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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 09:36 [#01971266]
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roll on TGS
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 10:03 [#01971279]
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well i have my HD TV ready for PS3. The graphics on PS4 seem WAY better than those on XBOX 360. Especially after seeing 3 trailers for MGS4 - it looks sooo close to real life (which in itself will inevitably bring about new censorship laws and stronger cases for violent video game banning - booo).
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 10:03 [#01971281]
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not ps4, ps3... dumbass
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-09-15 10:34 [#01971312]
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Can't fucking wait to get MGS4 running in 1080i. Semen. It will honestly look better than real life.
However... MGS really isn't all that technically advanced, it just looks so much cooler than everything else because Kojima's team is the best in the world and the game is just naturally much more artistically accomplished than anything on Xbox 360. But I bet you could get it running on the 360 with no performance hit.
Generally, aside from MGS, and despite being a card carrying Sony fanboy, I've been pretty underwhelmed by the PS3's graphics... Resistance, Devil May Cry, they all look great... but really no better than, say, Gears of War.
(of course Gears of War has that silly looking ''plastic'' look you see in most generic FPS games, but just TECHNICALLY, I'd say it's as robust as anything I've seen on PS3)
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 10:55 [#01971331]
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i haven't really seend the graphics of any other games for PS3. I'll be damn picky about the games i get for it. The older i get, the less i enjoy most games. They're all so short and easy compared to the good old early 90's late 80's games.
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 10:55 [#01971332]
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what we need is the ultimate r-type...
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-09-15 11:07 [#01971345]
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Easy, yeah... the devs don't want to spend all that time on pretty graphics and environments just to beat your ass into submission before you can ever see them... but... short? It takes me days or weeks to beat most games these days. Took me an afternoon or two back in the day, unless it was ridiculously hard. 17 years later, I still can't beat Little Nemo- The Dream Master.
I could go for a new R-Type. R-Type Final was great on PS2 but... it was called... R-Type Final...
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aphextriplet
from your mothers bedroom (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 11:20 [#01971357]
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well, most ps2 games i demolish in 2-3 days. A few were big, and the ones that have a billion side missions like gta san andreas packed a punch for a few months. I think they will inevitably become more like a circle than a straight line. I've never understood why in games like GTA, they don't give you the option of playing right from the start, but with your souped up mega character. That would be awesome. Alas...
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-09-15 15:23 [#01971568]
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re little nemo... there was this train level which was really tricky... but more than that: every level was really full of traps and pitfalls, like the horrible gorillas and spikes - not to forget those hectic bee flight sequences... I remember once having reached those roof tops towards the end of the game; boy did that make me a proud snotty kid!
Without the emulator's save state feature, I'd never have beaten this game (the same goes for dozens of other games).
How about Little Nemo 3D, eh??
As for ps3, i think the difference in pure processing power to xbox360 is clear. Maybe only like 20%, but still visible. It's just too bad I'll never be able to afford it with those prices! xbox360 (or ANY xbox) i'll never buy, for a number of well-thought-out reasons and resentments.
PS2 better lower its prices, for one, and come out with an impressive first and second generation line-up. (Sony doesn't seem to focus on launches as much as nintendo, for example.) Still, they have square, capcom and konami. Sure, not as exclusives, but major supporters anyhow.
And the third option then... Wii MAYBE I'll get; but its official 250 dollar price tag (but what's it for Europe?) is not THAT low after all. And I'm also disappointed with the seeming unavailability of FREE classic console content. Even at 5-10 dollars or so, paying money for games easily available as roms doesn't seem reasonable.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-09-15 17:07 [#01971630]
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Even WITH save states, I've never had the patience to make it through Little Nemo. The developers of that game were sadistic. I mean, you expect Contra or Ninja Gaiden to be as hard as they are, because commandos and ninjas are macho, but Little Nemo?
I'm very interested in the PS3s fate. While it's true that every Playstation starts off playing possum, only to bring out the big guns in its second year, this will be the first time the new PS is launching AFTER all of its competition. It's going to be a brawl. I can't wait to see what happens when it gets its legs.
(I think I spend far more time reading/arguing/following the video game culture and business than actually playing games these days)
I'm disapointed in the Wii pricing. It's just a slightly souped up Gamecube, which you can get new for 80 bucks. The Virtual Console pricing is pretty ugly, too... why buy a digital copy of Ninja Gaiden for 5 bucks when you can get a physical copy for the same price? Or a ROM for nuttin'? I'll probably pick up a few games just for novelty... Gunstar Heroes, Earthbound, Super Metroid, hopefully Dynamite Headdy...
I would be interested in some of the N64 games if they had some resolution and anti-aliasing enhancements. But with no Goldeneye or Perfect Dark, it's a bit of a blah selection.
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Indeksical
from Phobiazero Damage Control (United Kingdom) on 2006-09-15 18:32 [#01971671]
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peoples attitude towards PS3 is interesting, its price is incredible and yet people are still chomping at the bit to play the same games theyre playing on PS2. ("but in this one you can SEE snake sweat!!!!!") After this gen and the more gameplay orientated strategies (microsoft really pushing live, nintendos virtual console) I really hope the processing power becomes less of a draw to people. i personally will be buying a wii because i think nintendos ideas are really interesting. ill wait and see how blu-ray pans out and let a couple of price drops pass before even considering to shell out for new versions of MGS, Driver, Tekken etc (although new Gradius and King of Fighters has got me salivating a little)
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optimus prime
on 2006-09-15 21:40 [#01971787]
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no bald space marines for me, thanks. i'm gettin' a wii. then an mgs4station when it drops in price.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-09-16 03:07 [#01971858]
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That's interesting; I didn't even think about the fact that old Rare games would be out of the selection. That's like a half of N64's top-10 games! banjo 1&2, dk64, conker, diddy kong racing, goldeneye, perfect dark...
Oh well, the "virtual console" idea is still a step in the right direction, if only because eventually one or another competitor will bring out FREE emulated content. I just hope it won't be xbox live, because my love for Bill's Box is, well, not even 'platonic'...
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-09-16 03:09 [#01971861]
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correction: donkey kong is owned by nintendo, so that should be available at least. banjo is better though!
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Dannn_
from United Kingdom on 2006-09-16 03:15 [#01971866]
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today i'll be playing Sonic 1 and then perhaps a bit of GTA San Andreas in the afternoon, I've got a lot more territories to steal today
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-09-16 14:32 [#01972121]
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rented yakuza
only played for an hour or so and it didn't impress me much.
seemed like sega trying to cash in on the gta style games w/ some of sega's own flavor added in (heavily borrowed from shenmue, that is)
gonna play for a few hours today since i'm done work for the day and i'm sick so i'll be in bed anyway.
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optimus prime
on 2006-09-16 15:46 [#01972145]
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but it's nothing like gta! it's an rpg where the random battles are in the style of old school beat-'em-ups. the translation is over-the-top hilarity but makes the game absolutely embarrassing to play near another human being. the gameplay opens up a lot more in chapter 4 then keeps getting better from there (as long as you learn new moves and such from the kung fu bum).
i still find it weird that people compare it to gta when it's absolutely nothing like it. the city with its little side missions is way more like a knights of the old republic planet than a giant sandbox-style area to romp and go on rampages in. the only thing similar is that it involves the crime world, but the big difference here is that there's a story to it.
but then again i'm a sega fan. :p
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cygnus
from nowhere and everyplace on 2006-09-16 16:05 [#01972146]
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animal crossing for the DS currently owns my life
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-17 19:14 [#01972856]
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Just finished God of War, so now I'm mostly playing Soul Calibur 3. I'm picking away at Tourist Trophy from time to time as well. I really want to get my copy of TT Superbikes back from the mate I lent it to too.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2006-09-18 03:58 [#01972963]
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Just got a couple new DS games in the last bit.... I have 7 in total now... for my DS Lite. the newest ones are Starfox and Mario Hoops 3 on 3. Both have kind of a hard learning curve but once you get the handle of it the fun starts.
Also looking forward to Final Fantasy XII coming out next month and as well Final Fantasy III which never came out before in North America or any other English speaking part of the world, its coming out with all new revamped graphics (its fully 3D now - looks like it came off of the N64 as opposed to the NES) and somewhat updated monsters and music and stuff, totally awesome. Its for the DS. Its going to be awesome.
I pre ordered a Nintendo Wii and iam getting a Playstation 3 at launch this November. I simply cannot wait.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2006-09-18 04:06 [#01972966]
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The PS3 may lose some ground to the 360 but I will bet anyone it wont be that much. Its slightly more powerful (which doesnt mean too much if you think about it, but is an advantage this time around, the PS2 had worse graphics capabilities than the first Xbox but it was superior because of the games) has a longer life in store for it because of the Cell processor and the way its set up, its truly future proof as opposed to the 360 or Wii.
It has HDMI outputs for the highest possible HD signal, it can properly output 1080p for Blu-ray and games.
Its games are all on Blu-ray discs as opposed to DVD discs which the 360 and Wii are on, so a dual DVD disc can only hold under 10 gigs while a dual layered Bluray disc can hold up to 50gigs uncompressed.
One of the launch titles for the PS3 (Resistance Fall of Man) already uses up 22gigs and can support 40 people online. If they wanted to port the WHOLE version as is over to the 360 it would have to be 3 discs. And that is just a luanch title.
The 360 cannot output the maximum HD signal, and it doesnt have HDMI. It holds its contents on truly last generation medium such as DVD, it charges you for the good online service, the PS3 is going to be free online.
And the PS3 will have all the classic franchise 3rd party games that are exclusive.
The Wii is interesting but will not gain that much ground I dont think, some... sure, but not tons. It doesnt support any form of HD at all, and if you actually look at the specs it is more powerful than the gamecube for sure and the architechture is positioned and created to handle more than the Gamecube was but its not nearly as powerful as the 360 or the PS3.
Nintendo got really lucky (well probably not luck) with the DS and the DS Lite.
Big names have a market share.. a lock on it. The 360 isnt exactly flying off the shelves. If you look at how many people still own and play PS1's and PS2's I think Microsoft has a big fight on their hand in the next few years of the silly "next gen war".
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-18 04:56 [#01972985]
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I remember playing a translation hacked version of the nes rom of FF3. Was really good till I got a short way in and they'd not translated the rest, so this might be worth playing.
The gb (original gameboy) FF3 (completely different game) was great too. Lots of clever plot twists and time travel and the ability to mutate/cybernetically enhance your characters.
RE: What you say about Xbox 360. Very true: I don't know anyone who has bought one yet.
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REFLEX
from Edmonton, Alberta (Canada) on 2006-09-19 03:08 [#01973623]
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Oh I mean many have sold.... but not that many, basically it seems as if most people who bought an xbox will buy a 360 and maybe a few more, but I doubt they will win the "war" between the consoles. Sony has a huge grip on the market. Rightly so in my opinion, they have been doing the console thing longer and more importantly they have the largest library (and best one) of games and developers.
All the things I said above in my previous posts yesterday stand true, the PS3 still has a pretty big advantage - even though this last year it has taken a lot of heat. That has changed a lot though, the launch date is Nov. 11th in Japan and Nov. 17th everywhere else except Europe is delayed till Spring 2007. We will defenitly see, but I can garuntee it will sell like hot cakes!!!
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-09-19 03:40 [#01973629]
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I share the two of your enthusiasm for FF3 remake.
But Ceri JC, by gameboy's FF3 you must mean Final Fantasy Legend III, which is actually more related to the "Saga" series than the mainstream Final Fantasy series. Thought that needed clearing up.
I too have been underwhelmed by the two X-Boxes so far - then again, I'm more of a fan of the japanese craft of game making, which has been underrepresented on X-Box.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-19 03:52 [#01973634]
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Yes, that's the one. It wasn't as polished as the other FF games I'd played, but I found the ideas more original and it was the only FF game I've played right to the end. I'm not a big RPG fan, but that was one of the few ones I enjoyed.
They should do more spinoff ones. The gb "Final Fantasy Adventure" one that was a bit like Zelda 1 on the Nes was great too.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-09-20 08:09 [#01974436]
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I don't think the lack of power or HD is going to matter much with the Wii. Casual gamers probably don't really care, or realize. It's going to come down to the games, as usual. If third parties embrace that weird controller, they're gonna rock. If not, Mario and Zelda aren't going to be enough to stymy Final Fantasy/Grand Theft Auto/Metal Gear Solid/Halo/et al.
(so far it looks like the third parties are wary and the Wii is getting the third party afterthoughts... like no true Resident Evil sequel)
BTW I felt like playing Bubble Bobble yesterday after listening to the first Advantage album. Made it up to level 57... and promptly died, as I always do. Always at level 57.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2006-09-20 08:32 [#01974442]
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Is level 57 the one that is nearly impossible unless you get a warp item/are playing 2 player mode and can jump on the other player's bubbles?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-09-21 05:31 [#01974890]
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That's the one. It's way gay, and yeah, I guess it IS kind of impossible when going solo. As far as I know. BTW I abused save-states to get to that level, just had to get that off my chest.
6 minute Metal Gear Solid 4 gameplay trailer tomorrow at TGS... there were 4 pages of scans in Famitsu magazine and it looks like it's taking a page out of RE4's book with the aiming.
(I hope they show RE5, too)
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-09-21 05:33 [#01974891]
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lolz humorous sight-gag for longtime MGS fans-
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thecurbcreeper
from United States on 2006-09-21 20:29 [#01975443]
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still yakuza. i have to return it tomorrow but i'm prob going to re-rent to finish it.
i'm at the end of chapter 11 and that majima guy beat my ass. he's pretty irritating to fight.
i think i'd rate the game a 7 and i'm being a bit generous mainly because it reminds me of shenmue so much.
the graphics are great. camera is irritating at times (especially while fighting and especially while fighting the above mentioned majima who dodges all over the place and often off of the screen). the story line is pretty cliche but works i guess. i always seem to let sub par story lines pass in videogames because videogames are fun. the fights of thugs, hoodlums, and yakuza in the street are pretty irritating and rather unbelievable as to how many people want to fight this guy.
reminds me of shenmue greatly but with a mature rating slapped on it. i wonder how much of the graphics and animation engine was re-used/re-vamped for it. (although i didn't see an AM-2 anywhere on the box)
and optimus, the game doesn't play like gta, but i can't help but think those folks over at sega where trying to cash in on the style (i.e. lack of style substituted by unnecessary cursing and "mature themes")
i'm all for adult themes in games if it's done well within a good game but most of the time it seems like a selling point when it's done to the extent such as yakuza.
so uhm i like the game but there are many parts i don't like
7/10
p.s. make shenmue III sega
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optimus prime
on 2006-09-21 21:54 [#01975457]
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you can blame sega of america for the cursing. : \ it's really embarassing, i know, but the game is just so hilariously over-the-top badass that i can't help but love it. i'd give it a generous 8. i still need to beat it, though.
once i finish both yakuza and mega man zx i'll pick up okami.
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-09-24 08:00 [#01976502]
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i have on my hands now. what a wicked game, perfectly balanced. between this and french lessons, all of my spare time is occupied :)
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rockenjohnny
from champagne socialism (Australia) on 2006-09-24 08:01 [#01976503]
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god of war that is!
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NIL-0
from trans pennine express on 2006-09-24 08:05 [#01976507]
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rocking frontier on the amiga pretty solidly for the past 4 hours... immense
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AphexAcid
from Sweden on 2006-09-24 08:08 [#01976510]
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Shin Megami Tensei: Lucifer's Call (subtitled 'Nocturne' in America),
oh, and, Shadow of the Colossus - which, in my regard, is an excellent definition of what videogames COULD be if all these godamn fps:s ought to leave a little room for other games. :)
ah well.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-09-24 10:27 [#01976580]
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Replaying System Shock 2, got the urge after watching the 15 minute Bioshock demonstration... which was actually pretty underwhelming. Very awesome environment, but WTF is up with the goofy ''enemies''?
Seems like it won't be as intense as SS2.
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optimus prime
on 2006-09-26 19:39 [#01978216]
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i beat yakuza. it was hilariously and awesomely over-the-top badass all the way through. picked up okami today and will probably post some quick impressions after i get some good time in it. also picked up rocket slime for my ds since i beat mega man (which was a solid game but i wouldn't go out of my way to recommend it).
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uzim
on 2006-10-05 16:11 [#01982777]
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Meteos (on DS) is awesome.
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optimus prime
on 2006-10-05 17:34 [#01982809]
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i don't like okami at all. the camera literally gives me a headache, all of the sound effects are annoying, the style gets boring after the first forty minutes, it pretty much has random battles which is irritating in an adventure game, and overall the game is like a mediocre zelda knock-off. i'm going to sell it and pick up tales of the abyss next week. tales of symphonia was one of the only rpgs i ever beat because it was actually fun to play (i didn't care for the story or animu at all).
playing okami also made me realise just how much i love yakuza. so far yakuza is easily my game of the year.
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-10-06 04:05 [#01983000]
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Which other games you own for DS?
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uzim
on 2006-10-06 04:14 [#01983005]
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i've got new super mario bros and meteos...
i will buy more; osu tatakae ouendan, sonic rush, tetris ds and under the knife look cool. metroid hunters too but it looks tricky to play...
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2006-10-06 04:14 [#01983006]
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Micro Machines V4
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-10-06 04:20 [#01983007]
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The new super mario bros is fun.
Regarding Metroid Prime Hunters, at first it is a bit hard to play indeed, until you get used with the touch screen though - after that, it just takes a little practice and it's like to play it on GC. Trust me, it's a really good game with an excellent soundtrack as well.
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NIL-0
from trans pennine express on 2006-10-06 05:58 [#01983036]
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battlefield 2142 demo - pretty smooth and smart
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pigster
from melbs on 2006-10-06 06:05 [#01983045]
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pro evolution soccer 5. also wanna get a network thingo for my ps2 and play it online. dunno if it'll be worth it though but hey the games good as.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2006-10-15 18:04 [#01987448]
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Thief 2, I have little money to throw around right now so I must play the classics again. Feeling stealthy, and Splinter Cell Double Agent is out in a few days, supposed to be rad.
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BoxBob-K23
from Finland on 2006-10-16 02:51 [#01987557]
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I revisited RE4 and played through the Assignment Ada side mission... had a really good time! Total mayhem... Took me a while to get past some of the enemies, but ultimately I just rummaged through intuitively. This reinforced my view of this game as a masterpiece.
Also been playing Company Of Heroes, I'm on level 8 - so far the greatest RTS I've ever had the chance to encounter... Despite minor control and A.I. issues the game is top class.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2006-10-16 08:09 [#01987621]
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Been playing Zelda OOT. Such an amazing game.
I've also got a Wii preordered with Zelda:TP and Trauma Center.
Only a couple more weeks until launch!
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DirtyPriest
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2006-10-16 08:16 [#01987628]
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Lands of lore
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tridenti
from Milano (Italy) on 2006-10-16 11:28 [#01987704]
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Cool man! You should also get Red Steel. :)
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