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offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-01 17:02 [#02616902]
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could almost make me a believer


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:04 [#02616903]
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apart from me, is there anyone here who has read the old
testament, and is familiar with its laws, prophecies, and
kings? ive read most of it and am familiar with it but im
'crazy'. so...

there is a major religious war going on right now...


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 17:04 [#02616904]
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feels unreal, like its not real


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:04 [#02616905]
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find it :-)


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 17:04 [#02616906]
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wasn't far off was he!


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:10 [#02616907]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI4bq-kZ7nA


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:26 [#02616908]
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-60506682

more maps


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 17:36 [#02616909]
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unfortunately looks like the Russians have made headway over
the past 24 hours


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 17:39 [#02616910]
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russians are doing this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maneuver_warfare

ukrainians are winning the media and propaganda battle in
the west at least, which makes them morally superior

the moral element in war is important



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 18:02 [#02616916]
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Yeah moral is still with Ukraine at the moment, have you
seen some of the soldiers/raw recruits the Russians have
sent, they are like 17 they still have bum fluff, they are
rightly terrified and don't even know why they are there


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:05 [#02616917]
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it's easy to be brave until youre captured/tortured/about to
be killed


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:11 [#02616918]
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anyone had a look at martin van creveld's books yet?


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 18:16 [#02616919]
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not yet, got any insight from em?


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-01 18:19 [#02616920]
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its one of those cases where its hard to watch that other
people are fucked because their country is located between
two super powers.

saying "one of those cases" means it even happens far too
often.

i wonder how far, putin has stated, he is going with this
with his opponents. as in how detailed have they been during
their meetings. i sincerely hope they still talk about stuff
and dont just poker blindly.



 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:21 [#02616921]
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ive posted a link to rise and decline of the state already
in this thread

the question is, what happens if the european governments
collapse? everyone will be fighting for different reasons.
there will be gangs, mafia, men trying to impress women,
religions, racial strife, families all competing for power
over different regional areas.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:23 [#02616922]
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gangs, mafia, men trying to impress women,
religions, racial strife, families, racists, anti-racists,
communists, socialists, conservatives, trump supporters,
democracy advocates, fascists, etc all fighting for their
own reasons


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-01 18:28 [#02616923]
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https://b-ok.cc/book/465996/f0ac22
here's the link again
the book is from 1999, amazingly prescient though!!!
martin van creveld understands war like you wouldnt believe


 

offline AphexTwin11 from OOOOOO (United States) on 2022-03-01 18:31 [#02616924]
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It's not far off from the war in Bosnia years ago. Albeit I
was just a primary school fella back then and don't remember
much, but this is awful to be seeing. Really worried on it
becoming an all or nothing situation cause this is an
embarrassment and a tragedy that an invasion had to happen
at such a bad time in history already. Numbing.


 

offline AphexTwin11 from OOOOOO (United States) on 2022-03-01 18:32 [#02616925]
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Nah, don't want to see it happen anymore D: !!! Amping


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 18:56 [#02616926]
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Facebook seems to be the government at the moment


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2022-03-01 19:13 [#02616927]
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plague, war, famine (yemen is being starved to death by the
saudis), death, end times, repent mothherfuckers

nah not really


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 19:59 [#02616928]
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My mum was saying that today cos shes a Christian, Normally
I say don't be silly but they might have a point this time
round


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-01 21:19 [#02616930]
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LAZY_TITLE really great documentary


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-03-02 01:50 [#02616932]
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that does it, I'm going to bum Putin

[clips lubricant and bear spray to utility belt]


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2022-03-02 10:18 [#02616933]
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I say to Mr Putin; Enough's enough!


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-02 17:42 [#02616934]
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Who remembers when we were chatting about covid in china?
Then it hit us in the balls


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2022-03-02 18:28 [#02616938]
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Ahhh Covid... Days of Innocence.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-03-02 19:55 [#02616940]
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After they get rid of these pesky Russians... I'm
thinking... Kiev sex tour!!


 

offline -crazone from smashing acid over and over on 2022-03-02 21:35 [#02616941]
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so glad you're still alive! anybody from the Ukraine here?


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2022-03-02 23:40 [#02616947]
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This is the funniest thing I ever read on the internet and I
apologise if this sounds like a reach around.


 

offline Roger Wilco from Mo's Beans on 2022-03-02 23:43 [#02616948]
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I've set fire 🔥 to my Dostoevsky collection


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-03 01:39 [#02616949]
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neck time i see my mums matryoshka dolls Im going to smash
them with a lump hammer, and her bloody tambourine while im
at it


 

offline Advocate on 2022-03-03 21:43 [#02616961]
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A world war was announced days ago
But they didn't know ...



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-04 07:19 [#02616966]
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LAZY_TITLE


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-03-04 15:57 [#02616971]
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I accept that in the spirit it's given.

Before I post something like that, I always pause and
wonder, what if he's just nuked someone? Nah, probably not,
[post]


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2022-03-04 16:05 [#02616972]
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Citizen! How will YOU stop WWIII??

I'm doing my part! (posting)


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-04 17:41 [#02616978]
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pouring oil into the flames


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-04 17:46 [#02616980]
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just when i got less afraid of the world going up in flames
they find a new way to destroy it. its like always being one
step late. clearly you could expect people to be clever
enough to not set a nuclear power plant on fire. or use it
as a warzone. or invade a country that clearly rather dies
defending their homes.


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-05 22:09 [#02616994]
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Another thing that puzzles me is how russian oligarch
property outside of russia is seized now. I dont know
anything about the russian elite, but isnt seizing private
property just theft in the name of? For all i know they may
have deserved it, but am i the only one who feels a bit
weird about this?



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-06 03:16 [#02616997]
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Its amazing how many people on social media are clambering
for WW3 and nuclear annihilation.

was checking this out, isn't this totally
irresponsible to publish something like this? This seems
like Chile and Salvador Allende ect.. ect.. all over again
on a bigger scale.

Perhaps Tony has a point that the west has a part burden of
responsibility for provoking someone as obviously paranoid
as Putin

Obviously I'm not absolving him of war crimes, the invasion
is solely down to him. But lets face it, seems like he took
the bait, its fulfilling all the Americans foreign policy
goals in the region. Every Tom Dick and Harry want to join
NATO now


 

offline ijonspeches from 109P/Swift-Tuttle on 2022-03-06 10:28 [#02617014]
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i find the constant development towards shite
overencumbering. its when fear turns to depression,
acknowledging there is hardly any impact in what we are able
to do as individuals while the herd tramples down oasis
after oasis.



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-06 16:24 [#02617022]
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Yeah fear has definitely gone into depression, I saw those
civilians killed by mortar fire just now, a true evil.
People running to escape and the Russians opened fire on
them.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-06 16:27 [#02617024]
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"As the mortars got closer to the stream of civilians,
people ran, pulling children, trying to find a safe spot.
But there was nothing to hide behind. A shell landed in the
street, sending up a cloud of concrete dust and leaving one
family — a mother, a father, a teenage son and a daughter
who appeared about 8 years old — sprawled on the ground.

Soldiers rushed to help, but the woman and children were
dead. The father still had a pulse but was unconscious and
severely wounded"


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-06 16:38 [#02617026]
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEEMi2j6lYEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pEEMi2j6lYE


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-06 17:36 [#02617030]
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haha


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-07 10:42 [#02617047]
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Anyone else been waking up in a cold sweat? my advise is
don't look at twitter photos of the war for hours on end
before you go to bed


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-07 15:24 [#02617062]
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nazis took france in 6 weeks
wonder if russia can take ukraine in 6 weeks too
question then is what does putin do next? moldova and
georgia must be scared to death

plus it's really hard for western countries to send any
weapons or troops to georgia, wonder what turkey will do.



 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-07 15:34 [#02617063]
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suppose its possibly yeah, Russia seem to be facing alot
more attrition than the nazis did. Got to be honest just
don't know, I hope the Ukrainians keep wrecking the Russia
airforce/army so it becomes too costly for Russia to
continue but I Putin will just go on regardless


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2022-03-07 15:59 [#02617066]
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i saw an article that said most of putin's airforce is not
being used. he's trying to take ukraine not destroy it. i
wonder how many ukrainians will accept putin's rule? we'll
see in 5 weeks :-(


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2022-03-07 19:55 [#02617069]
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Yeah i don't think they wanted to absolutely flatten it to
begin with but cos of the resistance they are just bombing
the shit out of it now which is obviously horrific.


 


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