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Vin3islih
from United Kingdom on 2005-02-14 11:35 [#01498456]
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This NOT, I repeat NOT Autechre. No fucking way. BS.
My word on this.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2005-02-14 11:37 [#01498463]
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w3rd
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-14 11:38 [#01498464]
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now i've heard it all, no it's not them. it can't be them because i like one of the tracks, fermium.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-14 11:39 [#01498469]
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hehh
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-02-14 11:40 [#01498473]
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shall we finally put out in clear that we're sean&rob?
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welt
on 2005-02-14 11:43 [#01498476]
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i made these mp3s. i basically sampled a few seconds from old autechre recordings, reworked and manipulated the samples and then rearranged them, then added some software synthesizers and beats. i wanted to see if the hiphop attitude of creating new music by mixing old samples also works in elektronika. there you go.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-02-14 11:43 [#01498477]
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this thread is NOT impressive
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-14 11:44 [#01498478]
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no-one would believe us, i've tried it before.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-14 11:44 [#01498479]
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prove it
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cx
from Norway on 2005-02-14 11:45 [#01498482]
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welt bullshit :P
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2005-02-14 11:45 [#01498484]
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1000+
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DataStream
from SF (United States) on 2005-02-14 11:46 [#01498485]
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The thing that throws me off is that these tracks don't "evolve" the same way normal autechre tracks do. Like in pro radii, the part where it just breaks in with the synchopated metallic clang on the left channel and a new rhythm entirely.
AE normally follows standard dance music procedures of building tracks up and taking them down, very horrizontal composition, then they take the elements and deconstruct them at some point (changing tempo, tonal qualities, etc) and then build back up ontop of that. but some of these tracks have very horizontal compositions with sudden bridges or verses without repeating themes. its sort of a departure, not entirely impossible or unwelcome, but definately out of character.
BUT
it sounds very similar to their live show at points, which given the description warp posted makes sense...
we'll know soon enough.
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-14 11:48 [#01498490]
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Whatever happened to that there warp description? It's not there any more.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-02-14 11:57 [#01498502]
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CX = AE
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a guest
from the visual field on 2005-02-14 11:59 [#01498507]
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"The follow up to 2003's critically lauded Draft 7.3, Autechre's eighth full album is a dense yet elegantly expansive work that ripples with some of the duo's key signatures: epileptic rhythmic counterpoints, complex, spiralling melodic cells, immense tectonic shifts in the low end, dagger sharp glacial crackles in the upper registers. But it also hits straight between the eyes with a raw, almost live-in-the-room immediacy. 'We're really cranked up and in a totally different gear at the moment'. Sean Booth discloses, in reference to the new album. 'It feels like we're working in a quite radically different way now; not so much in terms of the final output ¬I'll let others judge that - but we're getting ideas down a lot quicker now, trying to make the most of what time we've got'.
It's an urgency which manifests on the thudding LCC, or the equally unyielding opening passages of Ipacial Section, a strange bass end warmth cushioning what sounds like dysfunctional kitchen utensils trying to disco dance. Pro Radii, meanwhile, is the album's most thunderous piece ¬it's harsh reverberations might be something inspired by (or even recorded in) the tumult of an Iraq war fire fight, with blasts of percussive clamour and disturbing shards of human noise spasmodically flashing into frame.
But there are less frenetic moments ¬both opening tracks cede to more restful extended codas and even the squirming time signature of Augmatic Disport eventually evolves into a dreamily spacious dub pulse. Elsewhere, those electro influences hove firmly into view on the almost jaunty Fermium ('That_s just a shout-out, really, to people who know. We can't get away from the fact that we're DJs,' Booth confesses) and while Iera and The Trees forage madly but meticulously on house and techno's furthest shores, Sublimit is nothing short of clipped space funk."
posted on watmm on Feb 9, I don't know what the source is though (maybe warp, but i didn't see it there)
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cx
from Norway on 2005-02-14 12:03 [#01498510]
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guys i figured it out.
follow these steps carefully to find out why its fake:
1. first, find autechre - bine, and queue it in your mp3 player, then find autechre - fermium and queue it up after.
2. listen to the first 20 seconds of bine 3. listen to the first 20 seconds of fermium after this 4. rinse and repeat
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2005-02-14 12:05 [#01498513]
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please, no.
though augmatic disport DOES evolve into a "dreamily spacious dub pulse".... hmmm maybe not "evolve"... more crossfades :D
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epohs
from )C: on 2005-02-14 12:08 [#01498516]
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I'm really sorry man/or gal, but I think you've sorta nullified your opinion in this thread by performing a complete 180 degree flip flop of your stance, and being so positive about it both ways.
You can however join me on the sideline, as a concerned bystander if you'd like.
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a guest
from the visual field on 2005-02-14 12:11 [#01498523]
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Yeah, whoever posted these descriptions could have been involved in the fakes, or maybe the faker just read the descriptions and made the tracks to agree with them OR maybe they aren't fakes and this is the real thing, who knows
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-14 12:13 [#01498526]
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It's interesting...
I'm at the point now where I would like to know if its a fake, NOT because it would clarify this debate, but it would provide an introduction to a (semi?)equally talented artist, whom of which I would like to hear more music by. So could someone please fess up?
Here's more:
-O5's point about Phobia's confirmation that the release is sided pairs and the 2 shortest track lengths wouldn't be paired, sold me on the economics of its validity.
-3Tronik COULD be capable of this.
-The samples used WERE used in a combination of other AE releases
-Rob & Sean ARE definitely catching wind of all of this and pissing themselves.
-And finally, Warp's removal of the album's description is slightly suspicious. In it, they mentioned being into new gear, and the process being more immediate, with an "in the room" feel to it.
I will post it below.
/g
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2005-02-14 12:15 [#01498528]
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please no
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earthleakage
from tell the world you're winning on 2005-02-14 12:17 [#01498531]
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"O5's point about Phobia's confirmation that the release is sided pairs and the 2 shortest track lengths wouldn't be paired, sold me on the economics of its validity"
VINYL
SIDE A - 1,2
SIDE B - 3,4
SIDE C - 5,6,7
SIDE D - 8
next....
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-14 12:17 [#01498532]
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From the now removed Warp News in regards to the new album:
"The follow up to 2003?s Draft 7.30, Autechre's eighth full album is a dense yet elegantly expansive work that ripples with some of the duo's key signatures: epileptic rhythmic counterpoints, complex, spiralling melodic cells, immense tectonic shifts in the low end, dagger sharp glacial crackles in the upper registers. But it also hits straight between the eyes with a raw, almost live-in-the-room immediacy. "We're really cranked up and in a totally different gear at the moment," Sean Booth discloses, in reference to the new album. It feels like we're working in a quite radically different way now; not so much in terms of the final output - I'll let others judge that - but we're getting ideas down a lot quicker now, trying to make the most of what time we've got?."
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-14 12:17 [#01498533]
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It was posted above
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a guest
from the visual field on 2005-02-14 12:18 [#01498534]
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Phobia said it was: A1 lcc A2 ipacial section B1 pro radii B2 augmatic disport C1 iera C2 fermium D1 the trees D2 sublimit
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DataStream
from SF (United States) on 2005-02-14 12:20 [#01498535]
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Heh, i hadn't read that extended version of the description before. I haven't heard all the songs, but given how accurate those descriptions fit what i have heard (assuming that extended press release is legit), i am thinking this is real.
i find it hard to believe that someone could make tracks of this sophistication in less then a week and half. To do so to specifically fit those descriptions... if they did then color me impressed.
either way its a terrible quality rip.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-14 12:22 [#01498536]
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If thats the case why woul C1 and C2 be paired when they are the 2 shortest tracks on the supposed "leak?"
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2005-02-14 12:25 [#01498538]
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CAUSE ITS A FAKE.
and that "extended description" isnt from warp, its from setanor of watmm.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-02-14 12:26 [#01498539]
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i usually like Ae,but this album is quite silly! the tracks sound very shallow and there is no complexity in them...almost amateurish.
could be that they jumbled the scrapes they have in their tracks folder from 5 yrs ago.
/me is dissapointed
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-14 12:26 [#01498540]
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Well, that description sort of fits all of Autechre's releases for the past 5 years. So who ever did it, could have been following this formula and just waited. Remember, we don't have official track lengths yet. When we do, this will be settled.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-14 12:28 [#01498542]
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kokoon.... I copied it straight from warp when I posted it to em411 last week. its not there any more and people on this list can confirm it indeed was.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-02-14 12:30 [#01498545]
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ZAM!!!
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-02-14 12:31 [#01498547]
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mm,did you listened to the extrakts @ the warp site?
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a guest
from the visual field on 2005-02-14 12:32 [#01498548]
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kokoon was talking about the one i posted, which has descriptions of the individual tracks but is of unknown origin
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2005-02-14 12:32 [#01498550]
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WELL IN THAT CASE FUCK YOU AUTECHRE FOR BECOMING FUCKIN BORING UNINSPIRED TERRESTRIAL CRAP!!!
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-02-14 12:35 [#01498554]
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Autechre will release a new album "Untilted" on April 18th.
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plaster
from splitska 10 on 2005-02-14 12:36 [#01498556]
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i dunno what to think anymore.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2005-02-14 12:39 [#01498559]
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WHAT?! WHAT EXTRACTS?
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-14 12:40 [#01498560]
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> If thats the case why woul C1 and C2 be paired when > they are the 2 shortest tracks on the supposed "leak?"
Why wouldn't the 2 short tracks be paired? It would make more sense that putting a short track on one side and a long one on the flip.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2005-02-14 12:42 [#01498561]
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cause its 2 tracks per side
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-14 12:43 [#01498563]
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oh ok
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-14 12:44 [#01498564]
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Well, this sounds real to me. But then, I've never heard an Autechre track before.
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kokoon
from Ljubljana (Slovenia) on 2005-02-14 12:47 [#01498566]
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ha
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cx
from Norway on 2005-02-14 12:48 [#01498567]
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lol pomme
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-02-14 12:51 [#01498568]
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wow
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2005-02-14 12:53 [#01498569]
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Well, I am going to go ahead and put all my chips down on REAL.
I will meet you all back here in a few days/weeks and see what happened.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-02-14 12:54 [#01498571]
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this thread is like lentic catachresis, heh
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Sido Dyas
from a computer on 2005-02-14 13:00 [#01498580]
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I have only heard "Pro Radii" so far and i belive it to be very real and very awesome.
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magicant
from Canada on 2005-02-14 13:07 [#01498581]
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how can it be leaked already?? it's two months away!
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2005-02-14 13:10 [#01498584]
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some guy on slsk said he's a reporter and that he can confirm its real.
I called him out b/c he would be the first reporter to say they have a copy. he said he got a cd-r and the album title was different, so obviously he's full of crap, since they did casettes last album. he also wouldnt confirm who he worked for, but in any case, he said he was going to post a FLAC of the album.
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