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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-08 03:48 [#01772586]
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i don't find boc to particulay mean it with this new one, that is why..
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-11-08 03:52 [#01772591]
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I think the tunes are beautifully constructed and i know it might be slightly too accessible for some more anally retentive people, but i love it. Never been off my cd player.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-08 03:59 [#01772594]
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they must have released some special edition for their fellow scotsmen i suspect..
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2005-11-08 05:35 [#01772626]
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If it was limited to 500 and you were one of the guys who had it you would be on your knees, trouser round your ankles, spunking all over it. You don't even like music. You just like collecting.
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merg
from The New New York (Berlin) (Germany) on 2005-11-08 05:51 [#01772637]
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It's a grower, so it is...very nice piece of work...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-08 06:30 [#01772650]
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i hate collecting. it has nothing to do with music if you ask me.
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 06:36 [#01772652]
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i think you nailed it bill. :-)
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Archrival
on 2005-11-08 09:51 [#01772821]
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Excellent post!!! and Qrter doesnt deserve to be a moderator, havent seen one good post by him since day one..and no its not because u dont like TCH..u suck.
Its a excellent album.
I dont understand why people spreading hate when u can spread love, I dont even comment on albums that I dont like, its not worth my time do write about bad albums theres tons of them.
I mean TCH is fantastic and I havent heard a better album in that similar vein ever, suits my taste perfect for my type of hobbies.
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Archrival
on 2005-11-08 09:57 [#01772829]
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Nuc and bill hicks are ooooon point!!!!!!
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hobbes
from age on 2005-11-08 10:14 [#01772847]
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The only thing i see nailed is your penis, to this thread.
I love this album. Yes, qrter does go on a bit about it... but i think it's only fair. As for tolstoyed, wtf do you know?
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2005-11-08 11:55 [#01772896]
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since you have about 30 points and talk in terms of 'the same old whiners', maybe you should point out whose dupe account you are exactly,
just to clear things up. next to that, i haven't got the faintest idea what the hell you are on about in your first post in this thread
next to that, what the hell, bill_hicks, you like BOC ?! you 'dig' this album? man, i believed in you but this is a let down really
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 12:09 [#01772914]
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i agree totally with what archrival said, and bill hicks. there's a very small clique of 3 or 4 unpleasant characters on this forum, unfortunately a couple of them have somehow become moderators.
you guys that i'm referring to: this is a community of real people talking about music and other shared interests on here. it's mostly adults, not some highschool class. can you show a bit of respect?
i particularly agree with what archrival said here: "I dont understand why people spreading hate when u can spread love, I dont even comment on albums that I dont like, its not worth my time do write about bad albums theres
tons of them." exactly. who would have the time or patience to repeatedly jump into otherwise constructive threads, and fill them with the same negative comments, over and over and over? why would someone, who is a struggling musician themselves, go to all the bother of targetting those specific threads and doing that? can you think of a reason? i can think of an obvious one.
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 12:12 [#01772918]
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morton, i've been lurking here for months. at first i thought this was quite a good forum but it's become clear it's dogged down to shit by a kind of 'cooler than thou' censorship by these childish idiots.
as for my first comments to qrter, they were meant for him and he knows exactly what i'm talking about.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 12:15 [#01772921]
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some people like it and some people dont. who gives a fuck?
Bill hicks has been spot on in this thread in my personal opinion.
Nuc although your opinion is just that, you need to get over other peoples opinions. If Qrter doesnt like it then fine. He has just the same right to post about it.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 12:16 [#01772923]
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but its been the same place for years really. Old faces, new faces overall the style hasnt changed one bit.
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 12:17 [#01772924]
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on every thread that is started about the album? i disagree. that's just unfair and disrespectful to the users who want to discuss it.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 12:23 [#01772925]
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Alright.
But why do you view it disrespectful? Obviously people arent going to like it. Some people will love it. Some people look at it from a fair point of view others will either love it or hate anything made by a particular artist.
Why cant all views be shared in one thread?
I've noticed that both you and archrival made comments about certain individuals being moderators but in overview archrival (imo) is sore because he was critisized for his over the top BOC fanboyism and you seem to be a strong advocate of BOC as well.
Just because someones opinion or train of thought doesnt line up with your own doesnt give you the right to slag them off. We all talk a bit of shit around here (which keeps it fun) but restricting threads based on certain types of behavior, post content etc etc etc.... isnt really fair.
I see nothing wrong with having contrasting opinions as long as you boys can play nice.
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 12:26 [#01772928]
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"Just because someones opinion or train of thought doesnt line up with your own doesnt give you the right to slag them
off. We all talk a bit of shit around here (which keeps it fun) but restricting threads based on certain types of behavior, post content etc etc etc.... isnt really fair.
I see nothing wrong with having contrasting opinions as long
as you boys can play nice. "
EXACTLY! now if you'll just post the same comments for the attention of qrter and the others..... you see my point? they're moderators, they're expected to know better.
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Archrival
on 2005-11-08 12:30 [#01772932]
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correct :)
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 12:34 [#01772933]
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one more point to think about: looking through various threads for the past few months, it's obvious that there are a few other regulars who are constantly getting abuse from these so-called 'mods', but they're probably too scared to say anything about it in case they get banned.
i'm not the slightest bit worried about getting banned by these people, i'm pretty disillusioned by this forum at the moment anyway. and if this thread and my membership disappear, it'll only serve to prove my point to the other readers that this place has become a bit of a joke, moderated by unbalanced grumpy little playground bullies.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 12:37 [#01772934]
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I took Qrters post as a silly joke at bill. I even rescanned the thread thinking i might have missed something but i dont think there is anything questionable in this thread.
In my opinion he was targeted for having a differing opinion. I read it three times... basically we got some people that hate it or view it as wanky garbage and then we have people that must think very highly of it (i am assuming you are one of them)
But in all fairness this is no different than any thread that contains a more well known and established artist. Search results could pull AFX, AE, Previous BOC etc etc with very similar threads.
In all honesty i like hearing the negitive. I do like the previous BOC and from things that Qrter (and others) have posted it helped me steer clear from it. Well i give it a chance in the future? maybe. I look to them because we have similar taste in music sometimes. I look to the opinions of those that i know like things i like. I have heard bleep's sample of that ocsar red eye song. Didnt hit me well. So therefore these negitive comments in my opinion make sense.
Unfortunately in the music world (no matter the genre) you are going to have unfair critisizm of certain artists. Example... i hate kid606 but i cant exaplin why. (lol) But overall i think we should accept this and move on instead of expecting others to change or the place we inhabit.
I do appreciate you taking the time to express your opinion. I just hold a differing one myself. :)
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 12:42 [#01772937]
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that's all fair enough, but i'm not just referring to this thread. it's a much bigger problem which has been affecting this whole forum for ages. the mods have a responsibilty to discuss things rationally, as you're doing yourself, and to treat all the users equally. that's just not what has been happening. qrter for instance, takes great pleasure in agressively taking the piss out of other users who don't share his taste in music. that's just not mod behaviour, it's childish and disrespectful and it doesn't make this forum an attractive venue for music discussion.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 12:45 [#01772938]
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haha! To be honest its quite the contrary. There are people here who post extreme rubbish and when Mod's do something about it those people complain that its not fair. they demand certain rights but overall favortism goes to those that
1. Have been an established member for more than a year 2. Actually contribute to the community aspect of this community
3. continuous donating members that support the cause.
i am sure you can see where this is going....
Just to be the opposite side of the coin (for shits and giggles) i could ask you "who are you to question anything about this site?"
At this point we could reflect on the fact that overall you do not contribute to this site much. 34 posts since 04.... with a number of them in this thread and yet you feel as though that critisizing the board somehow has weight behind it.
Technically some "new guy" or "lurker" usually "doesnt get it"
I dont mean to slag on you or anything (just to clear that up) but overall this would be like me going to the Mu board where i might have 5-10 posts and saying that i dont like how things are run. It wouldnt make much sense.
The webmaster picked certain Mods. Moreover during the times the Mods were picked they were approved of by most of the members at that time. Thus they spoke for the masses so to speak. So when you mix those things together it is kind of hard to argue against.
If you want serious music discussion i would suggest that you continue to discuss music that you like and i am sure other lurkers that are here for music only will join you. Just dont expect to change how things are run.
XLT is what it is and thats what makes it unique. It stands out as an individual for the freedoms allowed here.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-11-08 12:47 [#01772939]
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Mein Kampfire Kopfphase is GREAT.
Citizins who do not like it WILL BE SHOT.
THIS INCLUDES MODERATORS.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-11-08 12:47 [#01772940]
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"citizins" lol.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 12:49 [#01772941]
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my spelling is taking over your mind!
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2005-11-08 12:50 [#01772942]
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witchcraft~!
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-11-08 12:50 [#01772943]
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Wow you all sound like a bunch of twats
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 12:54 [#01772944]
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so even when the old boy's club start to abuse their position, everyone turns a blind eye?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 13:02 [#01772947]
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I dont think i follow. No one is abusing a position. And a blind eye to what? I think i am being quite fair about all of this. Just expressing my opinion.
I dont see where you are trying to go with all of this.
I cant be here to respond for a while as i have to get back to work but overall i would say following
Hey its Zilty! Dont be so serious! This is a great place to relax and talk shit and yes even eventually discuss music. No need to be bitter or bent out of shape or draw wild conspiracy theories.
This place the way it is is what brings back members. Thats why the same faces come back here everyday. Thats why the same people pay phobia to keep it up and running. They like it the way things are. This is what we refer to as "The New Awesomeness"
I try to reflect the community as a whole with what i say and the actions i preform to maintain this "awesomeness" as long as i am in a position to do so. I represent the majority. Phobia and TuneMX are the bosses and under them the majority and then under them the minority and then last of all you have me. It just so happens i have different privelages but i try my best to do my best for the community that i respect and love to come to for light hearted chat and a little BS.
If you've truly lurked here for as long as you say you have then you will notice that we actually discuss music a bit more. I would be an example of that. But back to work :)
I am sorry we could not see eye to eye but i hold no ill will towards you. :)
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 13:06 [#01772948]
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i appreciate the discussion virginpusher but i stick by what i've said, there's nothing wrong with banter and a bit of BS, but the unpleasant attacks from qrter and others upon some of the users is just not on.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 13:10 [#01772949]
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Something stinks of dupe account in here. Someone who flounced off in a tizzy.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-11-08 13:14 [#01772950]
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Only the British flounce, or experience tizzys.
*bans all UK accounts*
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nuc
from outer space (United States) on 2005-11-08 13:14 [#01772951]
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if you're referring to me, nope, i've not been on the receiving end of it myself, yet. but it does put me off coming here when i see the way other users are treated.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-11-08 13:16 [#01772954]
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haha "ok, dude"
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rogu rarebit
from beggin' for leggings on 2005-11-08 13:23 [#01772957]
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qrter was taking the piss out of people long before he became a moderator.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 13:29 [#01772958]
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God damn americans are country deserters! YOU HEARD ME MAYFLOWER CREW!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-11-08 13:36 [#01772960]
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if you don't understand why qrter would say that to bill_hicks in this thread, you haven't a clue about anything that happens on this board or what anyone is like and you should keep your mouth shut. it's like walking into a movie halfway through or pulling a tridenti. you're hopelessly out of your element.
but as anyone can plainly see, it's open season on moderators from trolling dupe accounts of former members who have been banned for acting like pricks.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-11-08 13:37 [#01772961]
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i have to agree with nuc a bit. qrter is sometimes a total pretentious, pompous, condescending ass. Not just in his review of music, but also of people. For example, he is only really friendly to a select few who "earn" his respect. you can tell who these people are because he calls them by their real names. This persnickety, discriminating personality, and his narrowly selective positive review of people and music tends to add an illusion of authority to his opinion.
Now he uses this political capital against The Campfire Headphase and it is doubly upsetting to fans of this album because he is preaching his negative opinion from up on his high horse.
** at the end of this post here, I am thinking "should I post this message?" If I do, then qrter will probably never be nice to me. He will likely never call me by my real name (it's steve, by the way). And, in a way, I am being a little pompous, and thus hypocritical. But then again, I think it's kind of a funny observation and I rarely stir up the shit here so... *click*
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 13:48 [#01772966]
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OK, if you say :)
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2005-11-08 13:50 [#01772968]
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What the fuck, big deal.
I'm on another messageboard that is like an absolute dictatorship, your posts are edited and deleted by mods for the hell of calling it spam. Their elitist attitudes make any form of elitism here seem like childs play. In fact, out of all the messageboards I've been to, XLT is the most lenient one.
Sure we have our bouts of stupidity, or stone faced seriousness, or even bitching about the two, but it all comes down to one thing. Zilty.
So remember that all you newcomers.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 13:50 [#01772970]
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Hi steve! My names brian! :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-08 13:54 [#01772973]
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HAHAHA
heil fleet!
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-11-08 13:56 [#01772977]
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i wish someone would give me a bocpkin to clean up this bocsplosion of bocwank.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-11-08 13:57 [#01772978]
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Will a Bocger King one do?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-11-08 14:06 [#01772983]
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On behalf of qrter, can I just say that I am taking my pants off balancing a bag of crisps on my face.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-11-08 14:11 [#01772986]
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you... you said my name! my actual name! *sniff* thank you. *sniffle* thankyou for.. for.. treating me like a ... *sniff* a human being...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-11-08 14:15 [#01772991]
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im pretty sure qrter will very upset when she reads this thread. not.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-11-08 14:17 [#01772992]
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i've always liked you Goran much better than I like qrter.
I mean qrter is alright sometimes, funny even. but you Goran, your presence I always enjoy.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-11-08 14:20 [#01772993]
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what was that following up?
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