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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-12 02:12 [#02635376]
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"I loved the way the characters quoted scripture to suit their own agenda at any given point."
Bev Keane is one of the all time great cinematic villains. Thanos? Hannibal? They'd blanch at this woman's power hungry ruthlessness.
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-12 11:57 [#02635383]
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can you give a tl;dw?
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-12 11:58 [#02635384]
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not trying to be mean, but doubt i can get myself to watch this. something with it being a talking panel and about israel, which is depressing
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-12 13:38 [#02635385]
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I posted it because you're a tube guy but this is a better interview with the same guy, more in depth, about the colonial roots of Zionism, Theodore Herzl, WW1, Sykes Picot, the Balfour declaration etc.
There is a part 2 as well.
I know you'd rather watch a three hour youtube about heteronormativity in Disney but cmon man
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2024-05-12 14:30 [#02635386]
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These are plausible opinions about subjects you weren't that interested in until Hamas started having their ass handed to them, and here's why you need to parrot them to your boyfriend.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-12 15:21 [#02635387]
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roger why can't you just be the good kind of gay (homosex) instead of the bad kind of gay (retarded)
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-12 15:22 [#02635388]
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i'll do my best
i'm big on the essays, you know
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-12 15:41 [#02635389]
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piece of shit bigot
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-12 16:10 [#02635390]
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i watched/listened to this
tl;dw is: f Western and US imperialism
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-12 22:55 [#02635398]
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sorry i think you should know that this stuff is produced by actually insane people (and raging antisemites obviously). do not engage.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-12 23:03 [#02635399]
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more about brian becker in particular
tony is either a deluded idiot or a sneaky piece of shit and you should always treat anything he links you to with the utmost suspicion.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-12 23:15 [#02635400]
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Keane was such a damn good character. 2nd favorite character after Joe Collie. Keanes actress smoked it so hard that I bet she's typecast as an autist with a stick up her ass forevermore. What a great villian.
All of the monologues and especially the church sermons were exceedingly well written.
Best moments of the show
Annie to Keane: you are not a good person.
And
Ooker: .......I think I killed my mom.....
Sturge: yeah, I done some fucked up shit tonight too.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-12 23:30 [#02635401]
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Oh thread is supposed to be about politics
Wolflice say Russia bad Hamas bad. Biden bad Trump bad. Larry David good. autechre good.
College potestors pathetically woke soyboys and blue haired militant feminazis who eat crickets and drink vegan milk. Thoroughly unlovable people.
Breadtube turns your cock and balls into a tiny vagina. Some low T motherfuckers.
*puts on NiN- heresy and drives off*
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-12 23:36 [#02635402]
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i dunno i thought larry david's crypto advert was pretty cringe
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-12 23:41 [#02635403]
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Yeah I guarantee he regrets that one lol
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mermaidman
on 2024-05-12 23:49 [#02635404]
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bro are you sure you're from california? maybe it's time to move to austin
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-12 23:57 [#02635405]
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Honestly I hate California's politics but Austin is just about as "progressive." I'm not like an Alabama magatard either so I don't really know where I'd fit.
I can tell you no one wants an a Californian Transplant moving in though. Seen as a cockaroach nationwide.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-13 00:05 [#02635406]
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I'm basically a conservative that's trying to conserve my 20s on the early 2000s.
I got very dad the other day when I drove by an old Blockbuster Video location where I'd used to rent a couple of movies and then get a pizza next door. Just a small rush of nostalgia. The blockbuster is now a physical therapy Healthcare scam shop catering to Menlo Atherton millionaires. The bay area is dead to me.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-13 00:06 [#02635407]
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I got very dad and very sad. I shouldn't post on my phone ever. Nothings working out for ol wolfslice!
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-13 02:52 [#02635408]
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Sweetie, no.
Using chains of association that tenuous, Obama is even more connected to LaRouche than Becker because LaRouche ran as a Democrat and LaRouche minions have been elected as Democrats.
From your article: "Not only is this idea that Israel directs US policy rooted in anti-semitism, it also requires ignoring the rather straight-forward fact that the State of Israel is a US client state and serves to advance US interests in the region."
Uh yeah this is the main point of the two part Becker podcast you didn't listen to.
Anyways thanks for linking us to an anonymous Medium account that only published one article, a hatchet job on a socialist.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-13 02:57 [#02635409]
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Samantha Sloyan, the Bev actress, is also in Flanagan's Haunting of Hill House but it's a small role. He tends to reuse actors. I liked Hill House. If Midnight Mass is a 10 maybe Hill House is an 8.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-13 04:15 [#02635410]
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Interesting. I watched Hill House (liked it enough, though didn't love it. Probably gave it like a 7?). I recognized Robert Longstreet (the aforementioned Joe Collie) and Anabeth Gish (Caretaker in Hill House, Doctor in Midnight Mass, Monica Reyes in X files) immediately, they were the caretakers in Hill House and imo the best characters of that series.
But I cannot remember Keane in Hill House, even though she was an absolute *STUD* in Midnight Mass. I mean it; she was terrific. Definitely an oversight on my part.
Well, without question, Flannigan's sophmore work prevails here. Midnight Mass was solid as a rock.
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:35 [#02635412]
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Patriarchy According to The Barbie Movie
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:39 [#02635413]
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he points out the antisemitism of that notion also in the interview i watched/listened
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:41 [#02635414]
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down with zionism, down with israel. free palestine
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from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:47 [#02635416]
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and down with imperialism. living in the West i'm profiting of it and the legacy of colonialism. i'm acknowledging that and try to bring down these systems of oppression
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:55 [#02635417]
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Jewish people have been oppressed and genocided throughout history, but there can't be an excuse for Israel doing these same kind of atrocities to the Palestinian people.
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from lsg on 2024-05-13 16:57 [#02635418]
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easy to say for me, of course. but it needs to be said, nonetheless, especially since the West has been looking away, now and for decades
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-13 19:19 [#02635419]
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we've been over this before but this kind of rhetoric is on the verge of antisemitism, and israel loves it when european jews are made uncomfortable.
not only is there no point to this comparison here, you're making it sound like antisemitic violence is a thing of the past. or worse. because this is the exact sort of rhetoric holocaust deniers use to get their foot in the door.
i understand that the west's weaponisation of accusations of antisemitism against any form of pro-palestinian protest is arbitrary, hypocritical and frustrating. but it's no reason to dismiss these concerns. it's a trap they want you to fall into.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-13 19:36 [#02635420]
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hopefully you'll also be aware that acts of antisemitic violence in the west have quadrupled last year (tenfold increase in october and november over here), as they do every time israel get their war on, and you'll be concerned about that and our rich and ongoing legacy of disfranchisement and pogroms. it's not a rhetorical game.
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mermaidman
on 2024-05-13 19:43 [#02635421]
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yeah just look at what happened to the new york tunnel jews
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mermaidman
on 2024-05-13 19:45 [#02635422]
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the nypd closed their habitat
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-13 19:58 [#02635423]
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i mean yes that is a recent exemple of a completely unhinged antisemitic campaign
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 00:09 [#02635424]
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the furthest extremes of the progressive left (and yes BIG YOU ARE HERE. this is you)
1. so bent on lifting up muslims that they become anti semitic
2. so bent on not being racist that they tell someone they are the wrong color to wear dreadlocks (fucking racist, bro.)
3. so bent on gender equity that they say "men this is not your space" (sexist, bro)
4. so bent on dismantling the fascist police that they patrol their own "free zones" with automatic weapons (authoritarian and militant bro)
5. so bent on TELLING OTHERS WHAT IS RIGHT AND WRONG that you become the very moral arbiters you hate on the far right.
It's so fucking easy to see this. It doesn't take hours of shitty right wing vidoes, it's overt and in your face. You think you're on the right side of history big but it's thankfully turning quickly now and very, very soon everyone is going to laugh in your face if you hold on to this trash.
WOFL OUT
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 00:09 [#02635425]
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*not heresy this time but wolfslice drives off with a more muted Autechre- Sim Gishel*
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 00:11 [#02635426]
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sim gishel sounds vaguely yiddish so probably deserves a "campus walk off" if you hear it
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-14 02:51 [#02635431]
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thank you you're such a free thinker for saying the things every god damn media is saying!
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-14 02:52 [#02635432]
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i'm the leftest person here fight me
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 07:09 [#02635433]
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no one here is gonna confuse you for right wing, dudette.
And yeah what I'm saying is the opposite of original. It is in fact *patently obvious* to most people. You can absolutely arrive at these conclusions without having to resort to some ridiculous right wing blowhard youtuber. The super extreme left has been around all my life, in the US. We just didn't give them the time of day until like 2016. It was an overreaction to Trump that did it, I think. They confused a narcissistic buffoon with adolf hitler, and have been confused and angry ever since.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2024-05-14 07:14 [#02635434]
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tide slowly but surely receding
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mermaidman
on 2024-05-14 09:52 [#02635435]
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white dude with dreadlocks is hilarious though
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-14 12:47 [#02635436]
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You're not wrong but what you're describing is liberalism. Like Biden, dariusgriffin is a neoconservative about anything that doesn't involve identity politics.
Woke liberalism and neoconservatism are compatible.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-14 13:16 [#02635437]
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yes, it's the nature of a dominant ideology to make itself look like the most obvious good sense. it transfigures complex and nuanced issues into readymade us versus them narratives. any alternative is only ever deserving of a sneer.
so forget your grievances for a minute and ask yourself: is this the world you want?
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-14 13:25 [#02635438]
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Your post could be plausibly read in a Jordan Peterson voice. It has the same vehement but content free quality as his tweets. I wouldn't blink if he posted it. Bonus points for "transfigures", very Petersonian diction.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2024-05-14 13:37 [#02635439]
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Also please don't listen to anything Tony says he's an actually insane person who cheers for capital punishment and the oct 7 attack. It's like he's been taken over by a bot.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2024-05-14 13:49 [#02635440]
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looooooool
You desperate ass motherfucker. You'll project any old insanity on me.
Hey, you know who really supported Hamas?
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-15 06:17 [#02635441]
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i don't think antisemitism is a thing of the past. i don't believe these numbers, though, institutions count too much anti israel sentiment as antisemitism. it happens here in the netherlands, where there's an state antisemitism watchdog that i've at least seen equate the two in its communications (i can't exactly know how they count stuff).
i'm not sure actions of israel increase antisemitism.
i guess this is where i want to point out how much the West contributed to antisemitism (afaik even invented it)
i don't really know how i could communicate better. i do want to use radical slogans. i try to be sensitive to history and current things, but i can't reframe everything, till the point where i can't say anything, just because there's anti-semitic neonazi's or conspiracy believers
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big
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-15 06:20 [#02635443]
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antisemitic conspiracy believes, i guess i should say (since the believers are often oblivious to their the antisemitism they're peddling)
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big
from lsg on 2024-05-15 06:23 [#02635444]
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this is straw men
best i can say is focus on actually policies leftists propose, instead of worrying about how things look or sound
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