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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:37 [#00272823]
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we do...
as mentioned about 1000 times and ignored by you sweet self...
and B3N: this guy isn't Rich Devine...just some kid...
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:37 [#00272824]
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i dont think saying that ppl "need to grow up" is a very strong arguement.
Maybe if u were a bit more specific we might understand.
Your arguement seems to be that professional artists deserve to be paid to spend all their time on music, while unsigned "amateur" artists carry on making music however and whichever way they can. Is this correct?
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:38 [#00272826]
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theoretical salary = what an artist would earn if people bought their music rather than stole it
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:38 [#00272827]
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yes, later quiv
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 16:38 [#00272829]
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Hmmm yes if artists/record labels expect me to start buying more cd's THEY HAD BETTER LOWER THE FUCKING PRICES. I listen to over a hundred different artists/dj's, and I can't purchase all the cd's from each artist. . . I just don't have the money, job or not.
BUT IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ELECTRONIC ARTISTS HERE. . . alot of them don't even need record sales. They get all their income from djing.
I burn dj mixes and actual albums by. .. say, DJ Tiesto, and if I'm depriving him of money, so what? He doesn't need it, he's one of the world's best dj's and that's primarily where he gets rich from anyway.
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jonesy
from Lisboa (Portugal) on 2002-06-18 16:39 [#00272830]
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Ahh, well her ACTUAL salary is based on people buying her CDs and that looks pretty peachy fuckin creamy to me right now.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:39 [#00272832]
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we do respect artists....as we've said about 1000 times...but I guess you simply haven't read...
B3N: this guy so isn't R Devine...just some kid...(who's music isn;t selling for a reason...if he does music at all seeing as it won't let us listen to any....kinda odd that eh, Q?)..
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:40 [#00272835]
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yes i am richard devine by the way, and ive had to stop making music because people like you would rather steal from me than buy my music, so there , okay, do you understand now?
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 16:41 [#00272839]
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theoretical salary! haha! that's good! i must remember that one. let me know when you've written an essay on it, will ya?
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-06-18 16:42 [#00272841]
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Who are you quivvuulum ? Just say it dude !
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:42 [#00272843]
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I KNOW you aren't because I know RD...
Bad luck mate...you picked the wrong guy to BS...:)
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:42 [#00272844]
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I was chatting to richard the other week and he hasn't stopped in the slightest
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:43 [#00272846]
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whatever dude
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:43 [#00272847]
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ps Q...you used the phrase MacJobs in your first post...
That phrase was created by Doug Coupland...an artist/writer...
Gonna pay him for your use?...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:44 [#00272848]
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oh, and I *do* by devines music
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:44 [#00272850]
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then you were talking to an imposter
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:44 [#00272851]
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"whatever dude"...is this the Ricki Lake show or something?..
busted...you have been...
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:45 [#00272852]
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no because its not copyright
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:45 [#00272853]
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no, I was talking to him in person you fucking idiot
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:45 [#00272854]
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ty
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 16:45 [#00272855]
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Quivvuulum: you're elitist attitude is starting to piss me off. . . IF IDM ARTISTS HAVE TO GET FUCKING MAC JOBS TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES. .. . . SCREW THAT.
AS IS AFOREMENTIONED, ELECTRONICA AND DJING GOES AND IN HAND, AND THERE'S NO WAY TO LOSE MONEY FROM DJING.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2002-06-18 16:46 [#00272856]
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Can I get your Equipment Richard ? I could use a few synths and stuff.......
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:46 [#00272857]
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no need to get rude
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Deathsmith
from Brussels (Belgium) on 2002-06-18 16:46 [#00272858]
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Why do they need a MAC job? Why don't they just resort to djing?
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Smyrma
from Beloit, WI (United States) on 2002-06-18 16:46 [#00272859]
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I didn't read this thread because it was too long..
But I for one buy far more music now because I learn about bands on the internet. There's no way I would've heard of half the bands I love if it wasn't for the internet.
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:46 [#00272860]
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pardon?
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:46 [#00272861]
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child
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:47 [#00272862]
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read it dude, its worth it
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:47 [#00272863]
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well then don't act like a troll and just be who you are, you'll gain a lot more respect
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:48 [#00272866]
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regardless of copyright, you still stole that phrase from him...
See what I'm saying...
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:48 [#00272868]
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no need to get rude i said, its a discussion, not a fucking crucifixion
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:49 [#00272869]
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no, your talking nonsense, proof that your argument is invalid
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:49 [#00272870]
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as I said, don't pretend to be someone else, especially by leading on people that you are an artist who they are fans of
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 16:50 [#00272871]
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lol, he shouldve provided his quote with pressing info, page number, editorial info... :)
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:50 [#00272874]
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how am i acting like a "troll" dude? this is a discussion about music on a music board, get real dude and join the discussion . dont just sit on the fence muck in, we can all learn something here
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 16:50 [#00272875]
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aw b3n, for ages i thought you were ray mears ;)
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:51 [#00272876]
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no pretence
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:51 [#00272877]
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oh run along and stop winding people up...
surely you've got your point across by now even if everyone here has pretty much shot it down in flames..
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:52 [#00272881]
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ahaha, I never said I was ray, half the people on this board have pictures of hot females as avatars!
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:52 [#00272882]
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if you guys are fans of mine, why not treat me with a bit more respect, after all its only my opinion, and i wanna share it with you guys, simple
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Quernstone
from Padova (Italy) on 2002-06-18 16:52 [#00272883]
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Another hard day at the office. 5 o'clock already.
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:52 [#00272884]
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Major props due to the AFX.NU Cru...
I've been majorly impressed with some of the thoughts in this thread...
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:53 [#00272885]
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why do I have to keep repeating myself?
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:53 [#00272888]
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your arument was pathetic dude, you dont understand the situation at all, and if your finished, then you go away, i started this thread, its up to me to finish it
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jand
from Braintree (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:53 [#00272889]
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yeah...time to go...
yay! earned enough cash today...no starving for me!!!...
(i'm off to steal some music!! :).
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B3n
from Manchester (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:53 [#00272891]
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because you ARE NOT RICHARD DEVINE
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:54 [#00272892]
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because you are a parrot
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Netlon Sentinel
from eDe (Netherlands, The) on 2002-06-18 16:54 [#00272893]
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you're trying to shove your opinion down ppl's throat.
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quivvuulum
from southhampton (United Kingdom) on 2002-06-18 16:54 [#00272895]
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how do you know that dude?
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skodt
from Toronto (Canada) on 2002-06-18 16:56 [#00272897]
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hey jand: using a phrase from the novel generation x [which was mediocre at best] is like sampling a snare, not really infinging on copyright.
everyone:pablo picasso walks into a bar, puls out a pen adn starts sketching on a napkin.
sets it down. some trollop reckognises him and comes over. How much for that sketch? $60000 What! It's just a sketch and it took you 5 minutes? It took me 65 years.
true story. good point. an hour of improve music isn't created in an hour. it is created over a lifetime. think please.
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