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offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-02-22 13:47 [#02616668]
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_van_Creveld


 

offline RussellDust on 2022-02-22 14:18 [#02616669]
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Ukraine on the brink probably
You still can’t share a link properly

:P


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-02-22 14:24 [#02616670]
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The Transformation of War Edit
Of particular significance is his 1991 book The
Transformation of War (UK: On Future War), which was
translated into French, German (New German edition in 2004),
Russian, and Spanish. In this treatise of military theory,
van Creveld develops what he calls the non-trinitarian
theory of warfare, which he juxtaposes to the famous work by
Clausewitz, On War.[4]

Clausewitz's trinitarian model of war (a term of van
Creveld's) distinguishes between the affairs of the
population, the army, and the government.[5] Van Creveld
criticizes this philosophy as too narrow and state-focused,
thus inapplicable to the study of those conflicts involving
one or more non-state actors. Instead, he proposes five key
issues of war:

By whom war is fought – whether by states or by non-state
actors
What is war all about – the relationships between the
actors, and between them and the non-combatants
How war is fought – issues of strategy and tactics
What war is fought for – whether to enhance national power
or as an end to itself
Why war is fought – the motivations of the individual
soldier
Van Creveld notes that many of the wars fought after 1945
were low-intensity conflicts (LICs) which powerful states
ended up losing. The book argues that we are seeing a
decline of the nation-state, without a comparable decline in
organized violence. Moreover, in his view, armies
consistently train and equip to fight a conventional war,
rather than the LICs they are likely to face. Consequently,
it is imperative that nation-states change the training of
their armed forces and rethink their weapon procurement
programs.

The book's significance is attested to by the fact that
until the middle of 2008, it was included on the list of
required reading for United States Army officers, and (with
Sun Tzu and Clausewitz) the third non-American entry on the
list.[6] Van Creveld's Supplying War: Logistics from
Wallenstein to Patton is now included on the list as well.


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-22 15:26 [#02616671]
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even my aphex site is getting politically hot this
afternoon


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-23 03:09 [#02616678]
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LAZY_TITLE looooooool


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-02-23 11:14 [#02616680]
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LAZY_TITLE

i was right essentially from start to finish here but no one
really seemed to care so i haven't kept returning with
updated predictions.


 

online EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2022-02-23 11:16 [#02616681]
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LAZY_TITLE ~ it is not trivial to link specific points
in specific threds on xlt.


 

offline Tony Danza from Hollywood on 2022-02-23 14:46 [#02616685]
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What Is the Difference Between Kosovo & Donbass?


 

offline DADONCK from here on 2022-02-23 20:19 [#02616686]
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im trolling this YouTuber kid who is whoring out his Russian
identity for years to get clicks and subs and now is too
afraid to give a real statement about the situation. he just
deleted my comment calling him out on it, calling him a 90s
homeshopping channel. ah, my mere existence…


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-02-24 07:32 [#02616687]
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putin couldnt sell a switch on tv


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-02-24 07:56 [#02616688]
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seriously?
looked up the pro russian referendum of 2014 in east
ukraine.
wikipedia tells a different story. guess there is always two
sides to it, but im not buying it.

look at the numbers:
2014 75%pro russia in donbass

1991 75% pro independence in all regions including the ea...

i find it hard to believe that the same families that voted
for independence in the east changed their mind and rather
be part of a oppressive system. on the other hand if putin
found a way to get the votes without breaking peoples legs,
he might have an argument.

is it an option to let donbass be russian?
and what is to gain from that?
im really just starting to get into the matter.
the news havent sufficiently concluded this matter to me.



 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2022-02-24 08:40 [#02616689]
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sooo it looks like this is going to be a full on invasion
then. "denazification" is the russian line; 5 ukrainian
planes and a helicopter downed already. fuck


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-24 09:42 [#02616690]
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I think this is going to be harder than the Russians
realise, they will get a bloody nose from this economically
and otherwise, going to be a very costly war from them


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-24 10:12 [#02616691]
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Ive seen people on facebook parroting Kremlin propaganda
that Ukraine government are nazi enablers. Sure there are
groups of Nazis in Ukraine but seems like its vastly
overstated as a pretext for war


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-02-24 12:40 [#02616692]
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30 years of progress down the drain.
and for what exactly?
im quite shocked about the planes. not a good sign at all.


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-24 12:58 [#02616693]
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If he attacks a NATO country it will be WW3, this is brown
trouser time, I hope its the end of Putin, this will trash
Russia in several ways. e


 

offline Tony Danza from Hollywood on 2022-02-24 15:54 [#02616694]
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brutal timing


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-24 16:00 [#02616695]
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fucking hell lol


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-24 16:01 [#02616696]
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LAZY_TITLE

The fear they have put into children, evil isn't the word


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-24 16:01 [#02616697]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-24 16:15 [#02616698]
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hopefully that isn't a propaganda vid by the way


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-02-24 17:03 [#02616702]
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10545641/Putins-gi
ves-chilling-warning-West-early-morning-TV-broadcast.html

Putin's speech in fullhttps://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10545641/Putins-...

the america and its satellites bit scared me the most
and the bit about what happened in libya, syria, iraq etc.im
sure putin could take out the western governments quite
quickly. what will happen then is chaos everywhere as people
fight for power. everyone against everyone.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-02-24 17:05 [#02616703]
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fourth-generation_warfare


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-02-24 17:51 [#02616704]
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what scared me most was his face uttering the threats
psycho


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-02-24 17:54 [#02616705]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W57I2mzAr9c

Putin's speech in full

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W57I2mzAr9c


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-02-24 17:55 [#02616706]
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ah wait the audio on that is shitty


 

offline Tony Danza from Hollywood on 2022-02-24 18:22 [#02616707]
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what u are experiencing is feelings related to the end of
the unipolar world order

it's fine

it's not a problem

also, justin trudeau owes putin a thank u note


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-02-24 18:54 [#02616708]
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i thought it was multimegapolar until now


 

offline Tony Danza from Hollywood on 2022-02-24 19:01 [#02616709]
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my brain is melting


 

offline Advocate on 2022-02-24 19:33 [#02616710]
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right in ur cranium


 

offline Cliff Glitchard from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2022-02-25 00:30 [#02616712]
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It's ok, Biden has got this.


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-25 00:56 [#02616713]
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the controls to his stairmaster?


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-25 03:01 [#02616714]
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saw a funny comment on youtube live cam amongst the racial
slurs and stuff

"Biden is Mason Verger"


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-25 03:30 [#02616715]
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Peter Hitchens has a turnip for a brain


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-25 03:33 [#02616716]
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He's right about the bbc though


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-25 03:35 [#02616717]
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Weird how he totally avoids the question about Prince Andrew


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2022-02-25 07:32 [#02616720]
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We invade Putin…the end.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-02-25 07:34 [#02616721]
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There's no way anyone can defend Putin now

It's like Biden kept punching a bear in the face then
wondered why the bear scrammed him with his claws. Biden is
a fucking mong. I even said this would happen if Biden got
in.

But Putin has crossed the line now. It's too late to stop
the war. tens of millions will die.

the survivors will have to pick up the pieces.

uk is so divided
brexit vs pro brexit,
trump vs biden
etc

there will be civil wars all over the place

look at iraq, libya, afghanistan and what happened there.
private military companies, people fighting for their
families, for their rights, for resources, for food, to
impress women, fighting for whatever

i can see boris and biden and their crews being first to be
killed, putin will aim the nukes at the leadership.

there's no way this war will end soon. it's going to spread
like wildfire


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-02-25 07:39 [#02616722]
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he´s yet to attack a nato country.
just pray that wont happen.
until then its sanctions all the way.



 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2022-02-25 07:41 [#02616723]
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Third World War
We
All
Die


 

offline recycle from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2022-02-25 07:42 [#02616724]
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I’m glad our country is just at war will poor Mexicans
trying to get in and escape their lives
And
Country Canada who….
Yeah America’s Hat is coo


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-02-25 07:43 [#02616725]
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im afraid poland could be drawn into this and then we can
kiss our asses goodbye


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-02-25 07:49 [#02616726]
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during the cold war the ussr had a plan to use nukes under
the ocean on the west and east coast of the usa to cause
radioactive tidal waves and tsunamis. this tactic would work
even better on an island... the uk.

my friend in kiev had no plan... she's still there now

this war aint going away, time to make a plan now, wherever
you live


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-02-25 07:59 [#02616727]
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just seeing the ukrainians made me think, what i would grab
and where i would go. its not working out though. and
millions of cars going the same way in my area.

hope your friend is alright.


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2022-02-25 09:47 [#02616729]
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I like Peter Hitchens, I don't agree with everything he
says, and he is a pompous, seemingly non-self aware,
humourless, oversensitive windbag... but I don't hate him.

ANYWAY. My take on Ukraine situation? Get ISIS in there.


 

offline big from lsg on 2022-02-25 11:30 [#02616733]
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That's pretty good. Western imperialism on display.


 

offline big from lsg on 2022-02-25 11:33 [#02616734]
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The West is the worst. I'm not gonna support another
imperial power, but am happy to help bringing down the one I
live in. 'Reform' it though socialist revolution (of the
more anarchic kind).


 

offline Tony Danza from Hollywood on 2022-02-25 13:23 [#02616736]
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"My take on Ukraine situation? Get ISIS in there. "

Ah well now, that only works where the terrorists are
indigenous.

"The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of
helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well
in Afghanistan against the Red Army," explains a former CIA
analyst. "The same doctrines can still be used to
destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to
counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia." In a certain
sense, the Cold War is still going on. For years Graham
Fuller, former Deputy Director of the National Council on
Intelligence at the CIA, has been talking up the
"modernizing virtues" of the Islamists, insisting on their
anti-Statist concept of the economy. Listening to him, you
would almost take the Taleban and their Wahhabi allies for
liberals. "Islam, in theory at least, is firmly anchored in
the traditions of free trade and private enterprise," wrote
Fuller. "The prophet was a trader, as was his first wife.
Islam does not glorify the State’s role in the
economy."


- Richard Labévière, Dollars for Terror, 2000


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-25 14:02 [#02616737]
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Oh yeah I don't hate him, i find him quite amusing, he is
right on some stuff and terribly wrong on others!


 

online Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-02-25 14:02 [#02616738]
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But aren't we all


 


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