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I read in the papers at the weekend there that President Bush and Tony Blair are going to "take out" Saddam Hussein. Now as much as I like the Western Continent and Im sorry if I upset you here, but I dont agree too much with your president because I feel he is too much like his father but more trigger happy. Im headin to the RAF soon and the last thing Id like to see is Gulf War part 2. Not only that but I also hear that President Nixon wanted to use nuclear weaponry in Vietnam.... Its amazing what the american government releases every 25 years. Whats your feelings on this subject...? |
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everything is pure shit fucking wars fucking bombs fucking goverments |
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I have NO feelings on the subject, I'm safe and snug up here in peaceful Canada. |
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nowere will be safe if we keep on fucking the planet and the human race like this |
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I don't like war... |
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The world is fucking crazy. I like to just ignore all the bad news, all the news about wars over there. I'm just SO glad I wasn't born in one of those middle eastern countries. |
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The US tries to justify its wars for economic interests as a "War on Terrorism". The US is the biggest terrorist state the world has known. Who is the only country to have ever dropped nuclear bombs? Yep the good ole USofA. |
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I agree. Its rather funny when you sign up for a military job (Im gonna do Avionics engineering) coz on the form you get, one of the small printed parts says something like; "You must not be or have been supportive or involved in any terrorist groups" I guess no-one can apply then because Britain and the US are pretty much like terrorists..... |
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i predicted they would take on iraq again way back in september - they want the oil, the president was put in power by oil execs. so the logical step is to fuck over saddam hussein some more |
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btw, did you know that ronald reagan was convinced that Armageddon would take place during his presidency? and i believe his crazy vision included nuclear warfare also |
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Bush is a nut. Okay so *maybe* Saddam has bio weapons but is boming the bastard REALLY the best thing...? marlowe: I didnt know that but Reagan seemed a bit strange. Nice pic too, man. :) |
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Sorry... bombing. :) |
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I know, I like to just pretend it's not happening. Did you read that article by some modern philosopher who claimed the gulf war didn't actually exist, only on TV and in our heads? |
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Baudrillard? He is full of postmodernist bullshit. |
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yes my pic is rather funny huh? :) if you ignore a situation, it won't go away - it will only get worse. but then someone once said "people get the government they deserve". |
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There are too much aggression out there. The question is; shold we leave out there? Or shold we bring it in here? *peace* |
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I've lost my english-writing skills *sigh* |
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I can't remember a thing about the Gulf War. And I'd rather not... naive as I may be, I prefer to live in my own little world, away from war and all that violence. And it's not hard to do, being Canadian. Lucky me. We're relatively neutral, at least compared to that killing machine to our south. |
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I dont like war. |
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What happens if we have another cold war? Its a real possibility as China embraces the free market and starts to compete with the US. Canada will not necessarily be safe then. I know those mounties are good but they ain't that good. |
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the government is kinda hard to ignore -- especially when they take all your money in one way or another. and when they use your money to terrorise and bully other nations. |
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You should spread love not war/ Just think about your kids How they need you alive for they're guidance/ You need to spread love not war Cause death hurts whole families/ Imagine it's your moms that grieves/ |
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bush, blair and saddam should just get in the ring and sort it out instead of being cuntface fags about everything. |
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well your sentiments are all very well, but it didn't work for the peace movement of the 1960s and it sure as hell ain't gonna work in these diseased times - the moneymakers and the lawmakers want us to either 01) take drugs and opt out or 02) make lots of lovely money and give it to them to oil their anal passages... either way they win |
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Sigh... the government... what a horrible thing. Billions of people being controlled by a small handful... I know I can't ignore it, it's too big an issue, but that's what I try to do. Frankly, being Canadian and being on the side of the Big Bad States, it's quite nice. I doubt China's going to do anything to us poor Canadians... not in my lifetime. I'm confident of this. If I wake up tomorrow with a Chinese missile in my bed with me, set to explode, then I guess I'll be proven wrong... but I feel safe. Fuck China. |
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shit man, what you got against china? |
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Nothing, someone just metioned China and the whole ''new Cold War'' thing... so I just needed a country to use as an example. China attacks Canada, US kicks China's ass, etc. I could have used Nigeria, for all it matters! Those dangerous Nigerians and their nuclear missles. |
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hadn't you better be on the watchout for mad frenchmen? :D |
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Nigerians aint dangerous, their government is. |
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more likely it's the thieving oil companies causin' all the trouble |
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Ophecks = Ostrich |
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20,000 people demonstrated against the war (Bush's war) last month and 70,000 people gathered for a conference in Porte Alegre in S. America ata anti-capitalist social forum. Pople are begining to stir despite the blank out by the mainstream media. There is a wave of strikes hitting the UK. Ophecks - don't write us off just yet. The anti-capitalist/anti-war movement is growing. |
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did you know that richard nixon was voted into office for a second term by the largest majority ever? frightening. george w bush became a hero for what reason? first he hides away in a bunker, then he declares war on a third-world country who "might" be housing the arbitrary WTC terrorist ringleader...scary |
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*arbitrarily decided |
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Saddam Hussein was all well and good for Britain and the US until he invaded Kuwait. It was a case of "he's an animal, but he's our animal". When he stopped towing the line he became enemy no.1. That's why we can't trust our hypocritical leaders. |
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yep, britain supported saddam in the iraq/iran war of the 1980s. did you know that george w bush was in business with osama bin laden's brother in the 1980s? |
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Sigh... it's so hard for me to complain about governments and war and corrupt bullshit rulers... because I'm pretty content. I'm just so indifferent... everyone can protest all they want, it's not accomplishing jack shit. Sad fact is, George Dubya is our God, we're his bitches. As George goes, so goes the world. He's not the first leader to use force, won't be the last... can't change that. It's just such a helpless feeling... what can I do, absolutely nothing. Just hope our ''great leaders'' don't fuck up TOO much. Considering I don't have ANY worries in my life right now, aside from the trite and shallow, life is good for me, and I can't complain. I just don't have the motivation to crusade against this horrible government that has, frankly, made life pretty damn good for us privleged western worlders. Maybe at the expense of the rest of the world, yeah... but considering there's so many ENDLESS wars that people can't work out in other countries, not involving the US, I'd say they'd better work something out quick. The US isn't the only violent bully. I wonder how the rest of the world would operate if left to their own devices... no contact with Americans. I wonder if they'd prosper, or collpase... I just wonder. |
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Doesn't surprise me. They keep dressing up their wars as humanitarian and yet have Israel and Saudi Arabia as their bulwarks in the middle east. The Taliban took their brand of Islam from Saudi Arabia where a monarchy rules through repression. Democracy is non-existent. As for Israel murdering Palestinians and bulldozing housing in the West Bank and Gaza... "Freedom loving peoples". Yeah right George. |
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Yo, if people had had your indifferent attitude about Nixon, he would have got away with terrible terrible crimes -- but people were MADE to give a fuck, and he was forced to eat shit and resign, whilst his appointed vice-president gave him a full pardon for any crimes he committed, thus ensuring he got his million-dollar a year pension and all the other bonuses ex-presidents get. |
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Man people can change the world. Check your history books. How do you think we got from feudalism to capitalism to global capitalism? In Britian votes were fought for; as were votes for women, the right to join a trade union, the eight hour working day and countless other struggles. How do you think Apartheid in S. Africa ended? How did the Berling wall fall? How did black people in the US fight for civil rights? The US lost the Vietnam war and have been trying to retain their dominant military might ever since - hence the current situation. Always remember the wise words of Ali: "No Vietcong ever called me nigger". Oppressed people are the same the world over. And there are oppressed people in the west. We may have out TVs, washing machines and cars but we're not free. |
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A lot of young men are going to die. Most of the boys envolved will not understand what they are fighting for. Think about that the next time you see a war memorial. |
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I know, I know... people can change the world. But I don't have the motivation to do it, myself... I'm happy. I just don't worry about politics, wars, things like that. I worry about little things. I'm content in my naiviety. Life is too short, I'll leave it to people like you who WILL take a stand. I won't, I'm too timid. You can't change human nature, though... you can bring down a big wall and stop racist oppression, but I just don't see wars ever ending. Good luck protesting against Bush's ''wars''... I'm with you. I hope the world straightens out, and I know people can influence it. People can make a difference. But you know wars are going to rage anyway, people are going to die... it's always going to happen, it hasn't gotten any better, in general. It's just frustrating. There will be fighting and violence and wars as long as we exist. Some people are just evil. |
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Some people are just evil? C'mon man. If you want to understand the world you can't just dismiss wars as the product of "evil". Its all about economics. Wars are about states fighting for control of markets or resources (in the current situation its oil). If you remove the profit motive then you take away the need for war. Socialism is our only alternative. |
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Sorry if you upset me (I'm american)? I fucking hate George 'dubya' Bush. |
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Good luck with the socialism thing... ain't gonna happen. Everytime I read about socialism, I can't help but smile, thinking how absurd it is that people actually think that capitalism will give way to THAT. Maybe someday, when the world is vastly different... but not in my lifetime. And I don't care what happens outside of my lifetime. |
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Jonesy: What action are you going to take against the war? What can we all do? |
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I do see saddam as a threat but I'm very weary/wary (?) of all this media...It makes me angry that the US takes such a moral highground on terrorism saying it should be stamped out and taking it so seriously now when for the past 25 years they have done little to get rid of the IRA networks in the US and stop the arms shipments to ireland...where were they when there was the canary wharf bomb? (granted not to same scale). Blair sucking bush's arse worries me and I think we have to read a very thin line if things aren't going to go to shit with regards to the middle east. |
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tread^ |
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Bush is such a dumbass..calling Iran,Iraq and North Korea the 'axis of evil'..the dude has too much free time on his hands..fucking idiot he is |
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True, true. |
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