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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-10-01 05:43 [#00885018]
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oh wow ! I've never seen that picture of him before!!! :D hahah LOOK AT HIM!!
congrats everyone for breaking 400 posts on this fine fine thread! :)
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-01 05:50 [#00885023]
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Yeah that is a wicked photo!
I'm going to post every ten minutes on this today so it gets to 500
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2003-10-01 05:58 [#00885033]
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ride her into the sun!!
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-01 06:09 [#00885045]
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I'm having a movie night at mine and gave my friends a list of possible themes. Not ONE of them has mentioned Murray even though I put that top of the list. I'm considering mass murder.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-10-03 04:48 [#00887804]
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order them to sit down and watch Murray's entire discography -- they will thank you for it afterwards! :D
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-10-06 03:15 [#00891007]
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From IMDB:
George Clooney had a wild time when he met Bill Murray for the first time at last month's Venice Film Festival - the pair partied together until the break of dawn. The Intolerable Cruelty star says he was in awe of the Ghostbuster when he spotted him in a bar - but decided to ignore his nerves and chat to him anyway. George says, "He always makes me laugh. I hadn't met him before but I saw him in a bar and went over. You can't not go - it's Bill Murray. And he was like, 'Well, look who's coming now!' I said, 'Yeah, yeah, bring it on!' But we had a great night. I ended up in a wheelchair that I stole from the Cipriani Hotel at seven in the morning, flying around the lobby, screaming at him. He cracks me up."
:)
The story below that is Dennis Leary denying he stole material from Bill Hicks. Well considering that's the millionth time someone's said it since you broke with that fucking Asshole song I'd say there's a pretty good case. Wanker.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-10-06 11:06 [#00891489]
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Have any of you seen "In Translation" yet? I really dont think it's gonna be in theaters that long.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-10-06 12:50 [#00891587]
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Lost in Translation is seriously the best movie i have seen so far this year.
i absolutely loved it.
it's stupid how the commercials keep saying "It's Bill Murray as you've never seen him before" though. His character is very much the same as in Rushmoore. but that is another of my favorite Murray performances.
Scarlett johanson was really very good in it too. i expect great things from her as she matures. she's only 18 i heard.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-08 18:47 [#00941641]
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in watching "speaking of sex", it wasnt any good until bill joined in hehe
that scene with everyone talking about mr.majestic in that room is HILARIOUS
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-11-08 19:11 [#00941667]
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I bought & watched Tootsie today -- everytime Murray spoke I laughed - maybe I'm a pavlov doggie! :D
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god, i just realized how many great memories Murray has given me.... i grew up watching him in his prime.
The Ghostbusters films, Groundhog Day, Ed Wood..... damn he's talented.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-08 19:20 [#00941678]
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he was talented...now he's a master! :)
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-11-09 05:11 [#00941882]
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Updated List of Murray Films I've Seen
Meatballs (1978) Caddyshack (1980) Stripes (1981) Tootsie (1982) Ghost Busters (1984) The Razor's Edge (1984) Little Shop of Horros (1986) Scrooged (1988) Ghostbusters II (1989) Quick Change (1990) Groundhog Day (1993) Mad Dog and Glory (1993) Ed Wood (1994) Kingpin (1996) The Man Who Knew Too Little (1997) Wild Things (1998) Rushmore (1998) Charlie's Angels (2000) Osmosis Jones (2001) The Royal Tenenbaums (2001)
...20, Yavo is still beating me :@
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2003-11-09 07:21 [#00941949]
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all of those plus Space Jam
oo, minus the razors edge =o.
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-09 07:32 [#00941958]
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Wow haven't seen this in a while.... it got HUGE !
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-11-09 07:44 [#00941972]
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Fuck I've seen Space Jam!!!
that's 21! I don't think it was fuckin' listed on IMDB or else I somehow totally overlooked it! :@
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Aphexisatwin
from your mom's room (United States) on 2003-11-09 07:48 [#00941978]
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I'm at all minus tootsie... and razors edge..... and yes that is including space jam
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-11-09 07:53 [#00941988]
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This thread is going good considering it is 8 months old! It's going to break half a thousand easy! It will become XLT's longest running thread ever!
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-11-12 11:53 [#00947405]
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last night I dreamt that Bill Murray came over to my apt. I showed him the signed Photo of himself and had a chat with him.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-11-12 12:09 [#00947444]
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I saw osmosis jones a couple of weeks ago.
Not bad considering.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-11-29 20:17 [#00970854]
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Bought and watched DVD of "Hamlet" today... Bill Murray acted greatly--perfect mix of Shakespearean and modern...and with some well-known Murray mannerisms, too! Film in general was a bit slow-paced, but I liked it.
22 films now! Can't wait for Lost in Translation to come out in the UK (if it EVER does!)
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-29 20:18 [#00970855]
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indeed, a fine comedian. his most recent performance in lost in translation is also his best.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-29 20:20 [#00970856]
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what makes it truly awesome is that he doesn't indulge in overblown comedy but instead lets the audience see that his character could be the life of the party, but is too tired to do much more than make the occasional ironic remark. its really an amazing piece of work.
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ecnadniarb
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It's being rereleased in the States in February on DVD so there is still a chance.
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-11-29 20:23 [#00970860]
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dunno how I doubled up on the re...
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-11-29 20:24 [#00970861]
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I optimistically asked Blockbusters if it was slated to be released on DVD anytime soon, since it appears to have bypassed the Cinemas... no word... but then, it is also been mentioned as Oscar-winning material, and Murray's best chance for an Oscar, so it MUST be released in the Cinemas.. WHEN WHEN WHEN! they fucking shithold filme execs are assholes!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-29 20:25 [#00970863]
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are you sure about that? way too long...but then again its going to be much sweeter when i get it :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-29 20:27 [#00970868]
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i can get it out of my head how excellent bill was in this film...i always thought of him to be more of a comedian and totally uncapable of being serious, i was wrong big time!! he so soooo good
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-11-29 20:29 [#00970873]
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Nah that's bullshit...it is out in UK cinemas on the 9th of January.
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zaphod
from the metaverse on 2003-11-29 20:34 [#00970880]
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yeah, imdb says 9th of january for UK. february for spain.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-11-29 20:48 [#00970888]
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oh, i thought you were takling of when it is supposed to be released on dvd
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ecnadniarb
on 2003-11-29 21:06 [#00970909]
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The DVD is due out in the US in February, the cinema release in the UK is January (wouldn't be surprised if it was a limited release though)...and probably a March/April release on DVD or something.
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pxoxoxpxy
on 2003-11-30 00:33 [#00971060]
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I can't wait to see him in Wes Anderson's next project, The Life Aquatic.
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marlowe
from Antarctica on 2003-11-30 05:13 [#00971164]
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Absolutely--especially considering he is actually playing the lead role. Plus, it also sounds like an interesting plot. He's also acting in one of Anderson's friends films--this could be a decade filled with fantastic films featuring Bill Murray--it truly is a great time to be a Murray fan!
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:01 [#00973975]
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Here is Bill Murray as interviewed by Empire magazine:
You're a hard man to pin down. Is it true you don't like doing interviews?
I don't have a problem talking about my work, but I don't make a habit of talking about myself. There are people who are obsessed with information about my life, what clothes I'm wearing and what my exercise regime is. I'm not interested in that. But I'll always talk about my work, and Lost In Translation is really, really great.
The director, Sofia Coppola, wanted you from the start, but you took a long time to commit. Why was that? Did you need to be persuaded?
It wasn't about being persuaded. It was about... finding me, really (laughs).
Where were you?
I was around! At that time I hadn't been speaking to my agent for about...(laughs) give months. Sofia was calling him every day saying, "Have you heard from him?" He'd say, "No, we haven't and we, er, don't know where he is, either."
Didn't you mind?
I like it that way. You lose all those people that aren't really committed.
The part of Bob Harris was written with you in mind. Were you aware of that?
I'd heard about it. We have a mutual friend who would tell me this script was coming. I saw a lot of elements of my experience in it. I have been in that situation - of being far away from home and dissatisfied and meeting someone else who's dissatisfied, and also being a movie actor at the mercy of someone who may or may not have the right or ability to suggest things for you to do. But if someone says "I have a script I wrote for you." It's usually not good. Sometimes I read it and go, "You wrote this? No I wrote it, because these are all lines from my funny movies."
Did you draw on element of your own career to play him?
Playing a movie star wasn't hard for me. I'm not Bob Harris but, having lived with and worked with movie stars, I know a lot about the subject. So may of these things were right in my wheelhouse, you know? Any actor
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:02 [#00973976]
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Any actor would love to get this script in the mail. It was so ripe with potiential. I didn't base it on any person, it's just that my whole life has led to this moment, and everything I am goes into what I do.
Was it your first experience of Tokyo?
Yes. It's a daunting place. It's gigantic, very fast-paced and there's an enormous amount of energy. There are forests of high-rises - and they're spread out, they're all over the place, not just in one core centre of town. Sofia found that hotel we shot in, the Park Hyatt, and it's breathtaking. It doesn't look real. You feel like you're on another planet. The lobby of the hotel, the front desk, is on the 50th floor. And it's all glass! So you have vertigo the second you check in. And your room is virtually in the clouds - you're above everything and you almost feel like you're on the Mir space station. It's just so discombobulating. And the language is completely impenetrable - you have no idea what they're saying. You'd think that English is a fairly common language in most places around the world, but in Japan... nah. They don't understand or speak it at all.
Did people recognise you there?
Not really. They don't even know your voice because western movies are dubbed. So your voice has no meaning because they don't understand what you're saying, and they've never heard your voice so they don't know what you sound like. They're not thinking, "Hey, that's an American actor's voice." They're thinking, "What is that noise he's making?"
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:03 [#00973977]
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What film did they associate you with the most?
Occasionally people would come up and say "Ah, Ghoss-bussas! Ghoss-bussas!" Otherwise it was pretty anonymous. Except for being taller than everyone, it wasn't like I stuck out in any awy. They keep their eyes to themselves, they don't really stare.
In one scene you take off on a bender, one of those epic nights out that most of us don't have past a certain age. Do you go out like that now?
It gets harder because a) you've got other responsibilities and b) there are tethers on you. It still happens, but not like it used to. It happened every week when I was on SNL - it was so much pressure and you felt you needed new material all the time. Not just comedy material but emotional material, and you had to blow it out.
What makes a great night out?
It's when you let yourself get taken and remain aware that you're getting taken. If you can consciously let yourself get taken to see where you, that's an exercise. That's discipline. To follow the scent, let yourself go and see what happens... that takes courage. And if you're with people you don't know, it's even more scary.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:04 [#00973978]
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There's a line in the film when Harris says that there is no moment more frightening than when your first child is born...
I said it and I meant it. When you have a child your life changes completely. The day your child is born, your life changes forever. Sometimes you don't realise how much you've taken on. It's not like having a pet or a plant - they're always there and they're helpless, especially to begin with, and they need help all the time. And you end up needing them after a while. That's when it gets really tricky. At first it's like a job, another chore you have to do, even though you love and adore them, and then you find that you really need them and you're incomplete without them. That's when you realise the mystery of the whole thing. Whose idea was this, that there would be this being that would continue it's race and breed more people that looked sort of like the and acted like them and walked them? It's a mystery and a fun journey.
There is a scene of you in the film hitting a golf ball. Great shot. Was that one take?
Yeah. Fuckin' crushed it. I crushed.
Is that normally how you hit?
When I hit it good I hit it like that, but I was a little bit more alert, I had cool clothes on, and I had a wooden persimmon driver. As they say in the post-game interviews, I wasnted to put a good swing on it. And I crushed it. And that was my day's work. The crew went back to shoot in town and I played the rest of the course.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:05 [#00973979]
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Where did you play when you were growing up?
Indian Hill Golf Club (in Winnetka, Illinois). I caddied there from the time I was ten until eighteen. Most of the characters in Caddyshack were based on people at Indian Hill. My brother Brian, who wrote the script with Doug Kenney, caddied there. A lot of it was based on my brother's experience.
You don't seem to do so much of that kind of crazy stuff anymore. Was there a point at which you chose to do more serious roles like The Royal Tenenbaums, for example?
No, there was no conscious decision to head in any kind of direction - I always feel that's forced. That's like wanting an Oscar - "Okay, I want to do something serious." For me, I want to do what's good, the best thing I can do. It's not hard - if you wait for something that's good, it looks like you're being discerning.
Have you made any movies which you thought were a mistake?
I was in Kingpin, which some people thought was too raunchy.
It was worth it for the hair. What was the inspiration for you hair for that movie? It was like a streamer on a kite...
When I go to the set, I said to Woody Harrelson, "What're you doing with your hair?" He said, "Comb-over." I said, "Me, too."
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:05 [#00973980]
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Since Rushmore, people seem to have taken you much more seriously. Did you mind it took so long?
I've had the luxury of being able to take my time, do it at my own tempo. You can't force people to see you a different way. I think the Razor's Edge is a good movie, but at the time it was just as reviled as any other comedian doing a serious thing now. Like The Majestic with Jim Carrey, movies where comedians go straight - people don't like them.
Because it feels like you're taking something away from them?
That's the response I got. I thought, "Well, aren't we all bigger than that?" I wasn't shocked by it, but I thought that the professional critics would be able to say, "Okay, we shouldn't rule this out because the guy normally does other stuff." Unless it's really despicable, then you have to just jump out with both feet on the neck.
So why the gradual improvement in roles?
The scripts keep getting better. It's partly the fact that I don't take all the jobs. You find yourself trying to create something that doesn't have integrity. The first movies I did, the scripts were not there. You have to make it up every day. So after a while you think, "Well, I can make things happen, but I'd like to have something that is better-built." When you start, all you want to do is work. But as life interrupts, it's not just about your career. When you don't take those jobs, you see other people take them and flounder. Either that person didn't know how to make up for what was missing, or the director said, "This is how it has to be." I don't want to have that argument. You don't want to be in the Philippines when the director says, "Let's just do it as written." I've had that situation. I say, "Send me a postcard."
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:07 [#00973981]
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There's already talk of an Oscar nomination next year. Were you bothered about being overlooked for Groundhog Day?
I don't pay any attention to that. If you catch yourself wanting to win an Oscar... it's a really unattractive sight to see an actor or actress who really wants an Oscar. And you often see it on the show, you see their faces and the desperation is so ugly. Desperation is not a quality I long for. I'm over the Oscar. Sometimes people win it and you think, "This can't be true!" I remember one year when this guy who won over Paul Schofield and I thought to myself, "This is a joke!" Paul Schofield is one of the greatest actors alive, and the idea that he wasn't the best actor that year was just absurd. But the local favourite won, and so it was meaningless. It was pointless. It's a little bit of a popularlity contest too. Sometimes it's right, but it's wrong just as often, so I don't care. I'd rather make movies that lots of people see and liked. I'm happy with the results. I'd rather be here in Venice for a week than win an Oscar. That's the truth.
You've talked a lot in the past about good manners, and since Charlie's Angels you've had a reputation for being firey. Do people who lack manners bother you?
I've managed to meet more people than most. Because you meet so many people, you meet a lot of nasty people, and if you're a human being it bothers you when you have a bad experience with someone. I've found myself still bleeding about it years later. A jerk can make you act like a jerk because... a bad person will just keep pushing the bad button and you think, "Okay, here it comes, you're the sorry son of a bitch that's going to get my wrath." I used to think like that, because of the righteous-indignation thing I used to have, and still have on occasion, that it was okay to let that fly. But you've really got to pick your fights, you've got to be more judicious than I once thought. You've got to hold it in, You lose a lot of energy that wa
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:08 [#00973982]
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way.
Did you think you were correcting the bad behaviour of the world?
Yeah, I used to spend a lot of time trying to correct people's manners. If someone came up to me I would say, "I'm from Illinois, and back there we introduce ourselves before we ask for anything."
You were born and raised in Illinois. Do you think there's anything particularly Midwestern about your sense of humour?
I think so. People from the Midwest are funny - like Chris Farely, he was funny. They make you feel comfortable. That's how I look at people when watching a movie. I say, "Okay, he makes me comfortable. He knows what he's doing. Nothing to shock or touch, but he knows what he's doing." I don't worry about saying, "Oh Christ, what sappy crap is this guy going to come up with, because he does it everytime..."
Do you think people are born funny?
You can be born funny-looking, but I don't think you can be born funny.
What makes people funny?
It's what's in your life - it's what you're given, I guess. It's the way you see the world. I guess I se it kind of funny and I really get a kick out of it. That's all there is for me.
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from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:09 [#00973983]
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Is that a good or a bad thing?
Well, the more you see, the more you get. And the more you get, the more you get things that aren't necessarily what you want, ot what are pleasant. But you have to be able to get it all in order to make sense of it. If you don't understand pain or work or effort, you may as well be a marshmallow and get it over with. Just throw yourself in the fire. But if you want to make it an interesting ride, you've got to try things. You've got to go.
Have you always wanted to be a comedian?
I wanted to be a baseball player, then a doctor.
Were there comedians you emulated growing up?
Bob Newhart was a guy I liked a lot. He hosted SNL in the mid 70's. He's the squarest, cleanest-cut guy in the world. But he is really, really funny. I think Jack Benny had a groove. Great timing. Those guys were funny, but most comedians go through a period where they're funny, and then they're not funny.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:09 [#00973984]
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When you look back at your own years on SNL, what do you remember most?
It was the first time I had something like people who go into the army have. We were a band of people who were loyal to each other and worked long hours to do something that was ground-breaking and got enormous recognition. It changed everything. It had a huge impact on television in America - and we didn't have time to enjoy it, because we had to go and do the next week's job. We didn't know what impact it was having until it was over. We knew it was popular, but we didn't realise how much impact it had until we were done working.
Do you watch the show now?
Yeah, I watch it occasionally. But having worked on Saturday night for so many years, I now feel like I deserve Saturday off! I don't sit and watch television, you know? I don't do anything regularly. But I watch it sometimes and there are funny people in there. Some very funny people have come through that place.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:10 [#00973986]
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You seem to have an easier time with fame than your contemporaries. You don't seem to fight it as much.
I had great help in that area - I was able to go in behind John Belushi and Dan Akroyd. They were my friends and they were famous the year before I was. I got to see them, and the truth is, that anybody that becomes famous is an ass for a year and a half. You've got to give them a year and a half, two years. They are getting so much smoke blown, and their whole world gets turned upside down, their own responses become distorted. I give everybody a year or two to pull it together because, when it first happens, I know how it is. But I got to see those guys and I was still their friend, and they were acting like that around me, and I was like, "Oh man, come on." And when I went to work, they were still a year and a half ahead of me, at the next level. Nothing can prepare you for it. But I was lucky. To be right behind it was a real blessing for me.
What are you up to now?
I'm in my afterglow right now. But I'm going to start on another movie in two weeks. The Life Aqautic, for Wes Anderson.
What do you play in that?
I'm blond. I play a Jacques Cousteau-like figure. Who's (strokes his eyebrow and strikes a pouty male model pose) blond.
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:11 [#00973987]
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Are you afraid of getting older, of losing relevance?
I read a great thing about ageing once by Henry Miller called I'm Turning 80. He said, "People think if you get to be 80, you're old, you're sad. But when you're 80, you know how to act 80. You also know how to act ten, fifteen, thirty, fifty. You can always act ten. You can always flirt with a younger woman. You now have just a bit more... you can be 80."
Why do you think even great comedians lose their edge?
I think part of it is fame. Fame is a great negative for many people it's difficult to overpower the pressure and flood of false information that comes from it. It's the worst thing. Most people think if you get famous then you have nothing to worry about. What I tell people is this: "If you want to be rich and famous, why not just try rich?"
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 08:11 [#00973988]
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Phew. Marlowe, you better read that.
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-12-02 08:14 [#00973993]
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POST WHORE!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-02 08:25 [#00974013]
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oo, i'll definitely erad this interview!!!
when i get home...was it made after lost in translation was filmed?
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Jarworski
from The Grove (United Kingdom) on 2003-12-02 09:41 [#00974075]
Points: 10836 Status: Lurker | Followup to tolstoyed: #00974013
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Yeah.
Here's the pic that accompanied the interview:
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