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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-20 12:22 [#01198184]
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france won't even qualify from the group stages
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 12:23 [#01198187]
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how's that? is england going to eliminate them? aha hahaha
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:24 [#01198189]
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italy is unknown for me this time... I dont know many of the players
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-20 12:25 [#01198191]
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no, switzerland & croatia will
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-20 12:26 [#01198197]
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don't you get loads of magazines saturating the market about euro 2004? just buy one and read up on the teams. or some piss poo pull-out from a newspaper with a chart to fill in.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:28 [#01198205]
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that wouldnt be the first time.... korea hehehehe
btw, in 1/4 finals it would be very possible to see this match:
spain - france
or
spain - england
(if these three pass I mean)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 12:30 [#01198214]
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italy can probably put the strongest team together, they have plenty of excellent players for every position, all they need to do is to start playing more offensive.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-20 12:30 [#01198215]
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i would prefer spain vs england, then we are guarenteed to get to the final at least
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 12:31 [#01198217]
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i see...yeah, i've missed that...now im not so sure about france no more.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:38 [#01198257]
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I know what you mean
but maybe this year is diferent
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:39 [#01198259]
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vote
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happy cycling
from berlin on 2004-05-20 13:08 [#01198365]
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france will win, i think.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 16:04 [#01198804]
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france played a shitty match against brazil today...but they all looked very tired, i hope they put their shit together for the championship.
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mc_303_beatz
from Glasgow, Scotland on 2004-05-20 16:08 [#01198810]
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Holland will win this. And Larsson will score 8 goals for Sweden
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-05-20 16:57 [#01198881]
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Yes, I also doubt France will win this EURO campaign, looking at their last two matches. Henry was a shadow of his Arsenal status and looked exhausted and Zidane has always been waaaay overrated even though he's a certainly a gifted player. Desailly is due to retirement and there hasn't been a new Deschamps. And if Barthez is going to be the goalkeeper expect some costly defensive blunders.
There's no outspoken favorites for this EURO2004, though if the Dutch can get their shit together, especially mentally, they might top it with an excellent mix of veterans and young talents but they have a long way to go in what I believe to be the most difficult group stage.
Btw tols, Italy is always a contender for the title exactly because of the defensive way they play so they should definitely avoid offensive strategies.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 17:04 [#01198893]
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well, i will still cheer for france to win. and i don't really think zidane is overrated :) he's the best there is, and i enjoy watching him play very much...so i don't quite agree :)
as for henry, i was never to fond of him, i prefer trezeguet by far, one of best strikers around imo.
about italy, yes they can come pretty far with their style, but they never get on top, coz you have to score if you want to win. they have best defensive players imo (canavarro and nesta especially), so maybe they should put more attention to more offensive football...they hardly score, and they have totti, vieri, del piero, delvecchio, montella,...no other team has as many great strikers as italy...maybe they'll change their style one day...
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 17:04 [#01198894]
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zidane overrated???
look, I am a barça suporter, so I hate real madrid, but even so I tell you I have watched like half of the matches real madrid has played in the last 3 seasons and zidane is just a magic player, one of the best in history. overrated? no way
but its true, he is tired now, and maybe his best days have passed I dont know.... but till this year he was the best without a doubt
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 17:08 [#01198903]
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nice to hear that from you :)
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-05-20 17:50 [#01198973]
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What I meant is that it's ridiculous to see every single move he makes as brilliant, which is obviously not the case with Zidane or any other player ever, but this is just what happens with him at the moment. He only needs to look at the ball and people cum in their pants already, that's what I mean by overrated, and I also don't think he's the greatest football player of the last 50 years, in the top 10 for sure but not the best. But that's all a matter of opinion anyway.
As for saying no other team has so many great strikers than Italy I'd have to say that Holland has at least as many and better strikers and even most of the midfielders and defenders are good goalscorers.
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-21 00:50 [#01199515]
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Is Tristan injured? Why is not in the list?
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korben dallas
from nz on 2004-05-21 01:18 [#01199558]
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its finally here - the nacmatâ„¢ & wooferâ„¢ EURO2004 thread ;)
group A: Portugal -2 Greece Spain -1 Russia
group B: France -1 England -2 Switzerland Croatia
group C: Sweden -2 Bulgaria Denmark Italy -1
group D: Czech Rep Latvia Germany -2 Holland -1 ^ this is immensely tough - Czech Republic should go through .. but i have a feeling that Germany are going through. Points differential (?) :'( ...
Q1: Spain vs England Q2: France vs Portugal Q3: Italy vs Germany Q4: Holland vs Sweden
Wishful thinking - but i'd love to see a Holland vs Spain (or Italy) final, which would also mean an Italy vs Spain semi-final!
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nacmat
on 2004-05-21 02:17 [#01199657]
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he is not in a good moment
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-05-21 04:01 [#01199717]
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Strange, Tristan is Tristan and if i would be the Spanish Coach I'd call him without any doubt.
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nacmat
on 2004-05-21 05:58 [#01199810]
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I prefer torres, raul and morientes
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2004-05-21 06:44 [#01199931]
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group A:
Portugal - 2nd Greece Spain - 1st Russia
group B:
France - 1st England - 2nd Switzerland Croatia
group C:
Sweden Bulgaria Denmark - 2nd Italy - 1st
group D:
Czech Rep - 2nd Latvia Germany Holland - 1st
Q1 Spain - England Q2 France - Portugal Q3 Italy - Czech Rep Q4 Holland - Denmark
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nacmat
on 2004-06-02 11:02 [#01219579]
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salgado is injured
capdevilla will sutitute him (deportivo)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-06-02 11:07 [#01219585]
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group A:
1) Spain 2) Portugal 3) Greece 4) Russia
group B:
1) France 2) Croatia 3) England 4) Switzerland
group C:
1) Sweden 2) Italy 3) Denmark 4) Bulgaria
group D:
1) Czech Rep 2) Holland 4) Germany 4) Latvia
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-06-02 11:13 [#01219594]
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my swedish lineup:
henrik larsson - zlatan ibrahimovic
fredrik ljungberg - kim källström - anders svensson - christan wilhelmsson
edman - svensson - mellberg - lukic
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2004-06-02 15:02 [#01219971]
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im positive that we'll become 1st in our group! (denmark)
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2004-06-02 15:49 [#01220014]
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oh, and goalie andreas isaksson
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nacmat
on 2004-06-02 15:52 [#01220020]
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denmark gave one of the best players in history
michael laudrup
he made me love football
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2004-06-02 15:54 [#01220024]
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maybe we can make a poll voting for the champion? there aren't so many polls on this mb, so why not?
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-02 15:55 [#01220026]
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yesterday - england 1 japan 1, a great sign of things to come
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-02 15:56 [#01220028]
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sweden need MATTIAS svensson. he will be playing premiership football next season, if he does well i guess he stands a good chance of getting back into the swedish team.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-02 15:56 [#01220030]
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they let england draw, coz they feel sorry for beckham.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-06-02 16:08 [#01220043]
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yeah i feel sorry for him. id be gutted if i got paid £100,000 a week and had to constantly knob posh spice
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-02 16:11 [#01220046]
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hehe, well the media is hard on him...see, he's apperantly knobbing more than posh only.
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2004-06-03 02:58 [#01220555]
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I'm going for The Netherlands I guess... that Holland/Germany game should be wicked!
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-06-03 03:18 [#01220575]
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i havent followed the previous discussion and just wanted to add that holland are soooo going to loose from the czechics. it's their angst-gegner.
so in that pool: germany 1st and czech rep second
although the opposite reasoning is applicable to germany-holland...i dunno
nah, the germans always win in the last minute, so after 80 mins the score will be 1-0 in favor of holland and after 90 mins 2-1 for germany. something like that
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2004-06-03 06:54 [#01220861]
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Italy will have a great attack:
DelPiero - Totti - Vieri
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-06-03 17:21 [#01221619]
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Yes, considering their hopelessly uninspiring "knitting style" of play they displayed against Belgium and a coach who stubbornly believes in just that worthless system I'd say they're not gonna get far at all, as all the teams in their poule are playing the way Belgium did, only with better players.
They're just gonna let Holland play their stupid little "safety play", smother the two strikers and wait for a lethal counterattack, trust the Czechs and the Germans and the Letlandees to do just that.
And also expect Holland to heavily underestimate Letland and lose from them. But if they play like the 2nd half against Faroer I'll give 'em half a chance.
It's no problem to go out in first round, cos Holland/Germany is a final already, of course Holland has to win that one, Germany isn't the same as back in the days, although somehow they always do well in tournaments even though they have such average players.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-06-04 00:55 [#01222062]
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the painful truth, but perhaps holland's still got a card up its sleeve. remember their win all/loose all match against scotland? if they can reach that level again the germans would be nowhere and even the czechs should be afraid. holland would surely reach the finals. hopefully against portugal or france (half final against italy?).
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korben dallas
from nz on 2004-06-04 01:06 [#01222068]
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fucking'g dutch luck huh ... the upside is that either way, the pool games promise to be spectacular (i guess the hope is that it doesn't come down to points differential). and yes, the germans have an uncanny ability to pull it together when it counts, mm..
still i'm confident NL will make it no.1 in pool d ...
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-06-05 14:31 [#01224286]
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Another pathetic and poignant display by the Dutch tonight. Still the fruitless embroider tactic without wingers that "Dick" so stubbornly keeps believing in. I think the Dutch can expect an early exit playing this tactic.
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2004-06-05 14:42 [#01224298]
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My older brother and his mates is flying to Portugal to see swedens games.
I envy him.
Go sweden!!. I have very high hopes for them this year. They will be the surprice team that shock everybody else i hope.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2004-06-05 15:06 [#01224331]
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yes, i couldnt view anymore after the first half....it was that bad. dick deserves the same 'holiday' bush is going to take after the next elections
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nacmat
on 2004-06-12 08:21 [#01236444]
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yes yes yes
this starts today
portugal - greece
spain - russia
not great matches but yes for me as I am spanish and tomorrow england - france
I love football
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-12 10:51 [#01236574]
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greece 1 - 0 portugal
this started of surprising...
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nacmat
on 2004-06-12 10:53 [#01236578]
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portugal is like spain:
lots of quality but a loser mentality
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-06-12 11:22 [#01236616]
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if spain doesn't win russia today, im not speaking to you for a week!!
btw, it's 2-0 for greece now :)
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