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offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-08-08 13:03 [#02637587]
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my goodness what is it with nazis and argentina


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-08-08 13:05 [#02637588]
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anyways here try some readtube it is like breadtube
without the b

Venezuela’s opposition yet again cries fraud in the 28
July presidential but fails to provide evidence. Meanwhile,
hundreds of thousands of Chavistas, their frustrations
grounded in the understanding that the US-hybrid war is the
root of the crisis, take to the streets and chant no
volverán: they [the oligarchy] will not return.



 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-05 14:59 [#02638214]
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Voting During the Genocide - BadEmpanada


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-09-05 20:39 [#02638224]
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Exploring City of Wuxi


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-09-05 20:40 [#02638225]
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(it's long but it starts with a montage of highlights)


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-06 07:29 [#02638241]
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how capitalist is China? hasn't income inquality exploded
there, and doesn't it keep getting worse?

i hate 'china bad' as much as the next socialist, but still


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-09-06 12:22 [#02638243]
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As I said to Wolfslice, in the West capital is in the
driver's seat and the people are in the gas tank. In China
the people are in the driver''s seat and capital is in the
gas tank.

China Has Billionaires

If you can't handle a read, Carlos Martinez has a series of
three interviews on Actually Existing Socialism that discuss
China starting here.


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2024-09-07 03:15 [#02638260]
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when you're indoctrinated into weird parasocial
relationships with a multitude of identities that have been
engineered into being your society's sacred cows & children,
you typically tend to virtue signal over them, either out of
fear, demented pathological altruism, or full blown
narcissism. assuming you've been indoctrinated (and a little
mentally ill), that is. politics & ideology are mostly
low-tier manifestations of psychological expressions, hence
why it's completely inane to look at politic & ideology
through the lens of, well...politic & ideology. then again,
abstraction does not seem to be a strong suit for those that
gravitate towards "leftism" as they call it these days (what
would they have called it 500 years ago? 1000 years ago?
5000 years ago? 10,000 years ago? hmmm?)


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-09-07 06:56 [#02638268]
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I can gather what you're trying to say because I recognise
the buzzwords you're using, but this is a remarkably
incoherent collection of sentences! Care to go over it
again?


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-07 08:24 [#02638269]
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i'm now reading Ministry of the Future. it's pretty
explain-y, maybe a bit much for a novel, but I guess so is
Dune. anyway: ideology is a framework for abstracting
reality. you can't go without, really


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-07 08:24 [#02638270]
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is a thing explained


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-07 08:27 [#02638271]
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maybe i'll read/watch

but what you're saying vibes with my feeling about china

i did watch the intro. it was a bit unsettling to me,
honestly

so i read SF all the time, so i guess i'm tech-forward. but
mostly when i see it irl, these tech-y, or otherwise forward
things, like for instance architecture, i feel it looks
dystopian


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-07 09:34 [#02638272]
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the news of the day: "Right-wing US influencers say they were
victims of alleged Russian plot"

bit of an odd title, though they are saying that. Tucker
Carlson, Tim Pool, Dave Rubin were shilling, but are
claiming to be a victim. they were shilling allegedly, but
the DOJ doesn't indict them for nothing. the article gives
enough proof

i guess and hope they're done now. but others will take
their place


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-07 09:36 [#02638273]
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it's those right wing influencers and others. i'm guessing
someone like Pool is done now, Carlson is probably like a
cockroach that won't go away; he's a bit smarter


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-09-07 09:44 [#02638274]
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In a response to a request for comment on the indictment,
RT's press team said: "2016 called and it wants its clichés
back".


lmao what a thing to say, you can really see how every troll
and paid liar's learned their style from them.


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-07 10:25 [#02638275]
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it's bonkers


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-07 10:59 [#02638276]
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You were LIED TO about the "Triggered Feminist" meme lady...

bit parasocial, but i wanna marry her


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-09-07 11:42 [#02638277]
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I read this passage in the new translation of Losurdo's book
on Western Marxism and thought of this discussion:

Let's try to formulate an initial summary of the
different forms that Marxism takes in Europe and in Asia.
According to Merleau-Ponty, Marx imagined “a
noncapitalistic future” that he hoped would be an
“absolute Other.” This vision, well-represented in
Western Marxism, is absent in the East. The underdeveloped
countries, before they can completely tear down capitalism,
first must, and want to, enjoy the “miracle” of the
wonderful development of the productive forces that the
Communist Manifesto rightly attributes to that social
system. We find Mao in 1940 declaring that the revolution he
was promoting, before moving on to socialism must “clear
the way for capitalist development,” even if a capitalism
strictly controlled by a political power and by a party
determined to go well beyond it in carrying out the
revolutionary transformation of the existing society. For
the Chinese Communist leader, the post-capitalist future is
not an “absolute Other” to the regime that it is
intended to replace; more than a total negation, we find
ourselves before a sort of Hegelian Aufhebung, a negation
that carries with it, even if in a radically new context,
the heritage of the high points of that which is negated. It
is a question of transcending capitalism but without
compromising. It further strengthens the capacity for
developing the productive forces to which it gives
impetus.



 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-07 20:11 [#02638284]
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Nikocado Avocado is skinny!


 

online dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-09-08 00:54 [#02638296]
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i mean she would also have been justified yelling at the
racist shit stirrer. but the lesson here is: never engage
with idiots trying to disrupt your protest, especially if
they're waving a camera in your face, and let the muscle
handle it.


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-08 07:46 [#02638303]
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true


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-08 07:59 [#02638306]
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in ministry of the future india gives a middle finger to the
west and also proceeds to revolutionize their agroculture,
actually making it communist. climate justice (and economic
justice) will vibe badly together with neocolonialism and
imperialism


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-09-08 14:49 [#02638321]
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That's not science fiction, that's fantasy. Too many
Hindutva fascists.

more Losurdo on China


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-09 09:47 [#02638343]
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that's explained away quickly

the book starts with (spoilers for beginning of Ministry for
the Future) a heat wave that kills 3 million Indian people.
it's quite a good chapter. in the later chapter i mentioned
it's explained that BJP was in power wheb that happened, so
they get blamed (not too rationally, but politics isn't). so
then a broad coalition comes into power. and there's other
factions as well


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-09-09 12:27 [#02638349]
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big, if 300 million Indians die in a heat wave it will be
blamed on Muslims, they'll have anti Muslim pogroms, and the
BJP will announce closer ties with Israel and the US


 

offline RussellDust on 2024-09-09 13:18 [#02638351]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-09 13:32 [#02638356]
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here's a jacobin interview with the writer of Ministry of
the Future (and many more books), Kim Stanley Robinson:
LAZY_TITLE

"Kim Stanley Robinson Imagines a Future Where We Don’t All
Die"

i liked this interview a lot when i read, which was a while
ago



 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-09 13:33 [#02638357]
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don't tread on my paws


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-09-10 13:57 [#02638397]
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2020 feels like decades ago

AMPI MAX used to quite rightly give me shit for linking to
Jacobin, but crucially, for the wrong reasons. His
critique such as it was came from the Blairite right.

Anyhow no comment on the content of that article but
jesus christ look at this shit


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2024-09-11 17:14 [#02638411]
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i'll just throw it out there that i'm a busy man i don't
have the time to be a poor winner i'm busy working here


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-09-11 18:42 [#02638412]
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Did u find work bro? Crisis averted? Good for you.


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-12 13:17 [#02638418]
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worst thing is they project it on Waltz, like he's not also
pro-genocide


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-09-14 08:01 [#02638435]
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October 7th: The Real History - BadEmpanada


 


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