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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-01 17:02 [#02616902]
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could almost make me a believer
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:04 [#02616903]
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apart from me, is there anyone here who has read the old testament, and is familiar with its laws, prophecies, and kings? ive read most of it and am familiar with it but im 'crazy'. so...
there is a major religious war going on right now...
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 17:04 [#02616904]
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feels unreal, like its not real
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:04 [#02616905]
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find it :-)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 17:04 [#02616906]
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wasn't far off was he!
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:10 [#02616907]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI4bq-kZ7nA
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:26 [#02616908]
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60506682
more maps
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 17:36 [#02616909]
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unfortunately looks like the Russians have made headway over the past 24 hours
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:39 [#02616910]
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russians are doing this:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuver_warfare
ukrainians are winning the media and propaganda battle in the west at least, which makes them morally superior
the moral element in war is important
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 18:02 [#02616916]
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Yeah moral is still with Ukraine at the moment, have you seen some of the soldiers/raw recruits the Russians have sent, they are like 17 they still have bum fluff, they are rightly terrified and don't even know why they are there
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:05 [#02616917]
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it's easy to be brave until youre captured/tortured/about to be killed
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:11 [#02616918]
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anyone had a look at martin van creveld's books yet?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 18:16 [#02616919]
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not yet, got any insight from em?
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-01 18:19 [#02616920]
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its one of those cases where its hard to watch that other people are fucked because their country is located between two super powers.
saying "one of those cases" means it even happens far too often.
i wonder how far, putin has stated, he is going with this with his opponents. as in how detailed have they been during their meetings. i sincerely hope they still talk about stuff and dont just poker blindly.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:21 [#02616921]
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ive posted a link to rise and decline of the state already in this thread
the question is, what happens if the european governments collapse? everyone will be fighting for different reasons. there will be gangs, mafia, men trying to impress women, religions, racial strife, families all competing for power over different regional areas.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:23 [#02616922]
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gangs, mafia, men trying to impress women, religions, racial strife, families, racists, anti-racists, communists, socialists, conservatives, trump supporters, democracy advocates, fascists, etc all fighting for their own reasons
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:28 [#02616923]
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https://b-ok.cc/book/465996/f0ac22 here's the link again the book is from 1999, amazingly prescient though!!! martin van creveld understands war like you wouldnt believe
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2022-03-01 18:31 [#02616924]
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It's not far off from the war in Bosnia years ago. Albeit I was just a primary school fella back then and don't remember much, but this is awful to be seeing. Really worried on it becoming an all or nothing situation cause this is an embarrassment and a tragedy that an invasion had to happen at such a bad time in history already. Numbing.
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AphexTwin11
from OOOOOO (United States) on 2022-03-01 18:32 [#02616925]
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Nah, don't want to see it happen anymore D: !!! Amping
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 18:56 [#02616926]
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Facebook seems to be the government at the moment
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2022-03-01 19:13 [#02616927]
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plague, war, famine (yemen is being starved to death by the saudis), death, end times, repent mothherfuckers
nah not really
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 19:59 [#02616928]
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My mum was saying that today cos shes a Christian, Normally I say don't be silly but they might have a point this time round
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 21:19 [#02616930]
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LAZY_TITLE really great documentary
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-03-02 01:50 [#02616932]
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that does it, I'm going to bum Putin
[clips lubricant and bear spray to utility belt]
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2022-03-02 10:18 [#02616933]
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I say to Mr Putin; Enough's enough!
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-02 17:42 [#02616934]
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Who remembers when we were chatting about covid in china? Then it hit us in the balls
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2022-03-02 18:28 [#02616938]
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Ahhh Covid... Days of Innocence.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-03-02 19:55 [#02616940]
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After they get rid of these pesky Russians... I'm thinking... Kiev sex tour!!
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2022-03-02 21:35 [#02616941]
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so glad you're still alive! anybody from the Ukraine here?
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2022-03-02 23:40 [#02616947]
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This is the funniest thing I ever read on the internet and I apologise if this sounds like a reach around.
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Roger Wilco
from Mo's Beans on 2022-03-02 23:43 [#02616948]
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I've set fire 🔥 to my Dostoevsky collection
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-03 01:39 [#02616949]
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neck time i see my mums matryoshka dolls Im going to smash them with a lump hammer, and her bloody tambourine while im at it
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Advocate
on 2022-03-03 21:43 [#02616961]
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A world war was announced days ago But they didn't know ...
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-04 07:19 [#02616966]
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LAZY_TITLE
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-03-04 15:57 [#02616971]
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I accept that in the spirit it's given.
Before I post something like that, I always pause and wonder, what if he's just nuked someone? Nah, probably not, [post]
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-03-04 16:05 [#02616972]
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Citizen! How will YOU stop WWIII??
I'm doing my part! (posting)
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-04 17:41 [#02616978]
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pouring oil into the flames
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-04 17:46 [#02616980]
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just when i got less afraid of the world going up in flames they find a new way to destroy it. its like always being one step late. clearly you could expect people to be clever enough to not set a nuclear power plant on fire. or use it as a warzone. or invade a country that clearly rather dies defending their homes.
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-05 22:09 [#02616994]
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Another thing that puzzles me is how russian oligarch property outside of russia is seized now. I dont know anything about the russian elite, but isnt seizing private property just theft in the name of? For all i know they may have deserved it, but am i the only one who feels a bit weird about this?
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-06 03:16 [#02616997]
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Its amazing how many people on social media are clambering for WW3 and nuclear annihilation.
was checking this out, isn't this totally irresponsible to publish something like this? This seems like Chile and Salvador Allende ect.. ect.. all over again on a bigger scale.
Perhaps Tony has a point that the west has a part burden of responsibility for provoking someone as obviously paranoid as Putin
Obviously I'm not absolving him of war crimes, the invasion is solely down to him. But lets face it, seems like he took the bait, its fulfilling all the Americans foreign policy goals in the region. Every Tom Dick and Harry want to join NATO now
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ijonspeches
from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-06 10:28 [#02617014]
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i find the constant development towards shite overencumbering. its when fear turns to depression, acknowledging there is hardly any impact in what we are able to do as individuals while the herd tramples down oasis after oasis.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-06 16:24 [#02617022]
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Yeah fear has definitely gone into depression, I saw those civilians killed by mortar fire just now, a true evil. People running to escape and the Russians opened fire on them.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-06 16:27 [#02617024]
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"As the mortars got closer to the stream of civilians, people ran, pulling children, trying to find a safe spot. But there was nothing to hide behind. A shell landed in the street, sending up a cloud of concrete dust and leaving one family — a mother, a father, a teenage son and a daughter who appeared about 8 years old — sprawled on the ground.
Soldiers rushed to help, but the woman and children were dead. The father still had a pulse but was unconscious and severely wounded"
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-06 16:38 [#02617026]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEEMi2j6lYEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEEMi2j6lYE
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-06 17:36 [#02617030]
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haha
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-07 10:42 [#02617047]
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Anyone else been waking up in a cold sweat? my advise is don't look at twitter photos of the war for hours on end before you go to bed
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-07 15:24 [#02617062]
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nazis took france in 6 weeks wonder if russia can take ukraine in 6 weeks too question then is what does putin do next? moldova and georgia must be scared to death
plus it's really hard for western countries to send any weapons or troops to georgia, wonder what turkey will do.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-07 15:34 [#02617063]
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suppose its possibly yeah, Russia seem to be facing alot more attrition than the nazis did. Got to be honest just don't know, I hope the Ukrainians keep wrecking the Russia airforce/army so it becomes too costly for Russia to continue but I Putin will just go on regardless
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2022-03-07 15:59 [#02617066]
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i saw an article that said most of putin's airforce is not being used. he's trying to take ukraine not destroy it. i wonder how many ukrainians will accept putin's rule? we'll see in 5 weeks :-(
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-07 19:55 [#02617069]
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Yeah i don't think they wanted to absolutely flatten it to begin with but cos of the resistance they are just bombing the shit out of it now which is obviously horrific.
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