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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 22:52 [#02603238]
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yeah its great
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 22:53 [#02603239]
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I watch old episodes of time team and they sometimes refer to the norse sagas
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 22:53 [#02603240]
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Alot of the places on the Wirral have Viking names
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-11 22:55 [#02603241]
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sweet when's the trial
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 22:57 [#02603243]
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yeah talk about a patronising hollow gesture, they are getting the foot in the door before footage of them doing a blackface in an old episode of law and order or something leaks
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-11 23:05 [#02603244]
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it's beautiful how the nice rich liberals only know to address systemic racism by public displays of abject white guilt. insult to injury.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-11 23:12 [#02603247]
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it reminds me of a management strategy I read about, when things go off the rails you take leadership by saying "OK, I take full responsibility, now let's move on" and it means nothing, you certainly pay no penalty, in fact it's a power move
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:14 [#02603248]
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Im glad im not hollywood famous, it sort of warps your sense of self importance, thinking that they have within themselves to absolve society of its sins, its really weird and grotesque. Ultimately it just a pre-emptive move to hedge off any threats to the careers im guessing
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:15 [#02603250]
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Steve that Sunn O song is freaking me out, its making me think of a shaman groping around in a sheeps entrails during a solar eclipse lo
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:16 [#02603251]
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great PR, going for that righteous indignation dollar!
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-11 23:29 [#02603255]
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think of how awful the world was when it was one way tv and radio and movies and we couldn't get on twitter and tell celebrities that they have big butts and their butts stink and they like to marry their own butts
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:32 [#02603256]
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I imagine its there PR agent or assistant, whoever manages their account who usually gets the brunt of it.
I cant imagine Stanley Tucci stinking around to watch people call him a baldly headed bastard!
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-11 23:48 [#02603257]
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there's something weird about twitter that draws a lot of actual celebs into posting. glinner for example is 100% him, no pr agent would post what he does, jk rowling, ice t, ice cube, lots of them on there. reality stars too. trump? don't ask
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-11 23:51 [#02603258]
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I sort of admire their persistence, it reminds me of cnut trying to hold back the tide of current public opinion on certain issues. Thinking of Graham Linehan and JK Rowling. I dont think its worth the psychic toll it will take on them
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-12 00:15 [#02603259]
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I'll have to read exactly what they said cos it might seem like I condone what they said without knowing exactly what it was
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-12 00:52 [#02603260]
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i remember reading about glinner's friends and family being quite worried about his twitter rage addiction.
reminded me of the stories of people whose relatives got their brain eaten away by fox news leaving only bitterness and gloom.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2020-06-13 00:28 [#02603303]
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https://twitter.com/russthom75/status/1271490486877016064
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 00:33 [#02603304]
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cnut trying to hold back the tide of current public opinion on certain issues
like wat
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 00:40 [#02603305]
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king cnut
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 00:43 [#02603306]
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and which issues
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 00:47 [#02603307]
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something about transgender issues with seemed to piss of a large amount of people, im not sure if they were trying to say they dont consider transwomen actual women, or if they were talking purely about the biological aspect of it all, it seemed a bit nebulous really.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 00:52 [#02603308]
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funny thing is i almost jokingly asked if it was that
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 01:00 [#02603310]
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I went on a harry potter forum out of curiosity after it happened and they were all saying "oh I cant read any of the books now, this as ruined it, blah blah". If I thought like that they wouldn't be much media i could consume, Imagine your enjoyment of listening to the fall was dependent on Mark E Smith being a nice person.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 01:49 [#02603312]
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i remember finding out recently that john kricfalusi -- creator of ren and stimpy -- got ensnared in meetoo, for banging some 18yo's when he was 35. plus being manipulative and controlling while it lasted. it rather upset me: i remember when ren and stimpy first hit the air. it was so vile and unlike anything nickelodeon had ever had the stones to broadcast before, and i loved it immediately. i have lost count of the number of spontaneous occurrences of the log song; someone starts singing it and everyone joins in
so, like, i dunno, am i supposed to hate the guy now? not like ren and stimpy?
i think it's reasonable to separate the artist from the art, in this case. he did some creepy shit, and that is dad-grade "very disappointing." but, when i'm watching ren and stimpy, i am not really aware of any of that. i feel like it is perfectly acceptable to enjoy that bubble. as long as your enjoyment is not enabling more bad behavior, i don't think it should carry any guilt
meanwhile -- harry potter books have always been kind of disneyland, squeaky-clean nonsense. who else do you expect to be behind the helm, but some white person with conservative views? yet, again, the books can be a bubble you can enjoy without getting into all the ugly wiring behind the panels
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 01:53 [#02603313]
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Ren & Stimpy is great. Yeah some stuff really taints the art like when you find out someone is a murdered or serial nonce, but most of the problems are because people are multifaceted and prone to change I guess.
Yeah thing with JK Rowling I think she would identify as left of centre classically liberal, but things have accelerated that quickly, she does indeed look a bit conservative in her views now
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 01:56 [#02603314]
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it's difficult to even talk about without sounding like a piece of shit. quite frankly, my initial reaction was, "try finding someone who launched their own animation studio that isn't a manipulative, controlling, bipolar bastard" but then it sounds like i'm justifying his excesses
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 01:57 [#02603315]
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the difference between a liberal and conservative is a few million pounds in the bank
no way in hell has no one made this joke before now
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 02:14 [#02603320]
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yeah reminded me of when Radiohead where asked to boycott Israel cos of the ongoing occupation of the westbank, but they went there anyway.
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-13 03:09 [#02603324]
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black and white thinking is the cause of a lot of problems. we need fuzzy logic. cancel 0.61279543
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-13 03:43 [#02603326]
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They're still annexing the West Bank.
Someone should show Radiohead this
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-13 04:06 [#02603327]
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jesus man this is trash, get a grip 25% of those killed by the police are black proportion of black people in US population: 13.5%
so, yes, his stats show that black people are being disproportionately killed by police and that he is an intellectually dishonest racist :)
i'm trying to respect your intelligence here okay
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2020-06-13 13:16 [#02603344]
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I just shared it. I didn’t comment on it.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-13 13:30 [#02603346]
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oh shut up
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2020-06-13 15:49 [#02603347]
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Seeing as you've asked so nicely for my opinion on the video link I posted...
His data is based on crimes commited. Not on percentage of population.
I don't understand this idea that crime should be equal to proportion of population. If Blacks commited no crime it wouldn't be racist for them to have no proportional representation in jails?
Anyway, besides all this, I found the protester that shouted there are 'no good cops' to be funny, as it ignores the 11% of Black cops whose lives obviously don't matter to him and the BLM campainers that want to defund the Police.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 16:20 [#02603348]
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Ive just been arguing with some conservatives on twitter, totally fruitless isnt it. The were saying stuff like prove systemic racism exists in the police. You link them some articles and a Harvard study with empirical evidence and then they just resort to ad hominem attacks.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-13 16:23 [#02603349]
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LAZY_TITLE
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-13 18:06 [#02603350]
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dead prez - cop shot
from 2000 but it could easily be 2020
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-13 19:45 [#02603352]
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then you agree with his bullshit, at least some honesty thank you
crime rate is entirely irrelevant.
anyway, let's look at the fucking paper https://www.nber.org/papers/w22399.pdf (the paper is from 2016. it's not "new".)
right there in the abstract: "On non-lethal uses of force, blacks and Hispanics are more than fifty percent more likely to experience some form of force in interactions with police."
(weird that the guy in the video doesn't mention that.)
followed by: "On the most extreme use of force–officer-involved shootings–we find no racial differences in either the raw data or when contextual factors are taken into account."
i don't even have to get into his methodology: this isn't saying anything about who is getting killed. this is about who is getting shot. george floyd wasn't shot. eric garner wasn't shot.
also "no racial differences" doesn't mean "more whites are getting shot".
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"no good cops" is a systemic notion, not a value judgement aimed at any particular individual, which i understand must be hard for you to process.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2020-06-13 20:04 [#02603353]
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I didn't say I agree with? I just shared it.
As I said, I don't believe in proportionate representation. Why would there be an equal share of crime by race with equal Policing of it?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-13 20:06 [#02603354]
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there is no equal policing of it you sophist kek bitch
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2020-06-13 21:48 [#02603355]
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Another personal dig from zilty's fluffy bunny of love?
Why must you be so beastly to me?
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-13 21:59 [#02603356]
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cunt
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-14 00:47 [#02603368]
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I for one am shocked that our friend Cliff Glitchard is subject to this sort of abuse and even dehumanisation, and for what? For trying to have a fair minded discussion in good faith, in a relevant thread?
Unbelievable. Liberals are the real Racists.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2020-06-14 03:25 [#02603382]
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Atalanta's police chief steps down after the death of a DUI suspect, that allegedly resisted arrest after failing a breathalyser, killed by a police officer for allegedly stealing a police taser and running away.
This would never have happened under Socialism.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-14 04:11 [#02603392]
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Under socialism the police murder victim wouldn't have been able to afford alcohol or a car, and would have starved to death instead of stealing a taser. That's bad!
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