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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-04-16 10:39 [#01567177]
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See guys - it was all one big joke! gl0tch isn't an idiot at all!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-04-16 10:47 [#01567186]
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;-)
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-04-16 11:06 [#01567207]
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"The Fragile" seemed like a major over the top production, this sounds more raw or something
you've got to be kidding me. the reason the fragile is so over-the-top produced is because of the ridiculous amounts of layers of sounds and instruments and grandiose arrangements. the reason it's so great is because it was so ridiculously over-produced. this sounds AS over-produced proportionately for something that could be done on a 4-track. in fact, a 4-track recording would have made this sound 1111000% better.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-04-16 15:30 [#01567473]
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yeah, that's what i'm saying, exactly. don't get me wrong. i like the layering and super production of The Fragile.
what i mean is hmmm.... something like,
'With Teeth' is to 'The Fragile' what Reservoir Dogs is to Pulp Fiction.
get me?
NIN!
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big
from lsg on 2005-04-17 01:22 [#01567891]
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/listening first track i quite like it, i just cant stand the singing of the dude anymore
also he gave away the ending of million dollar baby
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-04-17 01:48 [#01567894]
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that was funny, i haven't seen million dollar baby yet but i had a good laugh when i accidently read his spoiler!
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uzim
on 2005-04-17 03:32 [#01567908]
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i didn't like that much the production/mixing/sound of The Fragile, i don't remember what exactly how but i always felt the sound could have been better...
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-05-03 12:15 [#01584647]
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i like the minimal look of the packaging
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uzim
on 2005-05-03 12:44 [#01584697]
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it's not bad, but it would have looked a lot better if there wasn't the stupid "parental advisory explicit lyrics" logo on it.
so stupid - if they want to put it as a sticker on the plastic wrap, fine, but why include it in the front cover??
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Taxidermist
from Black Grass on 2005-05-03 12:49 [#01584704]
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I didn't really like the fragile. I guess angsty teen music should stay with angsty teens.
Pretty hate machine Broken and the downward spiral are still the best ones. These new ones suck.
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mimi
on 2005-05-03 13:07 [#01584732]
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aww i know, what is it, a badge of honor?
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-05-03 13:19 [#01584757]
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ho hum...i still don't care for this release. i've listened to it for awhile now and there are still only 2 tracks i dig. so i think i'll pass on buying it on any format. i like reading the reviews...they're funny as hell
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uzim
on 2005-05-03 13:39 [#01584778]
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maybe some people don't like it because they grew up since the previous releases and can't take the teenage-blog-like lyrics anymore... i dunno.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-03 13:55 [#01584799]
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I really don't think the lyrics are the major problem for those people.
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thecrimsonguard
from ∞ (United States) on 2005-05-03 14:16 [#01584820]
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the lyrics aren't teenage'ish' at all. they're just really bad.
the music is too 'pop' sounding. i can see why trent never worked with richard devine. i'm sure he had great ideas for the sounds and everything, but trent wanted a radio/bullshit friendly album to attract all they young kiddies...i still dig nin's early stuff. still was fantastic. i just don't understand how you go from making hybrid drum & bass style rock music to this utter shit. if the perfect drug was any indication of what was to come, i was totally psyched for new nin material..but its just ended up really sucking dick. and i should have known when he did that shitty track 'deep' what a piece of schitty shit
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uzim
on 2005-05-03 14:18 [#01584824]
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'Deep' was terrible indeed.
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Aktium
from cleveland (United States) on 2005-05-03 16:43 [#01585111]
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it a good album you people are retarded. why don't you give it time. jesus christ, why don't you go and and make a better album then you schmuk. i can't believe im wasting my time writting this. if you don't like it then dodn't listen to it. its good music. im sorry how upset you are. hopefully you will go home and hang yourselves. since this album is has ruined your life. god. go outside and play!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-03 16:45 [#01585119]
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sorry, trent.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-03 16:46 [#01585125]
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i wish to enter a heron-induced coma!
HAHAHAH!
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Vestron
on 2005-05-03 17:16 [#01585252]
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why don't you go and and make a better album then you schmuk
i'm sure most of us could if we had the time, money and distribution power trent does...you...um...schmukface!
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forck_02lynix
from brooklyn on 2005-05-03 17:48 [#01585326]
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some people take things too seriously. it's just an album, that apparently a lot of people here aren't too fond of. if you take offense, that's your fault, not theirs.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-05-03 18:01 [#01585357]
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I never liked NIN, adolecent development phase music. The only track I ever enjoyed was Perfect Drug. Also, I have heard just about all his albums, my metal head friend who was once my roommate played it more than i played autechre.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-05-03 18:24 [#01585405]
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ok i finannly got in the thread yeah the parental thing is stupid, its not his choice but the companies
tracks: all the love in the world, good intro track its hard to imagine the word "love" in a nin track
you know what you are?, i like this song quite a bit, but the constant use of "fcuk" gets sort old
the collector, has really creative lyrics
the hand that feeds, crank this one in the car, sounds perfect, "i keep holding on to what i want to believe, and on and on and on", then the sqeeks, PERFECT !
love is not enough, another one w/"love" is a nice little song
every day is exactly the same, i played this one 10 times in a row, is so good, a solid track
with teeth, :)
only, bass line
gettting smaller, the lyrics make a person fell small, or they give power
sunspots, good indeed
the line begins to blur, the techniques of this song are very creative, unusual
beside you in time, wierd fades, didigeroo sounds?
right where it belongs, a good slow, think about the future song, i like the crowd noises
rating, 9.357/10
-waits full tour
Trent, even if there are people that hate the new stuff, its great music and it is appreciated
thanks
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fungusman
from Monster Island on 2005-05-03 19:12 [#01585537]
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"he was in the highschool band, and you know how those people are. at least at my school, they were all fucking eachother and somebody was always crying about something!"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA!
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-03 19:15 [#01585543]
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where the hell do you hear didgeredoo sounds in "beside you in time"?
I just hear walls of guitar feedback, and interference between the feedback and the percussion when it comes in.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-03 19:19 [#01585545]
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why don't you make a thread about it
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-05-03 20:58 [#01585617]
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BITE "the hand that feeds" is a pretty sweet video, i like the inperfections in the shots
qrter, it could be that i somehow mis-explained that track
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-05-03 22:43 [#01585655]
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do we like it so much because we are so old?!
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SPD
from United States on 2005-05-03 23:45 [#01585671]
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Aktium, i like you already. and Recycle, a nice review.
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mrgypsum
on 2005-05-03 23:51 [#01585672]
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so .... is this any good?
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SPD
from United States on 2005-05-04 00:25 [#01585680]
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yes. get it. and it's only a couple bucks or so more for the version that has a DVD on the B side.
reg. version $9.99 right now duel version $11.99 right now
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uzim
on 2005-05-04 00:25 [#01585681]
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some say yes, some say no.
listen to the whole album on myspace check for yourself. : )
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uzim
on 2005-05-04 00:33 [#01585684]
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a review.
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teapot
from Paddington (Australia) on 2005-05-04 02:49 [#01585736]
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you're all spazzed up little pretentious freaks, its awesome...
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scaryghost
from Los Angeles (United States) on 2005-05-04 03:27 [#01585750]
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don't say i never told you so.
trent reznor is like that guy that doesn't come around much but everyone likes. people at a party will say "hey, i wonder what happened to trent." and then five years later he shows up and has sex with your mom and spits in your ears.
welcome to trent's world!
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uzim
on 2005-05-04 03:45 [#01585763]
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uh, i wouldn't like someone who'd have sex with my mom and spit in my ears.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-04 10:32 [#01586080]
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god you're amazingly cliched!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-05-04 11:13 [#01586145]
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sounds even better in the stereo at home
yeah the soudns are more mature, youll never hear PHM, or downward spiral again, he used a lot of textures
i was flipping through the dvd section, can you believe that ""the perfect drug" is like 7 years old ? good god how time flies
in the spin interview, you know when they put a little quote in bold parenthasies,trent said, "im 39 but i should be 26", recycle quote "im 30 but i should be 24" :)
overall the record is a progression/maturity of trent, and i like it
qrter, my didigeroo statement was wrong
FCUK THE HATORZ !
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-04 11:27 [#01586173]
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thanks a lot for the link!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-05-04 11:34 [#01586184]
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"9,116 out of 9,652 stars" hahahah
its a great cd and should get the credit it deserves, even though nine inch nails highpoint was "closure" and "hurt", he will never take the band downhill
the future so bright i gotta wear shades
WHY DO YOU GET "all the love in the world"
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-04 11:38 [#01586191]
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so i'm still listening to this and i'm up to the hit single. the first song started off ok except trent kind of sucked at singing it. then when it climaxed it was annoying over-the-top disco pop. no thanks. then there was some really mediocre pop songs. now the hand that feeds, which i still totally hate. i am still giving it a shot though, and i'm going to listen to it the whole way through.
so far, i am very far from being impressed.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 11:50 [#01586201]
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i actualy think this album is really, really good... i've listened to it quite a bit over the last month and its grown to be one of my favourite albums by NIN, up there with PHM and TDS.
Besides you in time is awesome, reminds me of My Bloody Valentine!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-04 11:51 [#01586203]
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this one tune is all right. i don't know what it's called. i like it except for the pseudo-closer piano riff. "every day is exactly the same" now it's boring.
it's really sad. i want to like this album! really, i am a big fan of nin. but it's just not good. it's like he is trying to redo bits of the fragile and it isn't working.
now here's a track with another slow, sleazy riff... ok, more of the same... but this is pretty good so far... wait, "with the teethahh!" now it's lame.
my main problem with this record is that it's so mediocre. it sounds like he's out of ideas.
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-04 11:56 [#01586207]
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oh, another disco song. "spill the wine and take that pearl" fucking ripoff garbage.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 11:58 [#01586209]
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if this is the first time your listening to it i can guarentee it will grow on you
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-04 12:00 [#01586210]
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i don't want it to grow on me, honestly. i don't want to like music this lame. if you play a britney spears album enough and try to like it, you eventually will. i really hate this music, sorry.
this is the first nin release i will not buy. i have every other cd he's put out. when he makes a good record with original ideas i will come back to nin.
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 12:07 [#01586215]
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its not a matter of trying to like it, its simply a grower imo...
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Vestron
on 2005-05-04 12:10 [#01586217]
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if this is the first time your listening to it i can guarentee it will grow on you
No.
NO NO NO NO NO!!!!
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pantalaimon
from Winterfell (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-04 12:11 [#01586218]
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YES YES YES!!!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-05-04 12:15 [#01586221]
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the fragile was a grower because the songs weren't all obvious pop songs and i didn't understand it right away.
with teeth is not a grower because the songs are obvious pop songs and i hate it right away.
the two records are night and day. the fragile had good songs and instrumentals and complex arrangements. this is rick rubin regurgitated bollocks.
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