacmat
on 2002-06-10 09:27 [#00258136]
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finally 1 - 1
so both have 4 points, but then usa - poland and korea - portugal ... man, I think portugal is out... anyway usa have it clear now to qualify while horea still have a hard match against figo´s team... I still dont know what could happen, but i think korea and usa have their right well owed to pass
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-10 09:41 [#00258144]
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The referee (from Denmark) that denied 2 regulars goals was the same that penalized Italy against France in the final of european championship 2000.
*** IT'S A SHAME! ***
Next Thursday we must win against MEXICO, no doubts.
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far-east monkey
from psychiatry hospital in osaka on 2002-06-10 09:52 [#00258146]
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i don' imagine that usa is pretty strong. i guess Italy is hard to win against Mexico. Mexico is good team too.
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smokehammer
from Saigon (Vietnam) on 2002-06-10 10:03 [#00258149]
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woofer>
The referee in Euro 2000 final was Anders Frisk (Sweden)
The ref in Italy v Croatia was Graham Poll (England)
I think the linesman was Danish, but I'm not sure. Graham Poll is regarded as a poor referee in England, and there is no doubt that we have the poorest referees in the world for some reason. Collina was outstanding v. Argentina, as he always is, and I hope England can send some referees that good in the future.
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-06-10 10:08 [#00258151]
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Condolences Woofer for Saturday. All my Italian friends are still in shock. You were robbed.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-10 10:09 [#00258152]
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Yesterday I studied Mexico against Ecuador and it didn't impress me so much, it's a good team but not invincible.
If Italy will draw or lose against Mexico, it deserve to back home and leave World Cup, imo.
Italy should have an hard life against teams as strong as Argentina, England, Brasil, etc.. not against Croatia and Mexico.
Believe me, this Italy is one of the strongest who I never saw and they could win this world cup (referee apart).
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2002-06-10 10:14 [#00258153]
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Yes, I was speaking about linesman, but I didn't remeber the name in English :)
The referee hasn' much faults... the only one GUILTY is the DANISH LINESMAN.
Yesterday yhe linesman admited his faults on TV.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-06-10 10:45 [#00258158]
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go Belgium Go!!!!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-10 10:48 [#00258159]
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yeah, im hoping belgium will win this one.
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-06-10 10:50 [#00258160]
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off course you are! Everyone is!
haha lol!
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princo
from Shitty City (Geelong) (Australia) on 2002-06-10 10:52 [#00258161]
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hehehe take it easy "really big font man"... :D
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supreme
from Antwerp (Belgium) on 2002-06-10 10:57 [#00258165]
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To be honest:
Football doesn't interest me at all!
My brother and his friends are watching the game and they're driving me crazy!
all the yelling and those stupid comments blah!
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