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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-18 08:26 [#00601919]
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huh, i totally forgot about that-im still at work and i doubt i'll be home by that time-damn, i was planning on watching it like usual 20.45, well, hmm, i better hurry-thanks for a reminder !
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-18 11:19 [#00602298]
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Today Basel-Juve... Finally DelPiero will back!!! C'mon DelPiero... make the show!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-18 11:26 [#00602312]
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nacmat-are oyu watching real-lokomotiva match? whats the result?
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rez
from here on 2003-03-18 11:36 [#00602328]
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Lokomotiv 1-1 Madrid Milan 1-2 Dortmund Basel 2-2 Juventus Deportivo 1-1 Man. United Leverkusen 1-3 Inter Newcastle 3-2 Barcelona Roma 0-0 Ajax Valencia 1-1 Arsenal
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nacmat
on 2003-03-18 12:24 [#00602380]
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real madrid won 1-0
lucky mardid
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-18 12:26 [#00602384]
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yeah, nice one-i heard lokomotiv had initiative all the time...
i just go home and caught the end
happy happy happy
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nacmat
on 2003-03-18 12:31 [#00602392]
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the end was cardiac for madrid supporteres
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-18 12:34 [#00602396]
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me as well :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-18 14:37 [#00602627]
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hehe, looks like basel went for the whole 500.000,00 :)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-18 17:41 [#00602866]
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what was the score of that match?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-18 17:42 [#00602869]
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2-1 for basel
boring game, beyond belive :)
del piero made some nice moves!
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nacmat
on 2003-03-18 18:30 [#00602934]
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manchester 13 juve ............7 basel ...........7 deportivo.....7
very lucky juve with that tudor goal against deportivo
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nacmat
on 2003-03-18 18:31 [#00602938]
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in both leagues milan won the first 4 matches and then, once qualified in first position they lost the next two matches
casualty
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-18 18:32 [#00602940]
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yeah, but im pretty sure they would have won today if they needed to...
but yeah, tudors goal was crucial
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nacmat
on 2003-03-18 18:33 [#00602942]
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these will be the rivals that barça can find in the 1/4 finals:
madrid juve arsenal, ajax, roma, valencia
I wish it was ajax I wouldnt like a spanish team and juve and arsenal are too much for barça
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-18 18:34 [#00602944]
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hmm, it would be a shame if barca-real match would be up so early...
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nacmat
on 2003-03-18 18:50 [#00602966]
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and it will be the end of barça´s adventure in this champions
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nacmat
on 2003-03-18 18:50 [#00602967]
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will = would
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-19 00:20 [#00603199]
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I didn't like Juve yesterday but anyway it wasn't the real Juve, they weren't much concentrated. DelPiero started well, imo.
I saw some players interview, and it seems they would like to play against Barça, 'cos it's a prestigious history macth full of adrenaline and prestige.
btw: I think Barça would kick Juve out of this cup without much problems...
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nacmat
on 2003-03-19 05:06 [#00603435]
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we have the same problem you had some weeks ago... lots of injured players (some really important ones)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 04:30 [#00605371]
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newcastle 0 barça ......2
leverkussen 0 inter............2
valencia 2 arsenal..1
roma.....1 ajax......1
barcelona has won every match except for the draw in san siro
valencia is great!! incredible that arsenal is out now
ajax: great young team among the best 8, congrats to koeman´s players
this is: ....... spain vs italy
Madrid - 9 cups (3 in the last 5 years) Barça - 1 cup (twice semifinalist in last 3 years) Valencia - twice finalist in the last 3 years
Milan - 5 cups (the return of the giant) Inter - 2 cups (again in the elite) Juve - 2 cups (one of the best teams in the 90's with 3 finals)
Manchester - 2 cups .champion in 1999
Ajax - 4 cups. long time since last final back in 1996
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 15:08 [#00606450]
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Élite to gather for Nyon draw Thursday, 20 March 2003 Eight of Europe's most revered and decorated clubs will discover their quarter-final opponents when the draw for the knockout stage of the UEFA Champions League is made at the House of European Football in Nyon, Switzerland at 12.30CET on Friday.
Italian first Valencia CF, the only team left in the competition yet to win a European Champion Clubs' Cup, reached the last eight on Wednesday night along with four-times winners AFC Ajax and Internazionale FC, who have twice lifted club football's greatest prize. The Nerazzurri's safe passage means Italy has three representatives at this stage for the first time, AC Milan and Juventus FC having also advanced.
Unbeaten record Between them, the Italian challengers have won nine European Cups, equalling Real Madrid CF's own sum of success. The Spanish masters have emerged victorious in three of the last five Champions Leagues - a run punctuated by Manchester United FC's triumph in 1999 and that of FC Bayern München in 2001. United, whose Old Trafford stadium will host the final on 28 May, are in the hunt again this year, while FC Barcelona, defending an unbeaten record, complete the élite octet.
Spanish showdown? The quarter-final matches are scheduled to take place on 8/9 and 22/23 April, and the clubs will learn their fate at lunchtime tomorrow. The four group winners - Barça, Valencia, Milan and United - will be drawn against one of the runners-up, who will be at home in the first leg. They cannot meet the second-placed team from their section, though matches between clubs from the same country are permitted. Thus, Milan could play Inter or Juve, and Madrid have a two in three chance of squaring off against a fellow Spanish side.
'Desire to win' Madrid will be paired with either United, Valencia or Barcelona, in what would be a repeat of last season's semi-final. The holders qualified behind Milan in Group C after winning 1-0 at FC Lokomotiv Moskva on Tuesday, and their coach, Vicente
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 15:08 [#00606451]
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Vicente del Bosque, said of his team's potential quarter-final opponents: "If we have to play a Spanish side, I don't really mind. I respect all the teams, I know that anyone we meet is going to have the same desire to win [the Champions League] as we have."
Koeman wants return While Del Bosque is taking the draw in his stride, Ajax coach Ronald Koeman has made no secret of his desire to return to Camp Nou. A European Cup winner with Barça in 1992, the Dutchman said: "In the quarter-finals I would like to play Barcelona, but that is a personal view." Sir Alex Ferguson, the United manager, added: "I would be happy enough to face Real Madrid. I believe Manchester United would be a challenge for them."
Semi-final draw The quarter-final draw will be followed immediately by that for the semi-finals. There will be no seeds in the last four and the first team drawn will play its first match at home. Two balls saying 'Winners of semi-final 1' and 'Winners of semi-final 2' will then be placed in a bowl. The first team picked will be the home side in the Old Trafford final. Both draws will take place live on uefa.com on Friday.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-20 15:58 [#00606512]
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nice reviews and comments
the one i noticed the most is the comment by ferguson-i'd also like to see real - man.utd match, i dont think united would stand much chance tho :)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 16:02 [#00606516]
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beckam...................... figo van nistelroy...............ronaldo veron.........................zidane scholes.......................raul makelele.....................keane
I dont see it so good for madrid
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-20 16:08 [#00606523]
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that scholes-raul makes all the difference :)
players are great in both teams, but as a team real works much better, imo
and del bosque is not affraid to take chances... real have raul and zidane that can decide the match united only have van nistelroy
at least this is what i see :)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 16:10 [#00606526]
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I also think madrid is better
but maybe for me manchester is more a team and madrid is more a group of stars
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-20 16:12 [#00606528]
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yeah people usualy say that-it is completly normal with names like that, but honestly-i see them play perfectly as a team
a part of me wish that madrid wouldn't be so strong, but when they get out in the field they just impress me each time-nothing i'd rather do but watch the game when they're playing :)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 16:15 [#00606530]
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if I had to rate all the 8 teams, in order of winning the cup chances:
Madrid Milan Manchester Valencia Juve Barça Ajax Inter
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-20 16:19 [#00606535]
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my choice would be
madrid man utd milan valencia juventus barcelona inter ajax
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nacmat
on 2003-03-20 16:20 [#00606536]
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lol quite similar except for your manchester loving
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-20 16:26 [#00606542]
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hehe, cant finish much different i think appart from real winning anything is opened tho :)
aint i a true real fan!?
(funny thing is i usually dont like to cheer for the strongest sportsman or team, but im making exception here, i used to do the same when ayrton senna was racing)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-21 00:49 [#00606880]
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Manchester Utd. Real Madrid Barcellona Valencia Juventus Milan Ajax Inter Inter
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-21 00:53 [#00606885]
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btw: I think you overestimate Milan my friends, this team was really strong in the last matches of 2002, but in 2003 is doing very bad. I don't think it will be so dangerous for other team in champion's league...
Anyway, tomorrow great football in Italy with Milan-Juventus :)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-21 00:56 [#00606886]
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12:30... the draw...
I hope in the followings matches... they will be the best for show, imo:
Manchester Utd. - Real Madrid Barcellona - Juventus Milan - Ajax Valencia - Inter
I hope to avoid all kind of derby between Italians and between Spanish
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-21 01:39 [#00606908]
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when inzaghi and shevchenko are playing milan seems pretty strong to me :)
and looking forward to milan-juventus match...
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nacmat
on 2003-03-21 02:46 [#00606970]
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rivaldo is doing nothing in milan he should retire
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-21 03:11 [#00607011]
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i never liked rivaldo too much, he's good but not that great, i also dislike him as a person (as much as i know him)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-21 03:16 [#00607017]
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he has skills but he is bad for a team, he has no football view
when I say football view I mean: zidane (he scores no more than 10 goals a year, but still he is considered the best, why? cos he creates football)
rivaldo doesnt create football, he just shows his skills (and not that much lately)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-21 03:21 [#00607029]
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i agree with you
(some years back he was playing pretty good in barcelona tho)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-21 03:25 [#00607033]
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he was very important for barcelona.
but I tell you something:
the better barcelona plaid the worst he did.
I will explain this:
he is a great skillfull player, but he just plays for him, so if the team is lost, if there is no answer, he is the solution, he can solve a complicated match with a freekick, or a incredible trick
but if the team played well, as a team, fast passing, then he was like always stoping the rythim and the speed of the game, still looking for his personal game, breaking the flow of the team.
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nacmat
on 2003-03-21 03:28 [#00607036]
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I am so nervous about the draw
I wouldn like real madrid as a rival now
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-03-21 03:30 [#00607038]
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i never really thought about this, but yeah-for what i can remember he was always trying to impress, and it makes perfect sense regarding how barcelona was playing at that time
he is definitely a bit too full of him self (even now in milan)
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-21 03:57 [#00607065]
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Milan situation for me:
Shevchenko: One of my fav player, but he's passing really a bad period. He doesn't play much now and it's a little bit disappointed. Unfortunately he's very distant from Shevchenko of 2 years ago.
Rivaldo: I think he plays really well only in Brasil. It's at 30% now.
Inzaghi: He scores a lot of games but make a lot of errors too. I know him well 'cos he played in Juve for many years. Not very good technic but great opportunist.
Dida/Abbiate: In my opinion, Milan hasn't a great goal keeper has others big team. They don't convince me.
Tomasson: He doesn't play much in Milan, it's difficult to find space there.
In the complex a good team but with problems in defense and some in the midfield. Probably the better thing is the attack (in this momenti)
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nacmat
on 2003-03-21 04:01 [#00607068]
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but also:
rui costa seedorf pirlo maldini
for me this is the strengh of this team
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-21 04:03 [#00607072]
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Draws are really near... I don't want a derby with Milan... I don't want a derby with Milan, I don't want a derby with Milan...
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nacmat
on 2003-03-21 04:04 [#00607074]
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I want your juve soul!!!!
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nacmat
on 2003-03-21 04:05 [#00607077]
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which means I want a barça - juve
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2003-03-21 04:11 [#00607089]
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When Rui Costa plays bad (and it's often...) he's really a damage for Milan.
Rui Costa played really well only in Fiorentina two years ago.
Pirlo is pretty good (especially to score penalty) but he doesn't make the difference.
Seedorf is very good and he's playing well.
Maldini is playing well too, but unfortunately he's a little bit old (same story of Ferrara in Juve)
I repeat if Rivaldo, Shevchenko, Rui Costa, Inzaghi, Tomasson, would play as they are able to do, Milan would be almost invincible, but at this moment it's a strong team but nothing more.
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nacmat
on 2003-03-21 04:15 [#00607096]
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in spain people have a high opinion on milan...
in spain this is the fear we have in order:
1st milan 2nd juve 3rd inter
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