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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-07 08:26 [#01655074]
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and the UVF, and the UFF, and the UDA, and the LVF
and elsewhere, the tamil tigers, the jewish defence league, the shiv sena, the PLO, ETA..
Exaph's post is one of the most ignorant and racist i've ever seen.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorist_groups
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 08:27 [#01655076]
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33 fatalities confirmed now.
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-07-07 08:28 [#01655077]
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yes britain is statistically more at risk from the IRA than any other terrorist group. expha,i know its easy to point the finger, but think very carefully about what you say on such a subject. that is such and ignorant and bigoted comment its disgusting.
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Peter File
from the future!!! Ooooh chase me! on 2005-07-07 08:29 [#01655078]
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Not necessarily racist, but definitely so ignorant that I thought he must have been taking the piss.
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gay_dad
from 5 go mad in Dorset (Chile) on 2005-07-07 08:29 [#01655080]
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Terror, g8 summit, the olympics, london, ID Cards, how is it possible, how come it didn't happen before, straight on the internet when I heard the news, we are to blame, they are to blame, religion, foreign policy, asylum seekers, standstill, terror, media orgasm, The Evening fucking Standard after 4 years of "Terror Alert in London" headlines FINALLY gets to print all the graphics, maps, hysteria and grim details it's been itching to do since 9/11, portents of doom, where will it end, houseprices, shares, leaving the country, g8, war on terror, the internet.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-07-07 08:40 [#01655087]
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you would think that after all the centuries of terrorism worldwide, people would eventually learn to not have knee-jerk reactions to blaming an entire community, for which the very very very very VERY small minority is responsible.
it is easy to listen to sound bytes about how it's all about 'taking away our freedoms' yada yada yada, when it really has nothing to do with that utopian bullshit at all. it doesn't even have anything to do with religion. religion is a scapegoat - or even better, it can be a driving force - motivation. it's all about politics, betrayal and inequality (although a sweeping, generalized statement on my behalf, but better than what i usually hear).
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mark
from out of town on 2005-07-07 08:42 [#01655090]
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Brazil, where hearts were entertaining june We stood beneath an amber moon And softly murmured "someday soon" We kissed and clung together
Then, tomorrow was another day The morning found me miles away With still a million things to say Now, when twilight dims the sky above Recalling thrills of our love There's one thing I'm certain of Return I will to old Brazil
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stefano_azevedo
from Pindorama (Brazil) on 2005-07-07 08:52 [#01655102]
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brazilian last terrorist attack was at sec XVI, by the portuguese against the native indian
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 08:53 [#01655104]
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well said DAC brian paddick...
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plaidzebra
from so long, xlt on 2005-07-07 08:53 [#01655105]
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i don't think he's talking about that brazil...
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Walnut
from Somewhere in (Bosnia and Herzegovina) on 2005-07-07 08:55 [#01655107]
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after House-arrests, ID card proposals as well as that (fucking ridiculous) incitement to religious hatred bill which is just going to be manipulated by radicals everywhere as a basic form of media censorship, this attack might well back up Labour's plans to inhibit all our personal freedom. better safe than sorry is one thing, but... the future looks grim.
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Walnut
from Somewhere in (Bosnia and Herzegovina) on 2005-07-07 08:56 [#01655109]
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jenf: oil, you forgot oil. -.-
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2005-07-07 08:57 [#01655110]
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Explosions In London - Who Stands To Gain? Israel Warned, Cover-up In Progress
read this, people!
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 08:59 [#01655113]
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it's a bit fucking early to report on cover-up stories!! talk about sensationalism gone mad!
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Raz0rBlade_uk
on 2005-07-07 09:00 [#01655114]
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who is this 'Allah' chap then
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mylittlesister
from ...wherever (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 09:00 [#01655115]
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lets face it, it all boils down to money & power.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-07 09:01 [#01655116]
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what's this world coming to..terrible and disgusting :(
we should form our own country somewhere where noone would find us and just play music all day long..
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Walnut
from Somewhere in (Bosnia and Herzegovina) on 2005-07-07 09:02 [#01655119]
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chambre noire: that's a terrifyingly plausable explanation. But I can't believe that the government would do that just to get through contested anti-terror legislation, though. I mean, conspiracy theories abound.
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jenf
from Toronto (Canada) on 2005-07-07 09:03 [#01655122]
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oil is politics and inequality ;) hence, the generalization on my part.
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2005-07-07 09:17 [#01655142]
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oh nooo, never suspect the government, they would never harm you in any waaay...
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Skink
from A cesspool in eden on 2005-07-07 09:20 [#01655145]
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I think it is still too early for this kind of thing.
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evolume
from seattle (United States) on 2005-07-07 09:39 [#01655165]
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this is the first news i heard as i woke this morning. my thoughts are with you, my friends over the pond. hope you are all safe.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-07-07 09:51 [#01655169]
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oh man, it's not the stinking govt.
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Anus_Presley
on 2005-07-07 09:52 [#01655170]
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i'm getting a gun forr a starrt
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010101
from Vancouver (Canada) on 2005-07-07 09:56 [#01655176]
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I just checked, my freinds are OK.
I lost a friend in Warrington to the IRA. War, terrorism it's all the same. People you love will die
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k_maty
on 2005-07-07 10:01 [#01655182]
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Sad
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r40f
from qrters tea party on 2005-07-07 10:01 [#01655183]
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i hope everyone from here is ok. this terrible.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 10:04 [#01655190]
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giginger glad your ok,not heard from my london mates yet but sure they fine,fuckin wankers thats all i can say
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earface
from somewhere (Yugoslavia) on 2005-07-07 11:14 [#01655274]
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Still can't get hold of two mates. Probably fine though. The emergency services have been absolutely fantastic.
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pachi
from yo momma (United States) on 2005-07-07 11:24 [#01655315]
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= (
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weatheredstoner
from same shit babes. (United States) on 2005-07-07 11:43 [#01655375]
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Goddamn fundamentalists.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 12:17 [#01655504]
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Well I made it home. Fucking mental. Had a nice walk (LAZY_WALK) to the station. That isn't the correct station but google doesn't recognise City Thameslink.
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 12:22 [#01655514]
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i have a friend who lives not far from you
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nacmat
on 2005-07-07 12:34 [#01655535]
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its like 37 offical dead people now
is this with the people from the bus counted? or are more dead people to be expected?
this reminds me of madrid last year its very sad love to all uk
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glyttrbugg
from Tucson (United States) on 2005-07-07 12:38 [#01655542]
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my thoughts, to everyone involved.
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giginger
from Milky Beans (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-07 12:57 [#01655583]
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Are they OK?
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S M Pennyworth
from East Timor on 2005-07-07 13:01 [#01655590]
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uk respect
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-08 01:18 [#01656169]
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the ira have the decency to warn you
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-08 01:20 [#01656170]
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if i'm wrong i'll eat my shirt. how's that?
islamic extremists? bollocks - don't let them hijack religion.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-08 01:26 [#01656173]
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and im not trying to insight any hatred against them as a race/religion - lets get that clear - i have a muslim friend.. i just think that islam is hijacked by these terrorists, as such followers are manipulated into carrying out such atrocities..
the IRA would have warned, like the day they did when my mum and sis were in manchester.
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rustic
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-08 02:35 [#01656211]
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Yup, there is no doubt this is a direct consequence of our support of bush's illegal war. After 9-11 we should have harnassed the goodwill and sympathy from the middle east and ended the bloodshed... been bigger than the terrorists rather than picking on politically fragile, oil rich countries in the name of freedom. Our leaders, literally a few men, went under the UN and public opinion to jeapordise the lives of our soldiers and now innocent people on our own soil.
I'm from London and my reaction to yesterday is that of immense pride in our emergency services and people in general.. i heard sirens solidly for 4 hours and my building in canary wharf got evacuated but no-one really seemed to panic, we were more concerned for the death count...
I hope blair realises the can of worms he has opened, Iraq is a hotbed of terrorism now and middle eastern perception of the west is at an all time low.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-08 02:53 [#01656219]
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i agree with most of what you say, and im proud of the way brits have reacted too..
but sept 11 was a bigger attack than this, and that was pre-iraq war right? surely this would have happened regardless of the war in iraq? but with the added possibilty that had we not de-throned sadam, that it could have been chemicals yesterday..?
hasnt iraq et al, been a'hotbed of terrorism' for about 20 years + now?
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redrum
from the allman brothers band (Ireland) on 2005-07-08 03:06 [#01656231]
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You really don't know what you're talking about.
Iraq a hotbed of terrorism for the past 20 years? What, do you subscribe to daily newsfeeds from georgewbush.com or something?
Iraq was never a hotbed of terrorism until the "coalition of the willing" invaded and it turned into a free-for-all. It could never have been - Saddam was a dictator, a meglomaniac - he never allowed subversive behaviour to go on, against any country, under his nose.
And what would he have had to gain by having a dirtybomb planted in a western city? The west didn't concern him, he had plenty of enemies neighbouring him with whom he was far more worried due to the fact that his state was literally defenseless and crippled from years of sanctions.
And no, this wouldn't have happened regardless of the war in iraq. If Britain hadn't been involved, she wouldn't have been targetted.. Britain's recent history of interference in the middle east isn't anywhere near as bad as America's, so had Blair not jumped on the Iraq war bandwagon, attacks might have continued against America, but certainly not Britain.
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rustic
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-08 03:14 [#01656237]
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Exactly, its no coincidance Madrid and London have been targetted.. who are the two main supporters of US?
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2005-07-08 03:21 [#01656241]
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WHO STANDS TO GAIN FROM THIS?
who made the most money after 9/11?
ta-ta-taaaaaaa: ?
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-07-08 03:22 [#01656242]
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what are you on to?
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rustic
from London (United Kingdom) on 2005-07-08 03:24 [#01656243]
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Over the next few weeks no doubt there will be fabricated links between Iran and the attacks on london, blah blah blah..
They won't get away with it again, people know the last one was illegal
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-08 03:50 [#01656260]
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you need to chill. i made no claims there; only questions. and i cant stand bush, and i do think him, or more likely his dad, is to blame for things going sour with bin laden et al.
but didnt iraq needlessly invade kuwait in the 80's? didnt sadam breed that army? his sons were ruthless rapists and terrorists weren't they? have these hostage takers in iraq just sprung up from the fucking smoke? they were surely bred by sadam.
and you can never claim this wouldnt have happened on our shores if it were not for the iraq war, cos you cant be certain. i totally take your point about this war, and us getting involved and that.. but how would you have dealt with sadam.. just waited until he had enough strength to start meddling with bigger fish?
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-07-08 03:55 [#01656265]
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*sorry they invaded iran from 1980-1988 and kumait from 90-91 i believe..
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chambre noire
from Iceland on 2005-07-08 03:58 [#01656266]
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Blairs public opinion has been very low lately... watch now how he'll be declaired a saint for taking care of this mess of 'terrorists'...
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