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smells like turkey korea to me :) germany korea will be interesting, if germany play like they did against the usa - could be all over. i'm picking korea for the final - turkey brazil will be a heated game - i predict at least one red card? but who knows. amazing - even here there were ca. 5000 Koreans that swamped downtown .. screaming shouting and honking horns!!! |
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disappointing world cup |
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strange one indeed - |
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(netherlands), france, argentina, portugal, italy, spain ... all out. that's too weird. |
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no, this world cup is absolutely SHITE! |
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I dont think germany will make the same fault as spain or italy... if you want to beat korea you have to do it by 3 goals...if you get to the end of the match with a close result....then the referee will do the rest. |
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korea: they have beaten portugal, poland, italy and spain turkey: they have beaten china, japan and senegal germany: they have beaten arabia saudi, camerun, paraguay and usa. brazil: they have beaten, china, turkey, costa rica, belgium and england for you who has done a greater effort? for me korea (apart from referees or whatever) |
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Yes Korea for me to. Portugal poland Italy and Spain....thats not easy teams. Maybe they had some luck with the referes but still i think they deserve to play Brazil in finals. Those penaltys against Spain proved how good they are me thinks. Imagine the presure they had from the thousands of people there , they keept their head cool and did their jobs. Good coaching and team spirit. |
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spain has left this tournament without having lost a match...aint that curious? |
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Following Croatia four years ago and Bulgaria and Sweden at USA 94, perhaps it isn’t such a great surprise that Korea and Turkey have made it through to the last four. Now if they were to meet in the final… |
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With swollen eyes, wounded pride and what-ifs everywhere, one of Spain’s finest generations of footballers bid a tearful farewell to international football. Luckily though, the seeds of another were planted in a heavily contentious quarter-final failure to co-hosts Korea. Fernando Hierro, Spain’s captain, all-time leading scorer and as tough a tackler as Spanish football has ever known, rallied his exhausted mates until the final whistle, playing his father-role with dignity and honour to spare. When the whistle went it was old man Hierro who comforted and soothed the young ones with warm embraces and kind words as the world seemed to crumble once again around the cursed Spanish squad. After the match the Real Madrid bastion hurled no insults nor did he spit bitter criticism, choosing instead to recall fondly a fine career. “I am leaving with good feelings…No one can take away my pride at having worn the national team shirt.” Barcelona’s Nadal, Hierro’s partner at the back with tan skin, dark hair and a hulking frame more suited to a quarry than a football pitch, also carried himself off the park with honour after fine years of service for La Furia. “I wouldn’t say the referee was to blame, it’s just one of those things.” And Nadal’s club mate Luis Enrique, Spain’s passionate soul, more than likely played his last FIFA World Cup™ match in Gwangju, and he pointed out bitter disappointment rather than fingers in the direction of the officiating crew. “When you've come so close, the feeling you're left with is one of terrible sadness,” said the battling midfielder. In a day of sad deaths and agonizing defeat, symbols of birth, new heroes and new stars for the future were on display for the watching world. 20-year-old Betis midfielder Joaquin, no less brilliant for having missed his penalty in the shootout, was the finest player on the pitch for the full 90 minutes of regulation. Roving well down the right flank, the youngster teased his poor marker with impunity, again and again setting up a disallowed goal |
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"20-year-old Betis midfielder Joaquin, no less brilliant for having missed his penalty in the shootout, was the finest player on the pitch for the full 90 minutes of regulation. Roving well down the right flank, the youngster teased his poor marker with impunity, again and again setting up a disallowed goal " YES!!! |
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.........for Morientes in extra time. Puyol too, Barcelona’s young bull at the back, proved himself a worthy successor to his more battle-scared team-mates in a gutsy final performance. And Real Madrid’s young ‘keeper Iker Casillas was an inspiration. He saved the day on a number of occasions and played with the spirit and quality of a full veteran, before falling victim to cruel penalties. From death, comes life the old adage goes. And as one of Spain’s most golden generations took a dignified bow on an unbearable afternoon in Gwangju, a beacon of hope was there for all to see. And while some pointed to the referee, Spain carried herself home yet again with honour and dignity to spare. |
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Portugal 2004 is shaping up to be an amazing cup. So many teams with something to prove: France (?), Netherlands, Portugal, ITALY, SPAIN!!! |
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:) But first, - Korea Germany and Brazil Turkey. Nacmat - yeah .. brilliant that they wrote that! So true .. |
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ehehe... I'm happy you liked my phone-mail ;-) Fortunately I remembered your address, anyway I was and I am very sad for Spain, for World Cup 2002 and for football. I think last Saturday was a sad day for who loves real and pure football. This World Cup is dirting my favourite sport and I'm very disappointed for everything I saw in Korea. Honestley I'm losing my faith and interest in this world cup, 'cos it's a fake, 'cos referee and linesmen are distorting the real results of the matches, imo. What say? I'd like to see Korea wins against Germany and wins in the final. I'd like that everyone will open his eyes and see the truth. SOUTH KOREA WORLD'S CHAMPION 2002 !!! BTW: A long applause to Blatter and FIFA. |
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you're a bunh of sad/sore losers! Damn,....that Italian Club that contracted Han (?),..whats it name? Peruzzia(?) sacked him for scoring the golden goal against Italy. Thats pathetic! |
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First of all I'd like that you connected your brain to hand first of write here. Then... The name of the team is Perugia. They sacked him 'cos last year he was an awful player here in italy, he scored only one goal. First of match against Italy he spoke bad about Italian players and he was arrogant. These are the real reasons. About "you're a bunh of sad/sore losers!" ... I prefer don't give you an answer, you don't deserve it. About "patethic"... well, read my answer above. |
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Have you seen Germanys press ? "Our men are pathetic...Lucky...zombies..." Franz Beckenbauer; " I would like every German player (except for Khan) to be put in a big sack together , so I could kick it , knowing that whichever players I kicked would deserve it " And the Turkish press? "The team are bowing to their donkey-god Hakan Sukur. He blames them for the fact that he is useless, and they support him. Our nation hits ourselves at how awful he is, and now the children of the Turkey squad sulk like spoiled brats and refuse to talk to the nation. We made these people great and look how they treat us." And the Brazilian press ? "Our destiny is again in our hands ; as when we stole defeat from glory in 1998. Watch now Scolari show his real colours, watch Lucio trip over the ball again; Pray for this defensive team who need 10 men behind the ball because they are scared by their inability to defend and by their negative manager. Another disgrace to the memory of 1970. Pele looks on in embarrasment " Korea in everyone elses press ? "Cheats... The luckiest team ever... Referees must be staying in Korea after the world cup in palaces ....... Blatter gives the hosts a leg-up.... Conspiracy undermines the cups great history.. Are we about to witness the worst ever team to win the cup ?" All quotes from press websites commenting on the four remaining teams left in the tournament. What does it all mean ? I think that people have forgotten how to view the game. We ALL need to learn again the beauty of the game. How to LOSE graciously, even if the decisions were wrong. Its a game. How to WIN gracefully, accepting your triumph with honour, not arrogance or disrespect to your own team, who are only trying their hardest. We expect too much, there is too much emphasis on winning and on success. It says a lot that the last four remaining countries have been surrounded by bitter controversy instead of praise. It says a lot that people don't care for the tournament anymore because |
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..their team lost a linesmans decision . Do none of us know how to lose OR win properly ? Are we all turning into Americans ? :( |
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"Football is a game and like every game it has laws that must be respected". In this world cup referees and linesmen broke and are broking these laws. A simple but true concept, imo. |
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I had to laugh when that Italian club sacked that Korean player. You score against us? Well fuck you. Ha, ha. |
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"First of all I'd like that you connected your brain to hand first of write here." ??? "Then... The name of the team is Perugia." whatever,....Italian football bores me. "They sacked him 'cos last year he was an awful player here in italy, he scored only one goal." ok,.but he knocked your asses out of the world cup,.and is playing a decent tournament. You can't deny that now,.can U? "First of match against Italy he spoke bad about Italian players and he was arrogant. These are the real reasons." ok,....fuck him then! And yes U R a sore loser,.'cause I can feel your tears welling up from over here,.....blaming linesman & referee's aint charming. It just proves your Italian arrogance got hurt 'cause U got beaten by Korea! About "you're a bunh of sad/sore losers!" ... I prefer don't give you an answer, you don't deserve it. About "patethic"... well, read my answer above. |
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ok, you said words as "patethic", "losers" and "italian arrogance". You're not very nice about me and my country, but fortunately it's only a your opinion and it doesn't change my life :) Today I received astrobotnia from Warp and I'm very happy, ...so have a nice day and smile, the life isn't so bad. |
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hi woofer I am glad to see you here...dont worry about plugexpert... he is just that way... I know what you mean...and I also Know you know how to loose gracefully, but you are just talking about something that is true...and should be changed... so I hope smokehammer understands this... we know how to loose, but in this thread about football, we give our opinion on something we think its bad and we would like it to change for next time... about plugexpert I dont expect too much from him... |
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plugexpert: you can give any opinion you want but there are certain ways of doing so... remember about respect... its strange for me to see you posting in such way cos I know you from quite a long time in this MB and I had never had a problem with you...but in this thread you are just too bitter |
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what I was saying was that even the successful teams are being crucified in their own countries newspapers (apart from Korea). even winning isn't enjoyable anymore ? I know how I felt when Maradona punched the ball in the goal in 1986 v. England , so I agree with nac & woofer that decisions can ruin the game, but what do you suggest ? There is no obvious cure-all answer... or is there ? |
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but that goal by maradona wa a single thing...I mean argentina wasnt favoured by referees anymore in that championship...so it was just a mistake maybe... mistakes are part of the game... do you think that this is the same case???? |
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mmm... yes. sorry. I didn't see much wrong in the Italy v Korea game , the decisions were very close split - second decisions.(Tomassi onside 1 inch only) Italy v. Croatia was poor, but why would there be a conspiracy to get Croatia through ? THERE WOULDN'T !!! Besides the referee Graham Poll is useless anyway, he always makes mistakes in England aswell. Spain v. Korea was awful, I agree. The ball was IN for the header, but that was the linesman, not the referee. ONE DECISION. on the freekick ; well 1 in 3 freekicks & corners the ref blows for pushing against the attacking side. Belgium got done like that v. Brazil (Wilmots header). Sol Campbell v. Argentina in France 1998 also. The refereeing was SHIT , yes. Also Torsten Frings' handball against the USA , which was JUST as bad, on the line. SHIT SHIT refereeing. Yes. Maradona V. England , equally bad. And the second Maradona goal in that game , (the great one) involved Glenn Hoddle being fouled to give Argentina posession to score. There are always bizarre decisions. I know what you're saying, but I think FIFA is so concerned now that there can't be favouritism to Korea anymore. Spain were robbed, sure. But no more than England 16 years ago . It still hurts , but the pain gets a little less each day ;) |
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I hope you can still enjoy the cup nacmat, I probably wouldn't If i was Spanish. I'm annoyed that some of the 'happy' teams are out. Senegal, Ireland, Costa Rica for example. They all added much needed colour to the tournament. Great fans, proud countries, good play etc... Germany & Turkey (and even Brazil) are moaning , its not good . |
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of course I will enjoy the cup... I love football... above my colours... I am spanish cos I was born here, it wasnt my choice, but it is my choice to enjoy football... I like this game a lot... no matter who plays it... anyway brazil is my team now....why? well many players are in spanish league...just that... |
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WooferAttack & nacmat,..... RZPCT I have no problems with U ,tho I agree my stance on Italy is colored ,'cause they beat Holland in Euro 2000 in a match they didn't deserve 2 win.(in my opinion) The match with Korea felt like some bit of revenge. I'm no fan of Italian football style,.so yes I'm biased. Wheter or not that korean player should be sacked tho,.so short after the match is another question. I think at least the timing is off. Anywayz ,.who cares? I'm off remixing. |
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no problem plugexpert |
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Ah .. here's my picks Germany vs Korea - (1:0) 1:2 Brazil vs Turkey - (0:0) 1:1 (ext.1:2) Playoff for 3rd Germany vs Brazil - (0:2) 1:3 Final Korea vs Turkey - (1:0) 1:1 (ext.1:1) (pen.3:5) But seeing my predictions have a tendency to be horribly wrong, i don't see why this shouldn't be the case this time :) |
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Brazil sure is good at stalling out games when they need to. The acting school that they go to seems to pay off for them. It seems whenever a play is stopped for one of their hurt players, he is magically alright. If they do make it to the final, I hope that Germany will be there to give them a reason for holding their faces and acting like little girls. |
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While on the subject of football, I was wondering what any of you would consider the best magazine that there is for it. In America, the variety isn't too great as you could imagine. I like four four two. Are their better ones out there? |
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In EURO2000 Italy was lucky but referee and linesman didn't help us, I think. We beat Holland (after penalties) in 9 players against 11 (2 expulsion), we had 2 penalty against (and Toldo was a king). Fortune and favouritisms are different things, imo. |
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Didn't you see much wrong in italy v korea? gulp... You forgot the expulsion of Totti... You forgot a clear hand fault in Korea area. ...then you forgot Italy v Mexico (2 regulars goal denied) ...etc... etc... etc... About Maradona and England, I remember very well "the hand of god" but it was a referee's error, not a favouritism, imo. |
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today korea - germany I am hungry of football |
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if korea wins this one, im never again going to watch football |
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not really hehe |
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hey tolstoyed were have you been? I didnt see you around lately |
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i ve been around, not that much tho. today we don't work here-its just perfect so i can watch football |
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did u hear about ronaldo he might not play tomorrow that would be a big disappointment for the fans as well as for himself. he really wanted this cup to be his return to football. |
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Woofer> I think we should stop this conspiracy theory now. I know Italy has been wronged. And Spain. Its bad. I'm not arguing with you. It sucks. I just can't understand why Italy (a big football nation) would be plotted against by FIFA. The theory doesn't hold up. Sure, maybe Korea has had biased decisions as they are hosts, but why would Mexico or Croatia get favours ? Do you think the Germany handball was a mistake against USA or a conspiracy ? It does look like a conspiracy against Italy, but I still doubt that it actually is. One thing I have thought though.... If Brazil and Korea go through to the final it will add credibility to your arguement. Remember how Brazil was pressurised by FIFA and Nike to play Ronaldo in France '98 final and they lost 3-0.. maybe FIFA wants them to win it this year as an "apology" for that mess... And yes, maybe they do want Korea as a gift to the excellent job they have done as hosts. I still think Germany will beat Korea . I'm concentrating on the game today now, lets see who gets the decisions today... prediction > no bad decisions Germany win 3-0 Everyone goes home happy. |
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korea - germany ....5..........0...... |
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i say korea5-3germany hehe |
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i would like to know when was the last time kahn got 5 goals |
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well, although we played crappy in the recent games: wish us luck plz :) |
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actually 3 of the korean goals wont even be goal but the referee will kick the ball into the net . the other two will be two penalty kicks (non existing penalty) that the referee will have to make them kick twice each one as the koreans will fail their first attempt. germany will score 6 times... but 3 of them will be annuled by off side (non existing) 2 of them will be annuled by a previous non existing fault and the other one will be annuled cos someone frome the audience shouts too much while they scored the goal. |
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