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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-12-06 16:26 [#00980008]
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group A: Portugal-1st Greece Spain -2nd Russia
group B: France-2nd England-1st Switzerland Croatia
group C: Sweden-2nd Bulgaria Denmark Italy-1st
group D: Czech Rep-2nd Latvia Germany Holland-1st
it's really tough to call this shit, cause i haven't really been following the qualifying all that closely... group A is going to be a fucking cracker.... i'm definitely going to make a point of watching the Portugal-Spain game....
group b will be interesting too (in fact, because it's only 16 teams making it... every group in Euro is interesting...)... i have a feeling that England will do well this time around in the preliminary stages... i can definitely see them beating out france, who seem to be on a the decline still... group c is pretty wide open... i wouldn't be surprised to see italy struggle some... but i think they will go through... the choice of sweden for second feels a bit arbitrary though... they have a good team, if they perform, i will probably be right...
group d is tough to call... i'm inclined to pick Holland over germany, simply because they have something to prove, having missed the last world cup and all... but the czech republic could easily steal either one of their spots...
-the teams who i think have a good chance of winning are Italy, Portugal, and Spain... Italy: because a lot of their players are really firing on all cylinders right now, and i feel like they're due for a triumph of this size... Portugal: cause it's their home turf (which can never be underestimated), and they have a lot of talent... Spain: because they should have made it farther in the world cup, and i think they have a fantastic team... it's a shame they won't have hierro in the back field, but i think they have more than a few players who can replace him... is Luis Enrique retired from international ball now too?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-06 16:43 [#00980013]
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i like your thought about italy...but imo the truble are not players, they're always the best there are, its simply their way of playing that always bring their chances down. i mean with buffon, nesta and cannavaro they have one of the strongest defences but instead of attacking they're defending way too much...and they have such a great attack...imagine: totti, del piero, vieri, inzaghi...they should be winning matches with at least 3 goals scored, but they're always playing for only 1 goal
they have great football experts/managers who are doing great tactics in their league, even attacking strategies, but who ever is coaching the national squad always plays defensive football...i trully hope they change their way of playing this year!!!
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DeadEight
from vancouver (Canada) on 2003-12-06 17:20 [#00980043]
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i think Trappatoni fucked them over at the last world cup with his piss-poor coaching... and i've just checked the euro site and i find that he is still coaching them... dammit... well my only hope is that he can realize that Del Piero is itching to win a championship for this team, and he just has to let him on to the bloody field...
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-06 17:23 [#00980048]
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well, if id be in position to select a team i'd put del piero, totti, vieri and inzaghi in the game at the same time...but that is not likely to happen...tho both, totti and del piero can play in the midfield
but its not up to me :)
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loneranger
from Sweden on 2003-12-06 17:38 [#00980059]
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I think the Czech Republica will win the turnement
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nacmat
on 2003-12-08 04:21 [#00981616]
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it was 1983 when real madrid last won in camp now in league
bye bye 20 years
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-08 05:10 [#00981647]
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it's a good thing for Europe that strangely enough, Canada isn't allowed in the Eurocup... otherwise, you'd all die!!
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bill_hicks
from my city is amazing it is calle on 2003-12-08 05:19 [#00981651]
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Let's cut the crap and get a fucking poll going! My votes are as follows -
Celtic - 4 Real madrid - 8 Man utd. - 7 Arsenal - 5 Barcelona - 6 Inter - 6
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-08 09:53 [#00981969]
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so when was the last time barca won at santiago bernabeu?
and imo kluivert is beeing forced to play too much - he could use couple of matches on the bench...and perhaps saviola could play some more. i have no idea what's their problem, maybe they're playing to much like individuals instead of playing like a team...but thats easy to say, i hope they improve something soon.
funkmaster - die laughing? oh, and if i were you i'd send a letter to uefa and ask why canada isnt allowed to play on eurocup
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The_Funkmaster
from St. John's (Canada) on 2003-12-08 09:57 [#00981972]
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maybe I will, maybe I will!!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-08 10:05 [#00981987]
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you know if you would've thought of this before, you could stop by their office while you were in paris (i think its there anyway) and break someones leg or something :)
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nacmat
on 2003-12-08 10:06 [#00981989]
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barça won at bernabeu in year 1997 2-3
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-08 10:09 [#00981994]
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thank you
well if ronaldinho will be playing on next match they have pretty good chance of winning again...i think
do you perhaps know what is the overal standing in matches between barca and real?
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nacmat
on 2003-12-08 10:22 [#00982013]
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wait
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rez
from here on 2003-12-08 11:43 [#00982173]
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is it true that barcelona once won with 13-0 from real? (back in the 40s i think)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 08:46 [#00983175]
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ok, gonna stop waiting now :)
j/k ofcourse, but if you ever read about that somewhere it'd be nice if you could tell us here :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 08:49 [#00983177]
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btw, what is happening to juve?? first they lot to inter a week ago and now they lost to lazio!!??
funny thing...fotball...
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nacmat
on 2003-12-09 08:50 [#00983179]
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I cant find it
:(
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 08:54 [#00983183]
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surely barcelona is way up on that...
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nacmat
on 2003-12-09 10:39 [#00983317]
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shit as much as I try I odnt find a website with that stats
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-09 10:45 [#00983325]
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it doesnt matter really, dont bother with that...if you ever read about it in a newspaper post it
perhaps i'll have a look and see if i can find something about that when i get home...cos i see you just cant let it go :)
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nacmat
on 2003-12-09 10:56 [#00983340]
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I know I saw that stats not long ago... but now...
well someday when I find it I ll post it here
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-14 17:48 [#00991306]
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spanish league is really nice to watch, especially if real madrid is playing :)
real 2 - 1 deportivo
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nacmat
on 2003-12-14 18:01 [#00991351]
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it was a great matvh indeed
did you see barça on saturday?
the referee went crazy and the match ended 8 vs 8
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-14 18:08 [#00991362]
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haha, no i havent seen that, nor heard of the result :)
how many penalties?
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nacmat
on 2003-12-14 18:15 [#00991377]
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1-3
not one penalty
there was no fight either
just the referee went crazy
minute 47 it was already 10 vs 9
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-14 18:18 [#00991384]
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haha, i see now, i thought match ended 8 - 8 but i see you mean there were 8 players left in each team...i wish i would have seen that
there was a little fight in a depor - real match tho...appearantly beckham isnt as calm as i thought he was, but that other guy-scaloni was looking for it :)
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-18 16:00 [#00997215]
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finally i read something about that overal standings between real and barca - it was in some magazine today, about the last game at nou camp:
73rd match between these two at nou camp (in spanish championship)
barca won 43 times - 15 times in the last 20 years real won 17 times - including this last game
but it says nothing about matches played at santiago bernabeu...
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nacmat
on 2003-12-18 16:27 [#00997234]
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it will be the other way around for sure
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-18 16:31 [#00997236]
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i'll post after the game at bernabeu :)
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nacmat
on 2003-12-19 10:24 [#00998175]
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right now:
spain - brazil
football world championship sub 20
spain with one less player since minute 3 for a red car
0-0
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nacmat
on 2003-12-19 10:47 [#00998223]
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0-0
starts second half
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-19 10:50 [#00998230]
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go brazil!!!
:)
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nacmat
on 2003-12-19 10:51 [#00998235]
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oh... so you support the same team the referee does
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2003-12-19 10:52 [#00998237]
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haha, go ref!!!
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 11:05 [#01198006]
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now its time to discuss football!!
spain list for eurocup:
goalkeepers: Casillas, Cañizares and Aranzubia
defenders: Juanito, Puyol, Salgado, Helguera, Marchena, Raúl Bravo, Gabri and César
midfielders: Albelda,Vicente, Valerón, JoaquÃn, Xabi Alonso, Xavi, Baraja, Etxeberria
strikers: Raúl, Morientes, Fernando Torres and Luque
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X-tomatic
from ze war room on 2004-05-20 11:27 [#01198040]
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It strikes me as odd that they took 3 defenders from real madrid while obviously they are some of the most crappy in the liga. The stats say enough.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-20 11:29 [#01198046]
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morientes will be playing in england next season
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:02 [#01198126]
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100% agree
I would have taken these defenders:
left: del horno and juanfran
center: cesar, marchena, juanito, garcia calvo
right: puyol, salgado
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-20 12:05 [#01198136]
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where the hell is reyes?
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:08 [#01198139]
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not going...
but I understand why
he can play as a striker: but is he better than raul, torres or morientes? NOT YET
he can play left wing, but we got vicente and luque both did a great season
its sad, cos I would have taken one less defender and would have brought reyes too, but...
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-20 12:12 [#01198151]
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he plays for the best team in europe
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 12:14 [#01198155]
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I HOPE FRANCE WINS THIS ONE!
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:16 [#01198162]
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fuck you!
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:16 [#01198164]
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he plays in monaco or porto? or valencia?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 12:17 [#01198167]
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no really, I WISH FRANCE WINS THIS ONE.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2004-05-20 12:19 [#01198174]
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YOU KNOW WHERE!
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nacmat
on 2004-05-20 12:20 [#01198178]
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hahahahahaha
tolstoyed, you know something? I enjoy a lot sharing this MB with people like you
france is a great team indeed... but being spanish my answer is obvious
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 12:21 [#01198179]
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anyway, if france fails, I HOPE ITALY TAKES IT!
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2004-05-20 12:21 [#01198181]
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i enjoy sharing it with myself as well...AND YOU!
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