breadtube thread | xltronic messageboard
 
You are not logged in!

F.A.Q
Log in

Register
  
 
  
 
Now online (2)
Combo
recycle
...and 117 guests

Last 5 registered
Oplandisks
nothingstar
N_loop
yipe
foxtrotromeo

Browse members...
  
 
Members 8025
Messages 2617112
Today 12
Topics 127739
  
 
Messageboard index
breadtube thread
 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-01-18 17:02 [#02640337]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker



is there anything gayer than heterosexual marriage

men swearing a lifelong commitment to polluting their
precious bodily fluids at the very fountainhead of estrogen

incredible faggotry


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2025-01-18 17:52 [#02640339]
Points: 2208 Status: Regular



Imagine being stuck in one of the gayest threads on the
whole Internet.

With Big.


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-01-19 16:12 [#02640365]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



sorry about jim
rip in power


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-01-19 16:15 [#02640366]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to Roger Wilco: #02640339 | Show recordbag



🤗


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-02-10 20:39 [#02640965]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



kanye west and the predictable meltdown nobody has time f...


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-02-18 04:38 [#02641152]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker



ASMR Everything you need to know about Marxism


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-02-23 17:48 [#02641279]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



London Guinness w*nkers



 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-02 13:34 [#02641575]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



open mike eagle's reading on the trump/vance and zelensky
stuff


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-10 09:45 [#02641958]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



20 Trump Supporters Take on 1 Progressive (feat. Sam Sede...

not true breadtube, more like ragebait, but i thought it was
fun for what it was. i kind of know how conservatives, or
rather maga's, think, so i'm not too surprised or anything.
Sam is being pretty educational, also to me. like, i didn't
really know what DEI *really* is. i also watched a bit of
this one with Destiny (a.k.a. Sex Pestiny), it was
more entertaining because it has more horrible people
(including destiny)


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-10 09:46 [#02641959]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



(Sam Seder i suspect is a somewhat of a social democrat: not
full socialist)


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-10 11:45 [#02641967]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



Hasan on the advert for this

which is a reaction to this, by Sam Ceder/Majority
Report. i'm waiting for the reaction by Sam to the whole
thing


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-10 13:33 [#02641969]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



You Are Witnessing the Death of American Capitalism
pretty well informed and in depth video by
Benn Jordan


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-03-10 15:39 [#02641973]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02641969



did you watch it? is it one of those "we used to have good
capitalism but now it is bad" dealies?

Regardless, epic should watch it immediately, as he loves
benn jordan


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-10 16:54 [#02641975]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02641973 | Show recordbag



he says the 40s 50s and 60s in the US were actually like
communism, because of the high tax rates. that's not
technically true, but in the context of where we're now it
makes some sense. he really did study this stuff deeply,
like, not just for a video. of course it's influenced in
parts by someone's ideological background. a lot of stuff is
touched on, because it goes over 100 years of US economic
history, he gives an interesting look at the current gig
economy as well.

(i can't with the dumb xlt takes, though epic is kind of
entertaining in general)


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-10 17:18 [#02641979]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02641975 | Show recordbag



the xlt dumb takes in the case of benn jordan just people
being pretty clearly jealous


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2025-03-10 17:22 [#02641981]
Points: 31480 Status: Addict



Has anyone got a video of Bono explaining the Quantum
Mechanics?


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-10 17:29 [#02641982]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02641975 | Show recordbag



the communism part is stuff like food rations: stuff being
centralized. which is centralization, more than
communism/socialism. the point being made is that GDP went
through the roof with the high taxes


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-10 18:52 [#02641983]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



he made shorts against Tesla and some other companies


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-03-11 15:08 [#02642013]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02641975



people just be calling anything communism now, the new
liberal leader in Canada is a banker and they're calling him
a communist. Marx Carney

Haz and the ACP saying the US is already communist.

I'm sure Benn has some decent information on why grudging
social democracy was better for American workers and even
the economy in general than neoliberal market fundamentalism
but calling it communism seems… misguided.

I'm reading about late 19th century German social democracy
and reformism and it's the same thing, oh let's just leave
the bourgeois in power and they'll give us treats. And it
was explicitly in favour of colonialism and imperialism
because if it wasn't the German workers being
super-exploited it had to be someone.

I know you hate it when I fisk your youtubes. Sorry it will happen again



 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-12 19:44 [#02642052]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02642013 | Show recordbag



i just know these considerations.
it's interesting to see what others are saying and think
about how you can relate more classical leftist ideas to it.



 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-03-14 13:29 [#02642109]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02642052



oh for sure, fascinating how variously people interpret
things.

incidentally here (free pdf) is where I'm reading
about the German social democrats. It's a history of
revolutionary movements from the 19th century onwards. I'm
finding it provides a good scaffolding for random details
and names I've picked up over the years.


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-03-14 13:30 [#02642110]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker



(maybe you already know this stuff, I've been a little shaky
at piecing it all together)


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-14 13:32 [#02642111]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02642109 | Show recordbag



i'm still reading Mandel, as we speak, with the socialist
book club LAZY_TITLE


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-18 19:24 [#02642172]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



WHOOPSIE! Tim Pool Fails To Do His Research
. he's a very incurious person, says Sam
Seder. i also tried watching the tim pool culture war
episode (at double speed), but it didn't amount to much


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-18 19:27 [#02642173]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



broke the page

The YouTubers Who Backed a Genocide
, by Noah Samsen. most of this is summing up
what said genocide looks like, which is pretty harrowing

new one:
Manufacturing Consent for Genocide
, about regular new outlets. haven't watched
this one yet


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-03-26 14:08 [#02642460]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02642172



Tim Pool is like Vaush and Destiny, people I feel actual
physical pain trying to watch. I can't be the only one.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-26 20:59 [#02642470]
Points: 5083 Status: Lurker



bro what is with you guys

who would waste their time listening to tim pool, vash,
destiny, hassan, ben shaprio, peterson etc. Just adjust your
wide rim black glasses for a second and take a step back
from all this. Can't you play some fuckin' video games
instead?

Kingdom Come Deliverance is really good, just finished my
first play through in 121.7 hours, 70% of achievements
clear. I couldn't bring myself to do the bad stuff
(thieving, betrayal etc). My Henry was a proper fucking
Christian in the Middle Ages.


 

offline Wolfslice from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2025-03-26 21:03 [#02642472]
Points: 5083 Status: Lurker



my impression of tony and big in 2025.


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-03-28 21:14 [#02642544]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



"there is no such thing as society"


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-07 12:59 [#02642767]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



BadEmpanada speaks on the Jobst v. Mitchell case. pretty much siding with Jobst, which
surprised me

i don't think it's really breadtube. but here's
the judge's ruling. and here's an article


 

offline earthleakage from tell the world you're winning on 2025-04-09 04:06 [#02642785]
Points: 27838 Status: Regular | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02637528



you are lovely and everyone else is scum.and i hope to god
this is the last time i every say anything ever to anyone.


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-09 09:28 [#02642805]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



i hope darius will be back. can understand why someone
wouldn't though (i'm saying it general terms, because i'm
not sure she really left or anything, or just has better
things to do). (i like how earthleakage seeks out pretty
contested posts to say something like this.)


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-04-20 14:57 [#02642964]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker



Tariq Khan on his book The Republic Shall Be Kept Clean: How
Settler Colonial Violence Shaped Antileft Repression.

We’ll be releasing this conversation as a two part episode
on this excellent book which studies how anticommunism
within the US is deeply intertwined with settler
colonialism, anti-indigenous thought, and genocidal
violence. This helps us to reframe our often twentieth
century centric view of anti-left repression in the US.
Khan’s work on the 19th century in particular also helps
us to see the ways things like race science, eugenics, and
phrenology were formed a backbone of the original
assumptions of US policing, anti-anarchist repression,
lynching, and regimes of deportation. Alongside and related
to settler colonial violence against indigenous people, and
anti-Black violence, we also through this conversation
really get into how central the repression of anarchists in
the 19th century was to the development of logics and
technologies of anti-left repression in the so-called United
States.

It is also important to see the resonance between US
genocidal violence and state repression and that of the
so-called State of Israel on Palestinians, something we
explore a little bit more in part two of this discussion
along with delving into William McKinley, Teddy Roosevelt
and more.

LAZY_COLONIALISM


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-20 16:44 [#02642965]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02642964 | Show recordbag



i finished reading Naomi Klein's Doppelganger! also touches
on these subjects; feel akin


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-04-20 22:00 [#02642968]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02642965



Does it really? I thought it was mostly about her being
butthurt over people confusing her with Naomi Wolf.


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-21 09:11 [#02642969]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02642968 | Show recordbag



anything that doesn't align with your world view, will get a
bad faith reading. an extreme bad faith reading, in fact.
it's cool anti-colonialism apparently has a place in your
world view now, but i wish you'd give ideas in general the
benefit of the doubt: they're not the enemy


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-21 09:38 [#02642970]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Show recordbag



review
The Doppelganger concept was interesting but maybe wears
thin after a while. I didn't fully get what the shadow lands
are, as opposed to the mirror world: two big parts of the
book. Or the shadow lands are things like sweat shops in
China, making our smart phones: things we don't want to see.
While the mirror world is the fun house mirror version of
our world. The obvious example being conspiracy theories
(obvious because it's what the book is about). Like covid
being designed, instead of a result of unfettered
capitalism. But what is the connection between the shadow
lands and the mirror world? There's too little of one. I do
like the separate parts, though. I like Klein's research
into the mirror world, talking about literature and Freud
(who, I guess, now holds a place between fiction and
non-fiction). And I like the chapters in the shadow lands
part of the book dealing with autism treatment in 'Red
Vienna' in the 1930's and Jewish thought in that same
period, of which only Zionism survived. And also I like the
very beginning of the book, where Klein lets herself go down
the rabbit hole of conspiracies, following her doppelganger
whom people confuse her with: Naomi Wolf (my favorite moment
being her getting caught by her husband Avi, listening to
Steve Bannon's War Room podcast, while doing yoga). That
it's not made into a convincing whole, is maybe fitting for
this book being also a diary of the years of covid lockdown
and isolation.


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-21 12:39 [#02642973]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02642969 | Show recordbag



probably i'm taking a joke too serious again. but also i do
have this feeling


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-04-21 14:13 [#02642975]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02642969



Sorry if I came across as flip. I was responding based on
what I had read in a number of reviews of her book and
honestly didn't understand how it connected to the subject
of my post.

If you think anti colonialism is something brand new for me
then you haven't been understanding what I've been saying
for some time now or I haven't been expressing it well. Once
again I urge you to read this.

Lol at doing yoga while listening to a Steve Bannon podcast,
that's so Covid. I like Naomi Klein. I saw her speak in
Montreal in the 2010s. I get the impression she's too
focused on the power of ideas in doppelganger.

Also, it's OK for us to disagree, don't turn it into a feud!



 

offline mermaidman on 2025-04-21 18:53 [#02642977]
Points: 8430 Status: Regular



covid was capitalism??


 

offline Tony Danza from Fabulous Hollywood on 2025-04-21 20:01 [#02642978]
Points: 3763 Status: Lurker



Having a look now and it's better than I thought. I
apologize for being dismissive, big.

When radical and anti-establishment writers and scholars
attempt to analyze the underlying systems that built and
uphold power in our world, including the proven existence of
covert operations to eliminate threats to those systems, it
is common for them to be dismissed as conspiracy theorists.
In truth, it is one of the most battle-worn tactics used to
bury and marginalize ideas that are inconvenient to those
who wield economic and political power, or who feel
personally attacked by anti-corporate, anti-capitalist, or
anti-racist analyses because the critiques implicate them.
Every serious left-wing analyst of power has faced this
smear, from Marx onward.


So there's, like, systemic analysis of oppression and the
material interests and mechanisms the analysis uncovers, and
then there's the doppelganger mirror image of that, the
right wing covid conspiracies from Naomi Wolf? Am I getting
this right? Anyways I'll read it now that I've got it
downloaded, seems like a quick read.


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-22 12:22 [#02642980]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to Tony Danza: #02642978 | Show recordbag



yes, correct

the general theses might not be new for you. the cultural
history stuff i mentioned might be though (btw: that's
actually what i have a degree in). that's the appeal, as
well as the the personal approach. i really think you could
broaden your horizon with that sort of stuff. there's of
course other writers to do that with as well, whom you'd
possibly like more

you weren't *that* dismissive, but it was a gripe that had
been building. i could communicate better about that as
well.


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-22 12:24 [#02642981]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02642980 | Show recordbag



+thanks for listening



 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-22 12:29 [#02642982]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to mermaidman: #02642977 | Show recordbag



yes, but there's so much to say about that. so many
approaches to explaining it.

mass production of meat and monoculture of crops made it
possible but you can argue those could have happened under
socialism as well. but then you also come to the reaction:
short term profits needed to go on. and you come to close
allies of capitalism, so to say, like eugenics: the system
being fine with non-profitable people dying off


 

offline hevquip from megagram dusk sect (United States) on 2025-04-24 22:43 [#02643006]
Points: 3399 Status: Regular



your problems are not political. they can not be solved by
protesting, voting, or watching youtube for 4 hours. they
are biological & mental and will most likely persist until
you die. there are no homosexuals or communists in the
afterlife, so i doubt you will be preoccupied with the
thoughts of such things either at that point.


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-25 15:45 [#02643012]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to hevquip: #02643006 | Show recordbag



as the monks saying goes: "in heaven there's no beer, that's
why we drink it here"


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2025-04-25 15:52 [#02643013]
Points: 40643 Status: Regular



gawd I miss a good alcoholic drink…
A simple jack and coke….15/11/2025


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-25 16:23 [#02643014]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to recycle: #02643013 | Show recordbag



i don't doubt there will be alcoholic beverages for you in
heaven


 

offline big from lsg on 2025-04-25 16:24 [#02643015]
Points: 23978 Status: Lurker | Followup to big: #02643014 | Show recordbag



and on 15/11/2025. stay strong ✊


 

online recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2025-04-25 16:46 [#02643016]
Points: 40643 Status: Regular



lol 😂 it ain’t no thang, just on this dumb probation
until mid November. Then have a drink or two, no big deal.
The water flows freely and soda and tea are always there lol


 


Messageboard index