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offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-12 02:12 [#02635376]
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"I loved the way the characters quoted scripture to suit
their own agenda at any given point."

Bev Keane is one of the all time great cinematic villains.
Thanos? Hannibal? They'd blanch at this woman's power hungry
ruthlessness.


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-12 11:57 [#02635383]
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can you give a tl;dw?


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-12 11:58 [#02635384]
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not trying to be mean, but doubt i can get myself to watch
this. something with it being a talking panel and about
israel, which is depressing


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-12 13:38 [#02635385]
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I posted it because you're a tube guy but this is
a better interview with the same guy, more in depth, about
the colonial roots of Zionism, Theodore Herzl, WW1, Sykes
Picot, the Balfour declaration etc.

There is a part 2 as well.

I know you'd rather watch a three hour youtube about
heteronormativity in Disney but cmon man


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2024-05-12 14:30 [#02635386]
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These are plausible opinions about subjects you weren't that
interested in until Hamas started having their ass handed to
them, and here's why you need to parrot them to your
boyfriend.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-12 15:21 [#02635387]
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roger why can't you just be the good kind of gay (homosex)
instead of the bad kind of gay (retarded)


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-12 15:22 [#02635388]
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i'll do my best

i'm big on the essays, you know


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-12 15:41 [#02635389]
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piece of shit bigot


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-12 16:10 [#02635390]
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i watched/listened to this

tl;dw is: f Western and US imperialism


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-12 22:55 [#02635398]
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sorry i think you should know that this stuff is produced by
actually insane people (and raging antisemites obviously). do not
engage.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-12 23:03 [#02635399]
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more about brian becker in particular

tony is either a deluded idiot or a sneaky piece of shit and
you should always treat anything he links you to with the
utmost suspicion.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-12 23:15 [#02635400]
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Keane was such a damn good character. 2nd favorite character
after Joe Collie. Keanes actress smoked it so hard that
I bet she's typecast as an autist with a stick up her ass
forevermore. What a great villian.

All of the monologues and especially the church sermons were
exceedingly well written.

Best moments of the show

Annie to Keane: you are not a good person.

And

Ooker: .......I think I killed my mom.....

Sturge: yeah, I done some fucked up shit tonight too.




 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-12 23:30 [#02635401]
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Oh thread is supposed to be about politics

Wolflice say Russia bad Hamas bad. Biden bad Trump bad.
Larry David good. autechre good.

College potestors pathetically woke soyboys and blue haired
militant feminazis who eat crickets and drink vegan milk.
Thoroughly unlovable people.

Breadtube turns your cock and balls into a tiny vagina. Some
low T motherfuckers.

*puts on NiN- heresy and drives off*


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-12 23:36 [#02635402]
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i dunno i thought larry david's crypto advert was pretty
cringe


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-12 23:41 [#02635403]
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Yeah I guarantee he regrets that one lol


 

offline mermaidman on 2024-05-12 23:49 [#02635404]
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bro are you sure you're from california? maybe it's time to
move to austin


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-12 23:57 [#02635405]
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Honestly I hate California's politics but Austin is just
about as "progressive." I'm not like an Alabama magatard
either so I don't really know where I'd fit.

I can tell you no one wants an a Californian Transplant
moving in though. Seen as a cockaroach nationwide.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-13 00:05 [#02635406]
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I'm basically a conservative that's trying to conserve my
20s on the early 2000s.

I got very dad the other day when I drove by an old
Blockbuster Video location where I'd used to rent a couple
of movies and then get a pizza next door. Just a small rush
of nostalgia. The blockbuster is now a physical therapy
Healthcare scam shop catering to Menlo Atherton
millionaires. The bay area is dead to me.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-13 00:06 [#02635407]
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I got very dad and very sad. I shouldn't post on my phone
ever. Nothings working out for ol wolfslice!


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-13 02:52 [#02635408]
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Sweetie, no.

Using chains of association that tenuous, Obama is even more
connected to LaRouche than Becker because LaRouche ran as a
Democrat and LaRouche minions have been elected as
Democrats.

From your article: "Not only is this idea that Israel
directs US policy rooted in anti-semitism, it also requires
ignoring the rather straight-forward fact that the State of
Israel is a US client state and serves to advance US
interests in the region."

Uh yeah this is the main point of the two part Becker
podcast you didn't listen to.

Anyways thanks for linking us to an anonymous Medium account
that only published one article, a hatchet job on a
socialist.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-13 02:57 [#02635409]
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Samantha Sloyan, the Bev actress, is also in Flanagan's
Haunting of Hill House but it's a small role. He tends to
reuse actors. I liked Hill House. If Midnight Mass is a 10
maybe Hill House is an 8.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-13 04:15 [#02635410]
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Interesting. I watched Hill House (liked it enough, though
didn't love it. Probably gave it like a 7?). I recognized
Robert Longstreet (the aforementioned Joe Collie) and
Anabeth Gish (Caretaker in Hill House, Doctor in Midnight
Mass, Monica Reyes in X files) immediately, they were the
caretakers in Hill House and imo the best characters of that
series.

But I cannot remember Keane in Hill House, even though she
was an absolute *STUD* in Midnight Mass. I mean it; she was
terrific. Definitely an oversight on my part.

Well, without question, Flannigan's sophmore work prevails
here. Midnight Mass was solid as a rock.


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:35 [#02635412]
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Patriarchy According to The Barbie Movie


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:39 [#02635413]
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he points out the antisemitism of that notion also in the
interview i watched/listened



 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:41 [#02635414]
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down with zionism, down with israel. free palestine



 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:47 [#02635416]
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and down with imperialism. living in the West i'm profiting
of it and the legacy of colonialism. i'm acknowledging that
and try to bring down these systems of oppression


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:55 [#02635417]
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Jewish people have been oppressed and genocided throughout
history, but there can't be an excuse for Israel doing these
same kind of atrocities to the Palestinian people.


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:57 [#02635418]
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easy to say for me, of course. but it needs to be said,
nonetheless, especially since the West has been looking
away, now and for decades


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-13 19:19 [#02635419]
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we've been over this before but this kind of rhetoric is on
the verge of antisemitism, and israel loves it when european
jews are made uncomfortable.
not only is there no point to this comparison here, you're
making it sound like antisemitic violence is a thing of the
past. or worse. because this is the exact sort of rhetoric
holocaust deniers use to get their foot in the door.
i understand that the west's weaponisation of accusations of
antisemitism against any form of pro-palestinian protest is
arbitrary, hypocritical and frustrating. but it's no reason
to dismiss these concerns. it's a trap they want you to fall
into.



 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-13 19:36 [#02635420]
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hopefully you'll also be aware that acts of antisemitic
violence in the west have quadrupled last year (tenfold
increase in october and november over here), as they do
every time israel get their war on, and you'll be concerned
about that and our rich and ongoing legacy of
disfranchisement and pogroms. it's not a rhetorical game.


 

offline mermaidman on 2024-05-13 19:43 [#02635421]
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yeah just look at what happened to the new york tunnel jews


 

offline mermaidman on 2024-05-13 19:45 [#02635422]
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the nypd closed their habitat


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-13 19:58 [#02635423]
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i mean yes that is a recent exemple of a completely unhinged
antisemitic campaign


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 00:09 [#02635424]
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the furthest extremes of the progressive left (and yes BIG
YOU ARE HERE. this is you)

1. so bent on lifting up muslims that they become anti
semitic

2. so bent on not being racist that they tell someone they
are the wrong color to wear dreadlocks (fucking racist,
bro.)

3. so bent on gender equity that they say "men this is not
your space" (sexist, bro)

4. so bent on dismantling the fascist police that they
patrol their own "free zones" with automatic weapons
(authoritarian and militant bro)

5. so bent on TELLING OTHERS WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG that
you become the very moral arbiters you hate on the far
right.

It's so fucking easy to see this. It doesn't take hours of
shitty right wing vidoes, it's overt and in your face. You
think you're on the right side of history big but it's
thankfully turning quickly now and very, very soon everyone
is going to laugh in your face if you hold on to this trash.


WOFL OUT


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 00:09 [#02635425]
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*not heresy this time but wolfslice drives off with a more
muted Autechre- Sim Gishel*


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 00:11 [#02635426]
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sim gishel sounds vaguely yiddish so probably deserves a
"campus walk off" if you hear it


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-14 02:51 [#02635431]
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thank you you're such a free thinker for saying the things
every god damn media is saying!


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-14 02:52 [#02635432]
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i'm the leftest person here fight me


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 07:09 [#02635433]
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no one here is gonna confuse you for right wing, dudette.

And yeah what I'm saying is the opposite of original. It is
in fact *patently obvious* to most people. You can
absolutely arrive at these conclusions without having to
resort to some ridiculous right wing blowhard youtuber. The
super extreme left has been around all my life, in the US.
We just didn't give them the time of day until like 2016. It
was an overreaction to Trump that did it, I think. They
confused a narcissistic buffoon with adolf hitler, and have
been confused and angry ever since.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 07:14 [#02635434]
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tide slowly but surely receding


 

offline mermaidman on 2024-05-14 09:52 [#02635435]
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white dude with dreadlocks is hilarious though


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-14 12:47 [#02635436]
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You're not wrong but what you're describing is liberalism.
Like Biden, dariusgriffin is a neoconservative about
anything that doesn't involve identity politics.

Woke liberalism and neoconservatism are compatible.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-14 13:16 [#02635437]
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yes, it's the nature of a dominant ideology to make itself
look like the most obvious good sense. it transfigures
complex and nuanced issues into readymade us versus them
narratives. any alternative is only ever deserving of a
sneer.

so forget your grievances for a minute and ask yourself: is
this the world you want?


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-14 13:25 [#02635438]
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Your post could be plausibly read in a Jordan Peterson
voice. It has the same vehement but content free quality as
his tweets. I wouldn't blink if he posted it. Bonus points
for "transfigures", very Petersonian diction.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2024-05-14 13:37 [#02635439]
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Also please don't listen to anything Tony says he's an
actually insane person who cheers for capital punishment and
the oct 7 attack. It's like he's been taken over by a bot.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-14 13:49 [#02635440]
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looooooool

You desperate ass motherfucker. You'll project any old
insanity on me.

Hey, you know who really supported Hamas?


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-15 06:17 [#02635441]
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i don't think antisemitism is a thing of the past. i don't
believe these numbers, though, institutions count too much
anti israel sentiment as antisemitism. it happens here in
the netherlands, where there's an state antisemitism
watchdog that i've at least seen equate the two in its
communications (i can't exactly know how they count stuff).


i'm not sure actions of israel increase antisemitism.

i guess this is where i want to point out how much the West
contributed to antisemitism (afaik even invented it)

i don't really know how i could communicate better. i do
want to use radical slogans. i try to be sensitive to
history and current things, but i can't reframe everything,
till the point where i can't say anything, just because
there's anti-semitic neonazi's or conspiracy believers


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-15 06:18 [#02635442]
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👍


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-15 06:20 [#02635443]
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antisemitic conspiracy believes, i guess i should say (since
the believers are often oblivious to their the antisemitism
they're peddling)


 

offline big from lsg on 2024-05-15 06:23 [#02635444]
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this is straw men

best i can say is focus on actually policies leftists
propose, instead of worrying about how things look or sound


 


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