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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-07 15:23 [#00813599]
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A) Someone is buying the record but don't listen to it!
B) Someone is getting the tracks off Soulseek and love it!
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-07 15:24 [#00813602]
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That would depend on the arrtist.
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Phobiazero
from the next Xltronic (Sweden) on 2003-08-07 15:25 [#00813606]
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Lets say an established professional artist.
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Clic
on 2003-08-07 15:26 [#00813607]
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B.
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Morton
from out (Netherlands, The) on 2003-08-07 15:27 [#00813609]
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fuckers who make music just for money would say A) artists that are dedicated to making music and want to let others enjoy their stuff too would say B) if of course they still have enough money to live :)
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-08-07 15:27 [#00813610]
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hard to choose. but personally i would choose B).
afx says in interviews that he dosent care who dose or dosent listen to his tunes but im guessing deep down inside he would choose B)
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Anus_Presley
on 2003-08-07 15:28 [#00813612]
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I don't think any arrtist would be happy to make NO money, but I think some people who do it because they love doing it would be happy just to make a living frrom it and just be glad that people listen to what they make.
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warpphex
from lurkston, ziltyland. (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-07 15:29 [#00813613]
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Tricky but i would say A. To buy tanks, flash laptops and to live in a bank vault reqires plenty of wonga
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avart
from nomo' on 2003-08-07 15:31 [#00813615]
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Don?t know - but I hope B., cause money shouldn?t be the reason for making music. Then again, it?s a bit hard to be "professional" if no money at all comes from your music. Tricky.
(...and again B. could lead to A. and even more listening!)
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-08-07 15:35 [#00813619]
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B) Someone is getting the tracks off Soulseek and love it!
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raimons
from Stockholm (Sweden) on 2003-08-07 15:35 [#00813621]
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....and if ýou love, then buy the record. ot buy the record. if its bad? sell it and buy something else.
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2003-08-07 16:00 [#00813634]
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a)
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2003-08-07 16:03 [#00813638]
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b) but i will buy it if i like it
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2003-08-07 16:04 [#00813640]
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I would say B as well. There is a certain satisfaction knowing that people like our music!
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-08-07 16:05 [#00813641]
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BBBBBBBBB
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ziggomatic
from ??....uv ajed...deja vu....?? on 2003-08-07 16:06 [#00813642]
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(oops......my pet iguana "Iggy(sion)" stepped on the correct answer to that question! :)
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corngrower
from the fertile grounds of Iowa, w (United States) on 2003-08-07 16:17 [#00813652]
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definetly a, because then they could buy more drugs and whores
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-07 16:19 [#00813655]
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a & b of course.
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promo
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-07 16:20 [#00813657]
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a primarily.
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b0nk
from 1969 in the sunshine (United States) on 2003-08-07 16:21 [#00813658]
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true "artists" b, but everyone needs some money to survive
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-08-07 16:24 [#00813661]
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It's the creativity that matters, b is the one true answer. This is why all true artists need to work part time at kwik save.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-08-07 16:28 [#00813664]
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true dat deepspace9mm
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Portland
from San Diego (United States) on 2003-08-07 16:31 [#00813670]
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its a mixture of both. if no one buys it, then the labels will no longer release it. so someone has to spend money on it. it is always nice though when someone really likes the music no matter what.
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Monoid
from one source all things depend on 2003-08-07 16:43 [#00813688]
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A) ...lets be realistic
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2003-08-07 16:43 [#00813689]
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as an artist, i just want as many people as possible to hear my music.
in fact, i am giving away FREE my 4 track demo e.p.'s. I even pay shipping. If you want one, email me your mailing address and i will send you one (while supplies last, i only made 200)
evolume@hotmail.com
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hobbes
from age on 2003-08-07 16:47 [#00813692]
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depends how poor the artist is... ...though the richer they are the tighter they seem to get!
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hobbes
from age on 2003-08-07 16:48 [#00813694]
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why buy the record if your not gonna listen to it ?
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-08-07 16:51 [#00813695]
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Exactly. I don't make music as much as paint / make visual art but the object isn't to make money, although it's nice so that you can spend the proceeds on making more art :-)
Telling artists to stop making music or making art unless they're getting money is like telling someone to stop breathing.
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hobbes
from age on 2003-08-07 16:53 [#00813697]
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thats how you see who s real!!
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hobbes
from age on 2003-08-07 16:54 [#00813698]
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"right here holding my nuts"
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deepspace9mm
from filth on 2003-08-07 16:56 [#00813699]
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"sign to rawkus? i'd rather be mouth-fucked by nazis unconscious"
:D
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Asche XL
on 2003-08-07 17:12 [#00813709]
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I would prefer B if I was an established artist, although it would be VERY nice for them to buy my records.
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aquagak
from Berlin (Germany) on 2003-08-07 17:18 [#00813715]
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hey evolume, i would love a copy of your ep. i sent you an email
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-07 17:19 [#00813716]
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Slightly related... Depends how you look at it.
click here
Do you believe her reasons for selling her music again, or, should she have offered free downloads from her sight for 'the fans'?
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purlieu
from Leeds (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-07 17:26 [#00813723]
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B, just. This is why I offer songs on my website and such. At the same time, I'd not say no to some of A in the long run. It happens to everyone. But I'd rather have more Bs than As, I suppose.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-07 17:28 [#00813726]
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it's silly; so many fans of other artists have a legitimate complaint over not ENOUGH material. for bjork, the fans can simply say "no." collectors--people who MUST OWN EVERYTHING--need serious help anyway, so if they're mad at bjork for releasing so much stuff, they have their own problems to worry about. i only wish some of my other favorite artists (radiohead, RDJ, NIN, godspeed, mogwai, dj shadow, tool) were as prolific as bjork's been lately.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-07 17:30 [#00813727]
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so do you believe her?
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ambsace
from canaDUH. on 2003-08-07 17:31 [#00813728]
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evolume has e-mail.
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-07 17:31 [#00813729]
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personally..
B
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2003-08-07 17:32 [#00813730]
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good question though...
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-07 17:33 [#00813733]
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i'm more inclined to believe what she says than disbelieve it, but i wouldn't agree with her blindly. it seems likely but there could be other issues at hand, ie: supporting her new baby, funding her new album, etc. whether her motives are pure or not, it's totally true that no one HAS to own every little thing. i have 2 bjork dvd's and i plan to buy just 3 or 4 more; i don't buy import singles, etc.
this seems a lot more noble to me than an artist releasing another greatest hits collection (and so many bands and singers have done this), although that's something a lot of artists have no control over (label decision). or releasing a sub-par live album.
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2003-08-07 17:36 [#00813743]
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B.
Why the fuck would you buy a record and not listen to it? Thats just stupid, imo.
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-07 17:39 [#00813748]
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i have a stack of cd's i've bought and not listened to. a lot of these when i ordered them i had much more free time. some i just wanted to take advantage of the sale price. others i've been waiting till i've had time to really focus on it during my first listen. i have 700 cd's and too many of them i haven't heard enough of. but i know i'll have them for years (barring any theft, fire, etc.) and someday appreciate them to the extent they deserve.
i also have like 2 gigs of mp3's i've downloaded but not listened to. what can i say, i seek out lots of music and i don't have time for everything.
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J Swift
from United Kingdom on 2003-08-07 17:42 [#00813753]
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I'd probably say A, cos otherwise you'd have to get a regular job and not be able to devote so much time to making music.
I think a lot of successful artists make music mainly for themselves - Not to listen to, just as a need to create...
I'd definetly go with A, although it'd be nice if other well-known producers liked my stuff.
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2003-08-07 17:44 [#00813758]
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there hasn't been any 'hits' though since the last 'greatest hits' was released. It is a commercial venture and that's it. I'm not saying she hasn't got her personal reasons but I don't think they're noble, it's related to the topic, sell or give?
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titsworth
from Washington, DC (United States) on 2003-08-07 17:49 [#00813771]
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i was talking about other bands releasing a best-of set two or more times.. look at classic rock bands for good examples of this. this is a counterargument to what bjork is doing, which is releasing something new (though not a new studio album or EP.. speaking of which, why doesn't she do proper EP's? that would be well wicked) that fans can pick up if they want to. some bands (even the clash have been guilty of this) try to push the same product over and over. so, it may be all "products" instead of "art", but it's still a cool thing to have and i support bjork for doing it. i didn't buy greatest hits or family tree since most of the material was already in my collection (FT not so much, but it was too expensive and impractical), but i'll most likely get the live boxed set unless it gets bad reviews.
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nacmat
on 2003-08-07 17:52 [#00813773]
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britney-----------a
aphex------------a
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LeCoeur
from the outer edge of the universe (United States) on 2003-08-07 23:39 [#00814000]
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i just can't believe peepz (musicians) would not wanna be paid for their work. i mean is 10-12 dollars really that much for something you love?
i think the artist would prefer choice A, and hopefully it won'd sit around for long
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2003-08-08 06:11 [#00814189]
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b
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2003-08-08 06:18 [#00814198]
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C - Banzai bash up!
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