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i think before van nistelrooy scored there was an offense on zidane and it should be a free kick for madrid but all in all it went pretty good, so i cant be too sorry i hope they'll manage to score in manchester (at least one goal, cus i dont think united can score more than 2) |
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what a match between Real and Manchester yetserday! Grat football! Starry football with starry champions. Zidane was awesome... it seems he dance on the field. |
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how come juve let him go? |
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$? i think he wasnt too happy in juve anymore... |
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hey, boy! those real madrid boys sure took some class to the chimps from manchester. Raul, figo and zidane play like giants while midgets manchester flounder in the dirt. Think me that beckham will have little to keep him warm tonight :) |
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hehe perhaps they thought its going to be another easy victory (alike the liverpool one) perhaps they were tired... perhaps madrid is a better team :) |
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wow! For sure, manchester are not champions of the world but perhaps someday? Away goal could still prove them triumphant. |
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3-0 would mean the end but that 3-1 leaves it all openned imagine if manchester scores in the first half in old trafford... I think anything could happen but of course this is looking ery well for madrid |
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surely realy can score an away goal!? manchester have a strong team, but i like to watch madrid playing, so i really hope they can win this :) |
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realy=real |
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United really didnt deserve to be playing on the same field as Real Madrid yesterday, the gulf in class was that enormous. A fair result would have been 5 or 6-1 but the ref helped United alot, Real should have had 3 penalties (foul on Ronaldo, Barthez handling outside the area, etc.....+Zidane was fouled before United scored their goal. I predicted exactly right a 3-1 for Real. I also predicted 2-1 for Ajax against Milan but that ended 0-0, but still due to the away goals rule 0-0 is actually the same as a 2-1 home victory because Milan need to score once to advance. My other predictions for tonight were Inter-Valencia 1-1 Juve-Barcelona 2-1 and they will come true :) |
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he wanted change team and his wife wasn't happy more to stay in Turin city. |
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btw: at 99% nedved will play tonight! i'm so excited... i can't wait ;) probably nedved will be not a 100% of condition but nedved is always nedved. nacmat, juve is ready for the match and you? |
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great stats indeed I see you are spying barça´s website... I am ready for today´s match woofer!! I want barça to win, but I will at least be happy for you if we loose. great match indeed between two greats of europe. |
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barça trophies: **1 Copa d'Europa 1991/92 ** 4 Recopes d'Europa 1978/79, 81/82, 88/89, 96/97 ** 3 UEFA (C. de Fires) 1957/58, 59/60, 65/66 ** 16 Lligues ** 24 Copes del Rei ** 2 Supercopes d'Europa 1992/93, 1997/98 |
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juve trophies: **26 SCUDETTI **9 Coppa Italia **3 Coppa di Lega 1995 - 1997 - 2002 **1 Coppa delle Coppe 1983/84 **2 Coppa dei Campioni 1984/85 - 1995/96 **2 Supercoppa Europea 1985 - 1996 **3 Coppa UEFA 1976/77 - 1989/90 - 1992/93 **2 Coppa Intercontinentale 1985 - 1996 |
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MOST IMPORTANT .................................juve/barça country leagues.............26/16 country cup....................9/24 ____________________________ EUROPE champions league............2/1 uefa cup..........................3/3 cup winners cup............... 1/4 european supercup...........2/2 intercontinental cup...........2/0 |
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The first team in the actual Italian league against the first team in this champion's league edition. Who will win? Saviola vs DelPiero Overmars vs Nedved Kluivert vs Zalayeta Antic vs Lippi Great football tonight... |
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i didn't remember who you lose the intercontinental cup... which was that final? against who? |
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I didnt mention supercup of spain or italy or league cup of either country as I thiink they are minor trophies so among the most important cups: self country (league and cup) international (champions, uefa, cup winners cup, european super cup and intercontinental) these are the totals: .................................juve/barça country leagues.............26/16 country cup....................9/24 total country trophies......35/40* *Iknow the league is the real important thing ____________________________ EUROPE champions league............2/1 uefa cup..........................3/3 cup winners cup............... 1/4 european supercup...........2/2 intercontinental cup...........2/0 total international cups......10/10 I think they are very similar teams |
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sao paulo 2-1 (rai scored twice for the brazilians and stoichkov for barça) |
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A stupid question now... Deportivo is stronger than Barça? Gulp... i hope you answer will be "NO"... *woofie is scared...* |
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yes, deportivo is nowadays much better team than barça but history means a lot in this cases and juve´s history was so much better than deportivo´s that this experience made juve go through its the same with barça, though deportivo is much better (nowadays) , barça´s experience and history has made them get further than deportivo now barça and juve meet with a similar history and experience so only quality and technic will make the diference... and sadly for me I think that at this point juve is better go barça!! |
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Ok, now I go... I hope we will see a great fair match and especially a great show! win the best and the luckier ;) Have a nice match and see you tomorrow for the first comments :) go juve go!!! |
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I hope the same.... lets see a nice match |
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hehe, neither juve or barca doesnt stand a chance against madrid :)) it would be better for barca to loose against juve-imagine what a disapointment it would be when real would put them out in the semi finals :) this will sound terrible, but neither juve or barca didnt impress me... nedved surely had a bad day (probably because of the injury), trezeguet is missing badly, del pier had some nice moves, but it was one of their bad performances today -IMO barcelona-saviola is the only one capable of wining a game, but if he doesnt get the ball by his team mates he cant score-kluivert doesnt try as hard as he used to-he leaves all the work to saviola...xavi had a bad game, overmars had some good moments...barca can be realy happy with that goal my conclusion-if both teams will play at the same level agains united or real they dont stand much chance IMO. nacmat, do you perhaps know what was the result of the first game between barca and real this season? (was it 0-0?) looking forward to april 20th-always great to watch barca-real games, it really speeds up my heart beat! :) |
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yes it was 0-0 you think too high of madrid I cant tell what will happen in the future, I prefer waiting and seing it then woofer, I am waiting for your opinion on the match I think it was a very phisical game, with few chances, and for me the 1-1 is fair |
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Saviola strike boosts Barça Wednesday, 09 April 2003 Javier Saviola's late strike gave FC Barcelona the advantage at the Stadio Delle Alpi, scoring a crucial away goal to take back to Spain for the second leg of their UEFA Champions League quarter-final against Juventus FC. Javier Saviola celebrates his equalising goal against Juventus FC Montero strikes Paolo Montero put the Italians ahead on 16 minutes but, with Barcelona's first real chance of the match, Saviola struck to make the Spanish side favourites to advance to a semi-final against either Real Madrid CF or Manchester United FC. Nedved plays The influential Czech midfield player Pavel Nedved shrugged off a thigh injury to start but Juve were without David Trezeguet as coach Marcello Lippi surprisingly started with just one recognised striker in Alessandro Del Piero. ... |
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... Montero on target After a ragged opening period the Serie A leaders began to assert themselves and went ahead on 16 minutes. Nedved swung in a cross from the left which was met by Montero. The centre-back headed the ball down to Del Piero whose overhead kick was blocked by the Barcelona keeper Roberto Bonano. The loose ball, however, fell back to Montero who rifled a shot high into the goal. Tudor miss Juventus came into the match with the worst record of all the teams in the last eight and, having struggled in particular on their travels, were desperate to get off to a strong start. Mauro Camoranesi almost engineered the cushion of a second goal on 32 minutes, combining well with Igor Tudor before sending in a cross that the Croatian headed over from six metres. Buffon confident At the other end, Juve keeper Gianluigi Buffon was in confident mood, dominating his area as Marc Overmars and Michael Reiziger looked to open the Juve defence from the flanks. The Spanish side, however, were restricted to efforts from distance, and a Patrick Kluivert header and long-range strike from Riquelme aside, Barcelona rarely theatened before the break. Xavi comes close Eight minutes after the restart that changed. Overmars crossed deep from the right to Xavi Hernández who hit a left-foot volley with power but straight at Buffon. Two minutes later, however, Juve might have made it safe. Gianluca Zambrotta cut the ball back to Davids whose shot was blocked but the ball broke to Del Piero who drew an excellent diving save from Bonano. Saviola strikes But it was the Spanish side that struck next. On 78 minutes Reiziger broke down the left and cut the ball back to Saviola. The Argentinian striker swept the ball goalwards and it deflected off Montero and low past Buffon for a crucial away goal. Late Di Vaio miss As Juve pushed forward, Patrick Kluivert found space to dart into the area and Buffon had to race off his line to save well with his legs. Then deep into injury time Marcelo Zalayeta's cushioned |
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...Then deep into injury time Marcelo Zalayeta's cushioned header sent Marco Di Vaio through on goal, but the substitute put his shot wide and with it may have gone Juve's chances of a semi-final place. |
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Yeah, it was a fair match with few goal occasions for both the team. Juve play well only the 1st half. I risked a collapse when Di Vaio shoot out the last ball in front of Bonano. I liked Puyol, great player... i'd like to have him in Juve, with Montero and Thuram, it would be an invincible defense. Nedved didn't play very well 'cos the injury was too recent. We will see another match in Nou Camp and probably Juve will say goodbye to this champion's league edition :-) |
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dont loose hope... barça is not great at cam nou (I mean is not like having to go to bernabeu... its a field where barça has already lost several times this year) |
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hey these were my predictions before the matches. I got two correct results: my predictions: manchester - madrid... 1-0 barça - juve................ 1-1 **** ajax - milan................ 0-0 **** inter - valencia............ 0-1 I think I won the bets... who else? |
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My prediction: oo, woofer got two results too Real-Man Utd 2-2 Juve-Barcelona 1-1 **** Inter-Valencia 1-0 **** Ajax-Milan 2-1 |
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I mean that was woofer´s prediction |
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Yeah, I guess 2 results :) |
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Anyway I agree with Tolstoyed, neither Juve and Barça has chance to win against Real Madrid or Manchester U. These team are superiors :-/ |
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Here below my votes. I don't understand why when they play in the Italian league they're invicibles, in champion's league they're like "chickens". 1. Buffon______ 6,5 2. Ferrara______ 6 3. Zambrotta___ 6,5 4. Thuram_____ 5,5 5. Montero_____ 6,5 6. Tudor_______ 5,5 7. Davids______ 5,5 8. Tacchinardi___ 5 9. Camoranesi__ 5 10. DelPiero____ 6 11. Nedved_____ 6 12. Zalayeta____ 5 13. Birindelli____ 6 14. Di Vaio_____ 5 (for the last error!) C.T. Lippi______ 5 (i didn't like his decisions) |
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I made an error... Tacchinardi 6 |
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yeah, they play a lot better in the italian serie a, its weirs really-and same goes for real and barcelona in spanish championship by seeing them in european games i would say madrid could win easily, but when they play against each other, its not all that big difference, i guess they just know each other too good... and nedved and del piero are not classic strikers, its weird di vaio or zalayeta didnt start the game...and the way lippi changed zambrotta!??, he was one of the best players on the field! (perhaps he was injured?) anyway nedved is playing much better in the serie a, he can easily decide each match imo barcelona was playing the only way i saw them play in the last year-all they're doing is trying to pass the ball up to saviola and let him do all the work... all antic did is improve their deffence, but there is still no big difference in their game (at least from the games i saw them). |
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totally agree with all things you said |
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woofer, do you perhaps remember what was the result of the first match between roma and juventus this season? also, do you know how badly trezeguet is injured? will he play later in this season? |
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antic indeed has improved the defence. but barça dont rely its game on saviola at all... kluivert is much more important... and the way overmars breaks by his side. barça has improved in defence but also in the fact that now every player knows what he has to do... with van gall the chaos was such that we didnt play a shit its true anyway that barcelona doesnt play a good football, but now its difficult to make them a goal, and saviola and kluivert are back to their scoring skills (with van gaal none of them scored at all this season) so they can really win anybody if they have a nice day (remember 3-0 to inter) |
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about trezeguet: last news, say who he should stay ou for about 15/20 days. No surgicals for him. about roma-juve... i'm checking... well... Roma-Juventus = 2 - 2 |
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i dont know about kluivert-i remember last season and one previous to that, i was always kind of scared (when they played against madrid) when kluivert got the ball, he was really good (one of the best strikers at that time), but i get this feeling that he's not trying anymore since saviola started to play more-these two cant play together it seems kluivert used to be alone in attack backed up with rivaldo and overmars, and he had ideas of what to do, but it looks like now with saviola playing alongside he just cant play like he used to...perhaps this will improve in the next season, it probably just takes some time for these two to get to know each other?? anyway, im sure they can win anyone if they have a good day, all best 16 teams in europe are pretty equal regarding quality so almost anyone can beat another (tho im kind of hoping for real to win hehe) |
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hmm, i was kind of hoping roma won hehe... trezeguet will be ready for the juve-roma game then eh? its not looking good for inter then...tho they're playing much better in the past couple of games well, im almost certain juve will win the league, but i still kind of hope inter can come back :) |
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sorry mate, but I have seen every match barça has played since 1984 (yes) well not every match but probably 80% of them. about kluivert and saviola, they have no problem togother, I mean they are totally different styles, barça needs kluivert cos he keeps the position and is good at distributing the ball in the attack... and saviola is fast moving, and better (maybe) when having to score, so lets say that the ball starts at xavi, then it must go to overmars, riguelmer, motta (or whoever) and then to kluivert, who at last gives it to saviola to score. this doesnt happen always, but it is kind of a normal procedure. against juve: kluivert opens a great pass to reiziger (surprise for the juve defenders) and he passes to saviola who luckily scores. in this goal the error that juve makes is caused cos kluivert makes that great pass to reiziger, who was not supposed to be there, and thats why montero is then late to stop saviola. "kluivert thinks, saviola kills" so this is my opinion, they have no problems in playing together, the problem is that barcelona is a team that in general (overall) they have been playing very bad these years (last 3 years) and above all this last season. now with Antic we dont play better (hes been here just 1 or 2 months so he needs time) but at least they have an order and they keep it and they are good at defence and striking back. its all the team that you see with lack of ideas, not only kluivert, he and saviola pay for the rest of the problems (which in my opinion start with xavi who is not doing good this year and with the absence of cocu) |
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every journalist in spain agreed that against juve : puyol and kluivert were the best of the team. |
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