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science - what science? |
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i didn't hear anything ? |
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Ahaha, that sounds from hell thing is hilarious |
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huh you heard something? |
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I would like to know a reason as to why I am an idiot, me specificaly(sp?),just me. -A- |
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c'mon you've had long enough to reply!!! |
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I guess you're just infallible |
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hahah, I need to sample that. |
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what the hell is science? |
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hello! |
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hello god ahahhahaha! |
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well I gave my reason for saying that... |
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i want a reason for me , ME and only me :D , im special dont you know... |
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i think you get the same as us. can't you post in a religious thread without poking fun at christians??? jeeze... |
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hello! |
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*sniff* i allways thought i was special ... ahh well i think ill cope :D |
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WHY do ya keep saying hello!??? |
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He's on drugs! |
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Gasp. |
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u know hell will be looking like world of pokemon |
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hm maybe he'll share. |
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Its funny reading this thread, Im a devoted follower of God and I guess I would say Im a christian, even if I dont agree with everything they say. I do think to believe in evolution though you do need just as much faith as any other believer. By this I mean science says something can never come from nothing...so who (or what) created all of this matter? How did certain rules or principals involving physics and what not come about? non-believers have just as much faith in the fact that we came from nothing and believers in a God have faith in a supreme being. I think you are all intelligent people and Im not trying to push any of my beliefs on any of you. I think people should do whatever they think is right, or whatever their hearts tell them to do. For me my heart tells me that there is reason to live my life and I am happy in the fact that I know I will be in heaven some day. But if Im wrong and there is no God does it cheapen my life at all? I dont think so. I understand what you are saying about christians who cant think for themselves...they are weak, but anyone who cant think for themselves is weak. So please dont tell me Im ignorant for believing in God, because its my own perference, just as you not believing in him is yours, and I dont find you ignorant. Okay im done now! |
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Okay then I will have to say, you can't use this "something from nothing" argument to refute secular thinking, because in the same token, I can say "then there must be some prior cause for God". Same thing. |
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good point sir, but really I dont have the answers nor do I claim to understand it all. all I know is what feels right, you can find that ignorant if you want. |
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and I was not trying to make your beliefs (or lack thereof) invalid all I was pointing out was that even non-believers must have faith... |
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i'm a catholic.... it's just a matter of faith man.... whatever religian that can help one fin d the answers is good... science and god can go hand in hand... |
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I agree completely |
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I don't have faith, I just don't know everything. |
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just like you can ask me "how are you sure there is a God" I can ask you "how are you sure there is not one?" I think neither of us know for sure........so why argue about it? |
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i find it to be much more miraculous when i think of my existence as being a coincidence. |
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think of all the coincidences that just happened to come about! |
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and it is funny that the funkmaster says that a religious thread always ends up bashing christianity, considering this is a christian bashing thread, not just a general thread on religion. it started out that way. |
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there is no coincidence, only choices. |
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yeah thats true lol |
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shit, your right, there must be a god -- thanks for pointing that out for me. |
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Science and God do not go hand in hand. Consider the principal called "Occams Razor," basically, any part of a hypothesis, or statement, that does not affect the validity of the statement can be "cut out," removed. Example: You are driving down the highway in a car, and a tire blows because you ran over a nail, and at that same moment you tapped the steering wheel three times just before it happened. Now does it matter that you tapped the steering wheel as you were listening to music? No. It doesn't affect the situation, it has nothing to do with it. Every day, I do things like use this computer, retrieve food from my refrigerator which keeps them preserved, etc. etc., It has nothing to do with God, it has to do with human faculty. I think the attitude "thank the lord for this or that" is sick and degrading to your integrity. How low can you get? It is just sad that some people think like this. Life is here because of evolution, again, which needs no help from God. Tens of thousands of people are born every day, and in not one step of their development from zygote to child was God involved. Cut God out of the equation. |
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again I agree with you rabbit! |
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whats going on here then? |
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Personaly i don't give a fudge wheter people belive there's a god or not. What irritates me is the bible the churches the worshiping the brainwashing the general backwards minded ideas and the way its being used and tons of other stuff my peanut sized brain can't remember at the moment. |
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how are you any less "brainwashed" then? |
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i think that what they are saying is that something started the whole process...there had to be something to select from in order for natural selection? |
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you do have good points, but really I think you should think about why you hate the way people thank the lord for things? Is your way the only way sir? I find it degrading that you hate the things other people do just because you dont do it |
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i agree hexagon, i don't hate anyone for believing something, even if i think it is wrong... i feel sorry for them, maybe that they are so nihilist, but i feel for them more than feel hateful towards them. |
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I don't hate them, I pity them, and that is a worse emotion to feel for someone. |
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I definitely get a little worried when my VALUES don't jibe with somebody who is in a position of power over me. But it really doesn't bother me if a person is religious or not. I might not end up as close friends with somebody whose beliefs differ greatly from mine, but I'm never going to spend any time thinking much about it. |
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i dont understand the "position of power" comment. do you mean to say you believe that christians are in a possition of power? if so, it actually couldnt be further from the truth. unfortunately, people like anon and mappatazee run things now. |
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I totally agree with your points hexagon... I have no problems with anyones beliefs... I really don't... but what offended me in this thread is how I was almost being called ignorant because I believed in God, when everyone is ignorant... no one knows... we just choose to believe in different things... and like you said, it just feels right to me that God exists... I have experienced things in my life which tell me that God exists... hard things to explain... so that's why I believe... plus, it makes more sense to me... I don't just believe because the bible says so... |
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nope, i actually wasn't referring to religion with that one. just general values that people have, which i suppose really are interconnected with their religions. i'll make it simple: i am prochoice. |
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Because secular thinking is what drug the theistic heathens out of the dark age. It is the rightful place of those with ability. |
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so is God. if he wasnt, you wouldnt have an option. |
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