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HAHAHAHAHAHA shit I did that one properly |
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all i wanted was to make some friends, i didnt think it would end like this |
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who are you? do you go to sabbath or negativity? |
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no.. who are you? |
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i run negativity and used to co-promote sabbath. |
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YOU ARE: electricity YOU ENJOY: arabs YOUR FAVORITE COLOR IS: fish |
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yes, but what kind of fish? |
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ah i see. maybe i'll check it out, i don't go out much. |
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i don't go out much. lies! |
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hoho |
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Ease up you guys, there's no point insulting cx, other then to boost your online egos. In the future though cx going from 110% postive to 149% negative in a debate is likley to get you flamed on such a board ;) I've given up on trying to figure out if it's real or not... all I know for sure is it's good stuff, whoever made it. |
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Sheesh, here we go again. When the *genuine* Confield and Draft 7.30 albums were leaked, people who claimed they were hardcore Autechre enthusiasts suggested there was possible way the tracks could be genuine Autechre. Cue ample egg on faces months later. Ironically, I put out one of the Confield fake sets myself. I just picked a bunch of semi-obscure IDM tracks from other artists, gave them Autechre-esque track titles, sat on Napster and waited for the fun to start. I thought I'd be rumbled straight away -- after all, I was chosing tracks by artists that hardcore IDM fans should have recognised. Ie, stuff by Cristian Vogel, Leila, Monolake, Michael Fakesch, etc. For fuck's sake, I even used David Arnold's remix of the Doctor Who theme tune and called it "Whord". What happened? Lots of people claiming to be Professor Autechre from the Autechre University of Autechre Studies didn't recognise them and claimed they were all genuine Autechre. What's the moral of the story? The only people who currently know whether or not these tracks are genuine are Autechre and Warp. I wouldn't trust the opinion of a self-claimed Autechre fan as far as I could throw him. As for Untilted... I've no idea if it's genuine or not. It sounds like Autechre to me, or at the very least a very clever individual (or group of individuals) who have created a pretty awesome imitation. If we're going to throw around creative conspiracy theories, then here's mine. This leak was put out by either Warp or Autechre themselves. The tracks are genuine Autechre, but not the proper album tracks. They're all remixes and outtakes they've had lying around on DAT for a year or two. Heck, when the Confield fakes started to flow, Warp acknowledged it as a cunning ploy and said they'd "considered a similar guerilla marketing tactic". Perhaps they're now putting it into practice with Untilted. Regardless of what the truth is, we've got a decent album to listen to now and we'll get a decent album to listen to in April. |
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lol good story.....how is it a clever marketing tactic to give downloaders unreleased extras though? to make it a pain in the ass to download the real leak? |
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B+ would benefit from more examples references? B.B |
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At the time Confield was released, a) there was a shit load of hype, and b) P2P file sharing was really hitting its stride. Warp knew that it was probably only a matter of time before a genuine copy leaked ahead of the street date, so they considered saturating P2P servers with loads of bogus versions, using unreleased tracks from all sorts of artists lurking in the Warp archives. The whole campaign marketing campaign would have suggested that Confield was viral and infectious, taking on a life of its own as it spread around the net, assimilating other bits of music. Everyone would be talking about this theoretically genuine Confield that didn't exist -- everyone would be talking about completely different music and never realise it. |
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http://insiderone.net/datastream/datanews089.html Do a Google search for "confield fakes" or "confield leak". There used to be more hits, but the last time I read about Warp/Autechre's response to the fakes was about 4 years ago. |
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I've been listening to it again... (I'm saying this again) and please Rob and Sean, for your next album, consider lowering the volume of your drums and beats and let everything else go forward in the mix. You sure seem to like, with Draft and now Untilted, to showcase your technical skills of drum machinery and all. But we're missing everything behind. We're missing the "soul" in those tracks. . I mean it's not bad at all. In fact it's pretty remarkable at various points. But darn, you guys didn't become famous for a bunch of TSH TSH TSTSTSH that hide everything behind it. There's always about 3 level of stuff in your tracks on every release, the percussions, electro DSP'ed processing and background ambiant. . Please reconsider it. I mean there's some tracks on Untilted, you have to force the ears to check out the totality of the soundscape. That's not fun. Rpeg is fun to hear. 6ie.cr is a great example of how you guys can bring up everything and make it fun for the ears. Even when the track deconstruct itself at the end, it's not JUST "boom tish boom tish tish". YOu can hear stuff plain normally. Acroyear2 also. CapIV. You guys remember a track you made called Vose In? They were special. Why? 'Cause they are fucking madshit all around the ears, every kind of sound is promoted and unique. . All those sounds you created on Untilted, they are pretty unique also, but they aren't promoted as they should. Listening to it, it's just not fun. It would be much more pleasing to equalise the spectrum of sounds and put back the second and third level of sound to the level of your previous release. I mean this is just a constructive opinion, I like Untilted but it's not fun really to listen to. Really the straightforward percussion is found on 6-7 tracks and it's just too loud. . Good luck on your next ventures and I'll gladly see you live in Montreal. |
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this is given, again might I add, that what you are referring to is actually a legit copy of Untilted, and it is indeed finally mixed and mastered.... which might I add, the copy that is floating around, is not |
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That's possible and I alluded to that in an earlier post of this thread. There is the possibility that it's just not mastered yet as it would be on the final CD. I still wonder how you could "master" something that's pure digital. I see no reason why Sean and Rob would work with something pretty crappy in terms of soundscaping and mastering. I really wish for such thing, but they did the similar thing on Draft7.30, the percs were up there in your ears and you would often miss about everything else in the background because of their loudness. That wasn't fun. |
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hmmmmm........ not sure. this is def. all over the place in terms of mastering thats for sure. as for mastering digital.... isn't more than half the shit sent off entirely digital now? i plead ignorance on this subject, btw. |
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Its more to get ideal levels and compression and eq. Digital sounds still need compression and eq, and need to have ideal levels. Also using different technologies, and people with different levels of expertise in the production fields. I don't think this album is real. Its pretty neat though. Much better than the other fakes out there. If an album is leaked and turns out to be a fake the major benefit the companies obtain that I could see is that most of the people out there are less likely to trust any mp3's for that release even long after the album finally comes out. |
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JEEZ.... you go away for a few days... I don't really think anyone should believe the hype.. there's really no point as all will be revealed so soon. If this is nice music then that's really cool though. I think Ae operate within circles (i.e. have friends and contacts, and are indeed such talented artists) from which a leak is a very real risk. This could be real, but I doubt they are that foolish... I'd take more to the possibility that it could be them but not the new album. We'll all know soon anyway so lets all calm down... Who am I kidding? THIS COULD BE NEW AE.... W00T!!! W00T!!! W00T!!! |
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that post made me listen again to the first track basically, that snare sound on the first track sounded so shit to, conventionally beatwise i thought it to be fake (other stuff on other tracks too, like melodies). listening more open to it (less concience really), i now think the track could be awesome and im quite sure that it took alot of time making the track and it could be autechre :D if it's sounding not good it's because maybe it still needs to be mastered, hence the big pauses before every track |
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hmmm... i seem, to have two copies of untilted now; one is 192 kbps, one is vbr, but theyre the same music. some proof that they could be genuine autechre (ripped from a cd)? ps i hope its not, i expect something moroe interesting from the boys |
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I hate to throw a monkey wrench in here, but unsurprisingly enough I just grabbed an entirely different (and still convincing, goddamnit!) "version" of the new album, not from slsk. what can I say.... well, again, could be or could not be. shit, i just dont know. the song lengths are different and this new version IS mixed and mastered. What else? Well, LCC is the same length, but entirely different. In the first version this song was unconvincingly weak, in the new version, much better, cleaner. Pro Radii is the same in this one but here is the rest of the info on lengths: 1. LCC - 7:46 (same time, but other version than fake 1) 2. Ipacial section - 11:14 3. Pro Radii - 8:41 (same version as fake 1) 4. Augmatic disport : 10:24 5. lera - 3:37 6. Fermium - 6:13 7. the trees - 3:34 8. Sublimit - 12:20 damn, this might mess up every theory leading up to this point. I think the programming isnt as good as fake 1, but the production is MUCH better... let the debates begin |
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yay... 3 new Ae albums! Haven't heard any yet :( Can't wait to get home now! |
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addendum: fake 1 track 1 and fake 2 track 1 are NEARLY the same, but somehow the ridiculous fake 2... gone is the battle between 2 different songs, cheapo melodies, and uncalculated breaks, at 3:17s the new version of this track ties it all together. |
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yeah im now convinced these are all bullshit fakes. |
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wtf |
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so in conlusion fake 2 is a 'mastered' version of fake 1??? |
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cx- I've been reading your vacillating antics for the past 2 days now. I suggest you find the version I am referring to. I'm in need of your praises about how good the "newest new new autechre" is... |
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what's the policy on links here at xltronic? |
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you have to write the link in backwards code. |
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ha! ok- well the version i am referring to is at WATMM. thread: autechre - untilted, page 9, post #209. it's simply amazing. |
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i guarantee the nature of this thread will be different when I wake up tomorrow morning. shit. I am soooooooo happy now. cx, you'll be coming back around, I am certain |
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I am floored. I can't believe I even wasted my time on that other version. This is devastating and AE at its finest. |
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um gl0tch i hate to break it to you, but this is the same version i downloaded last night.. i downloaded lcc and its the exact same mp3 actually, same tags and everything. anyway here's what you should do now that you have the real tracks that we've all been talking about in this thread. 1. play 20 seconds 'bine' from confield 2. play 20 seconds of 'fermium' from the leak. RIGHT after eachother. trust me, you will laugh and go "hhahe." |
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wait wtf.. the first one lcc was alike, but iera was not alike. im now downloading all of the tracks gimme a minute. |
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You idiot. 1) Listen to the other tracks, they're different (and they sound fake to me). 2) A friend of mine who knows someone who works for Warp told me it's real. So I guess it's really real. (I know this kind of sounded like a joke but I was serious. I'll have CoNfIrMaTiOn today I guess.) |
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emm guys... |
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ok i listened to all of them, scanned through at least. and they are also fakes. for one, they have mixed lcc and pro radii in from the other release? second, iera sounds a little cheesy. im done downloading fakes anyway.. |
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darius again, why do you have to call me an idiot? boohoo i downloaded only the first song and it was the same, shame on me for being so stupid.. you people. |
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kokoon = tasken/taskis? OMFG HEY ITS WAR ON IRC |
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Dude, don't take it so personally. Try not to let all your credability run on whether or not you can hear an Æ fake or not, chose the wrong answer, then change your mind. There really isn't much room in this world for flip-floppers. |
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Kay. This sample is a bit more convincing. The melodies are closer, the sounds are a lot closer, and the granular work is present. The oscilation rates are set in a similar automated lfo pattern that autechre is so brilliant at. Not 100% about this, but if I were to choose between the two, this would be it. If they are doing a leak smear campagne, then that makes me happy. More clones = more love. |
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i wonder how this will all turn out in the end... |
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i'm no tasken/taskis |
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Is cx Autechre? Leaking the thing himself and then creating a hype and causing mass hysteria? Will dozens of fakes leak so that even Tolstoyed will rush out and buy the album when it actually comes out, to see what it really sounds like? |
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