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Just wanted to say to Advocate I have the humility to say all of my opinions are totally unqualified and full of errors, but I'm willing to learn |
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Thank u hypies, reading that now. I didn't mean to suggest you were in favour of Iraq. For the record! I do not think Putin is a good guy or hero or ideal leader! All I'm saying is the situation is far more complicated than "bad man do bad stuff" and not without historical context and causes. |
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There have been so many Africans/Indians on social media posting Western Imperialist memes. Yes we get it Western Imperialism is bad, id be the first one to say it, but didn't they ever hear about the Tsar's or the Warsaw pact etc..? |
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I just wanted to say I was in Salisbury just after the Novichok nerve agent killings and there was still places you couldn't go cos they were clearing up in hazmat suits. I know the bad man thing is overly simplistic, but Putin is a bad man with alot more clout behind him |
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He has good points about the nazi resolution things, but all that is Moot now cos he is bombing the crap out of people he describes as: "Our kinship has been transmitted from generation to generation. It is in the hearts and the memory of people living in modern Russia and Ukraine, in the blood ties that unite millions of our families. Together we have always been and will be many times stronger and more successful. For we are one people." |
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He has just had his black belt revoked I read |
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Anyway lets not squabble any longer I don't think any of us want to see wars or death for any ideological reason I'm sure. I know as hell I don't want to see any sort of military intervention if It can be avoided at any cost |
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haha wat a dickhead |
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actually seems less of a dickhead here |
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What I think is really worrying about these Azov fascists is a post war Ukraine, they could be the next government in a hyper nationalist era. |
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"during the past week in and around the strategic port city of Mariupol, the Guardian found many of them to have disturbing political views, and almost all to be intent on "bringing the fight to Kiev" when the war in the east is over." |
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Stop trolling, Tony Danza. You’re the worrying one here! |
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Russian people don’t want this war. At least most, and that includes people I know here and in Russia. Putin is worrying and if you here to try and basically give us his rhetoric it doesn’t make you sound like your taking a step back. Stick to you truckers and the weather. |
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Hyperflake, just ignore him! |
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Next invade England because UKIP |
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Call me simplistic but the second you start firing rockets into civilian blocks of flats then you've lost the argument. |
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That was the point I was trying to make to Tony yeah |
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I think he might be a FSB disinformation officer! |
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seen this missile? I must have seen about a dozen war crimes just via twitter yesterday, i need to stop the doomscrolling |
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Who is even ordering this? "Target flat 14B!" "Yes, comrade. Ideally there are some scared kids in there but y'know, historic connection to Russia and .... unwillingness to be led by a mad man who knows he has a terminal illness... it's all good" |
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this. vlad old bean, you have rather shit the bed on legitimacy |
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yeah saw dispensed cluster munitions in kids bedrooms, one of the worst i saw the other day was a grad missile barrage of some housing estate/tower blocks. The absolute worst ones are the family being removed from an SUV and shot dead with their dogs. and people going to fetch water |
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don't think I've seen such a consensus in my lifetime, shame they didn't do the same over Iraq and Afghanistan but its still good |
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paraphrasing someone else "You can believe neo nazis are bad and that a country should maintain its sovereignty. They're not incongruent beliefs." |
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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/2/26/romania-moldova-fe ars-russian-invasion-ukraine Moldova isn't part of Nato but Romania is. Romania and Moldova have close ties. |
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yeah this is what gives me the heebie jeebies, is he mad enough to push on into NATO, the balkans or the baltic states |
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https://www.rferl.org/a/31725278.html |
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I didn't know there were breakaway regions but doesn't surprise me, I wouldn't be surprised if he tries to test NATOS resolve to the limits, and enter the Baltic states, I know NATO are obliged to protect those countries but maybe Dobby is made enough to test their resolve, even a limited invasion, he is clearly off his rocker now |
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there's a map of where the majority of troops are in ukraine on the daily mail website, and most of them are along the sea coast. the russians must have a plan. i've seen the pics of the 40 mile long convoy headed for kyiv too. i think the russians probably had a strategy of not going for civilians at first, but they're going to drop that strategy pretty soon if not already. lukashenko used the phrase "meat grinder", which is a pretty good description of the future 10 years in europe. none of the politicians on our side are preparing for the kind of stateless warfare and civil wars that will follow. |
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there's a map of where the majority of russia's troops are in ukraine on the daily mail website, and most of them are along the sea coast. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFo-5TBIRPI&t=11s f35 'stealth jet' vs bird |
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i didnt know until checking youtube yesterday that around a year and a half ago the usa started buying the f15 ex jet too, much cheaper than an f35, no idea what the quality is like and the a10 has been upgraded as well with a new model called the super a10 |
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The logistics seem to have been a disaster for the Russians at the moment, Tanks running out of fuel before they reach their destination, tankers being targeted and blown up. I think thats the best bet of the Ukrainians target the fuel supply cos all those old Russian tanks have gas turbines for engines and are really fuel intensive |
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They could do with some A10s they would be ideal for taking out the convoys Was saying to my mate last night the strategy so far by the Russians seem like a disaster. probably because the generals that surround Putin are put there cos they are loyalists and sycophants rather than picked for their ability. Its like they are fighting a war from the 1980s |
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rumours saying the Russians are going for Kazakhstan as well |
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syrian army had sycophants and loyalists in charge on the ground at first, but they got killed pretty quickly and the younger generation of battle hardened troops took control on the ground. putin is a pariah on our side of the world, but there are billions of people in the world who see him standing up to america and its allies and like it! countries like Iran and China and all the -stans Iraq and Libya you cant believe the chinese government or anything they say , all warfare is done by deception according to sun tzu. i can see china staying out of it militarily but stoking the flames of civil war in europe. it would be better for china to make the white devils kill each other by pouring oil on the fire, then taiwan will fall into their hands. then they can enter europe as peacekeepers 10 years from now under UN jurisdiction and legally in international law. |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueMbIAGkXYY |
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Yeah I've seen those people from traditionally marginalise countries on the side of Putin. I can understand their mentality, the west has never done anything good for most of them, just raped their countries. However I don't think they understand Putin would do exactly the same given half a chance, he isn't their friend. |
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Hehe yeah time for another round of apocalyptic end time prophesies, wonder what that Jim Bakker is trying to sell now |
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It's complicated and people are waving Ukrainian flags like it's a sport and they're fans. it was a bit complicated until putin stepped over the far too many lines with his recent attack/invasion. I´ve gotten around a lot of info about the history of the conlifct by now. some online, some hours of past and present reports in german tv. im still missing more details on the first days of the seperatist conflict. even under the premise that these sources may be biased or simplyfied i found they didnt try to cover past mistakes by selynski the west or nato, but unsurprisingly they didnt leave much room for me to give putin any right to act as he does. still, the way this escalates is truly frightening and i am afraid all the sanctions to russia and weapon supply to ukraine will misfire in a way the russian public would mistake it. it feels like a situation where either we will totally lose contact to the east or it will be putins regimes downfall. |
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what do you think is going to happen next? i think moldova and georgia are next who knows |
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only tony´s cited first sentence was supposed to be italic btw |
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i dont think hes on a parade right through ukraine. dont think he would be fast enough. or thick enough to go further right now. |
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but who knows whats going on in a megalomanic mind, it may have been his plan all along to draw as many countries into this as possible and just baits for justification. |
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https://inews.co.uk/news/world/russia-invasion-ukraine-maps -war-how-close-putin-troops-kyiv-latest-news-1491878 |
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oh man i had the best book from a street preacher in manc, he was outside maccy d's looking depressed so i bought one to cheer him up. was a speculative fiction about PUTIN BEING THE ANTICHRIST. all backed up by bible verses, wish i knew where that went |
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looking at all this i still cannot believe what is happening these days. |
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