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offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 18:09 [#02602701]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



I feel like sponsoring a kid in africa would be better than
giving money to the looters in usa. Anyone know a decent
charity for this sort of thing? Not oxfam


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 18:36 [#02602702]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker



Its quite a complex situation


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 20:26 [#02602704]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to Tony Danza: #02602651



no. dont worry im on ur page about dodgy cops.


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 20:32 [#02602705]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular



actually i was a bit confused tho. about the vid...

'Jay McMichaelCNN
@JayMcMichaelCNN
·
May 30
Apology accepted. Please confirm information next time
before doing this again. I asked you if you were protesting
and your response was “yes”. Your response led me to
believe you were a protestor not a journalist. I was
transparent about my job there.'

so the guy that came out of that van was actually cnn? im
actually confused


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 20:43 [#02602706]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02602699



conspiracy theories have a purpose - they usually are trying
to say something like 'the world is flat and if they are
lying to you about this....? they are lying to you about the
whole thing...which means we have to transcend this corrupt
system'

if free america really was stitched up by jewish globalists
then it means the current system is TOTALLY rotten.
impossible to work with. has to be abandoned. and therefor
we need to completely overcome and erase this system with a
drastic alternative. this is really routine. try and think
of a cult or a violent cranky political sect that hasnt said
this stuff


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:01 [#02602707]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker



The one thing ive noticed in the world of conspiracy is they
are sort of shifting from soros now to bill gates, well
obviously cos Soros is an old duffer and probably sucking on
a worthers original


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:11 [#02602708]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker



LAZY_TITLE

what we need right now


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:11 [#02602709]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker | Followup to Hyperflake: #02602707



not that im saying Soros isnt a dubious sort of person i
have no idea really, its just surprising to me that someone
who is 89 year old really gives much of a shit about
altering the world but what do i know


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-06-04 21:16 [#02602710]
Points: 12390 Status: Regular | Followup to AMPI MAX: #02602706



i know, i mean, there's very few if any conspiracy theories
that can't be boiled down to the elders of zion. tragic
failure of the imagination but that's the product they're
selling i suppose.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:17 [#02602711]
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alot of them seem to emanate from the extreme right wing as
a distraction why they plunder everything, mental projection
sort of thing


 

offline AMPI MAX from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 21:18 [#02602712]
Points: 10789 Status: Regular | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02602710



that failure of imagination is what makes me think
radicalism is dead. they cant tell new stories. its decaying



 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 21:31 [#02602713]
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That's a very George Monbiot take, have you read Out Of The
Wreckage?

I checked that reporter's twitter, man, those were three of
the most cop-acting reporters I've ever seen.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 21:37 [#02602714]
Points: 3638 Status: Lurker



Here's the story liberalism tells: humans are so cognitively
flawed that we cannot trust them to make their own
decisions; on the other hand, the market is the most
powerful information processing system known(*), therefore
we must not only defer to it but create an overarching
political regime that nurtures, and defers to, the market.

This was Hayek's story and it's been the dominant political
narrative since Thatcher and Reagan took power, accelerating
after the fall of the Soviet Union. You want to talk about
crusty old stories no one really believes anymore and an
inability to create new ones, look no further than
liberalism.

(* see Mirowski's Hell Is Truth Seen Too Late for more on this)


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:45 [#02602715]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker



corporate duopoly is a phrase i read, i guess around the
world its like choosing if you want to be kicked in the nuts
or punched in the face


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 22:06 [#02602716]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



Moderation was the theme of Aristotle’s ethics. I know
he’s out of date in terms of philosophy and ‘listen to
this guy, his every word and treat it as gospel’ isn’t
exactly my cup of tea either. Capitalism in moderation is
not so bad. It’s the extremists in Tory party that
worship,the market instead of reading edmund burke. The tory
party is shit basically.

I bet capitalism will die out in the next 200 years, thanks
to religious innovations, new technology, scientific
ingenuity etc. There’s no need to be communist. Just look
after your neighbours etc


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:23 [#02602717]
Points: 3638 Status: Lurker | Followup to umbroman3: #02602716



> I bet capitalism will die out in the next 200 years,
thanks to religious innovations, new technology, scientific
ingenuity etc.

Well yeah this is what Marx thought, minus religious
innovations (what does that even mean)


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-06-04 22:25 [#02602718]
Points: 12390 Status: Regular



read some wertkritik ampi >:)

no but more seriously moishe postone might interest you
https://libcom.org/library/anti-semitism-national-socialism
-moishe-postone


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:25 [#02602719]
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Come to think of it though Marx saw a problem in the divorce
of the political from the civic that paralleled the split
between the religious and the secular - an ideal world where
people have rights, versus the shit everyday world of the
marketplace where we all exploit one another as commodities.
That could be viewed as religious innovation maybe.


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-06-04 22:30 [#02602720]
Points: 12390 Status: Regular



i think capitalism might be able to sustain itself in a
perpetual cycle of collapse and recovery. a nice social
liberal democracy that would give me basic income for free
would be doomed, but i wouldn't mind so much as long as it
outlives me.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:38 [#02602721]
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I wonder if a guaranteed income could work as a synthetic
value-in-motion to sustain things. Keep the ball in play as
profit margins approach an asymptote of zero and only
corporations like Amazon or larger can operate on economies
of scale.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 22:40 [#02602722]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



I mean when Israel appoints a King. According to the old
testament prophecies he will abolish hunger and war.
Communism is like Judaism in a way but watered down for a
non Jewish audience. Even if you don’t believe in God
there’s people who follow the ancient Jewish laws. One of
those laws says appoint a king. A Jewish king of Israel is
inevitable whether you believe in God or not. I try not to
cling to any ideology. Communism causes starvation, fascism
causes nasty wars. One day we’ll all understand each
other.


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:52 [#02602723]
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You should read Marx, a nice Jewish boy from two rabbinic
families.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 22:53 [#02602724]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



Do you believe there will be a Jewish king?


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:57 [#02602725]
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anything is possible but I think fully automated luxury
communism is far more likely, if we don't nuke or poison
ourselves


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:01 [#02602726]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



I guess the nightmare scenario is that God isn’t real, we
all nuke each other to dust, and Earth begins to look like
Mars.

The super happy ending would be Jewish king, abolish all war
and hunger, make the barren land habitable, followed by deep
space travel and the conquering of death itself.

What would your super happy ending be? Robot slaves?


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 23:05 [#02602727]
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My happy ending is basically yours minus the creepy
obsession with Jews.


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:05 [#02602728]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



Lol


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:07 [#02602729]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



Youre right tho i did destroy myself via conspiracy theories
etc


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:08 [#02602730]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



I wouldnt want anyone to follow in my footsteps


 

offline umbroman3 from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:22 [#02602731]
Points: 6123 Status: Lurker



You’ve hit the nail on the head, anti semites don’t get
to experience the world to come. They go to a place called
sheol instead, a nasty place. Sleep is 1/60th of death.
I’ve said it before but I get locked in my dreams and get
touched and poked and stuff. The other night literally was a
grim reaper type of guy scaring the shit out of me.


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-04 23:43 [#02602732]
Points: 6384 Status: Lurker



dreams vs reality


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-05 00:45 [#02602733]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



i'd like to retire to the ghost in the shell universe


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-05 01:28 [#02602734]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



LAZY_TITLE ~ alright which one of you is this


 

offline dariusgriffin from cool on 2020-06-05 02:37 [#02602736]
Points: 12390 Status: Regular



anyway did you guys hear about david dees dying


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-05 03:03 [#02602737]
Points: 6384 Status: Lurker



i had never heard of him until now but this:

A mother with robot legs and a gas mask offering a pie
(from which double-helixes float upwards) to her son (the
top of whose head has been replaced with an apple labeled
"GMO") and daughter (whose head is a potato for some
reason), with chemtrails visible through a large
window?[4]


...made me laugh quite hard, he sounds loopy


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-05 03:09 [#02602738]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker



LAZY_TITLE

one of the most despicably, evil things ive seen in my life
this


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-05 03:10 [#02602739]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker | Followup to dariusgriffin: #02602736



The guy who did the really trumpster bizarre
photoshop/cartoon things ?


 

offline belb from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-05 03:11 [#02602740]
Points: 6384 Status: Lurker



holy shit here's the motherlode


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-05 03:28 [#02602742]
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the illuminati finally got his ass


 

offline Tony Danza from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-05 03:30 [#02602743]
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I keep thinking of rick deckard's boss telling him if you're
not cop you're little people. that's all of us


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-05 03:36 [#02602745]
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Yeah, its quite astounding to me to see that many people
with a lack of empathy, someone said on twitter they all
abuse steroids


 

offline jtalton from Onomichi (Japan) on 2020-06-05 11:41 [#02602751]
Points: 442 Status: Regular



“that failure of imagination is what makes me think
radicalism is dead. they cant tell new stories. its decaying


What do you mean by this? When was radicalism alive in your
opinion? And what do you think made the decay of
imagination?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-05 16:59 [#02602752]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



twitter thred ~ some lawyer cataloging all the video clips
of police brutality in recent days


 

offline RussellDust on 2020-06-05 20:21 [#02602753]
Points: 16053 Status: Lurker



A united world


 

offline mohamed from the turtle business on 2020-06-05 20:57 [#02602754]
Points: 31145 Status: Regular | Show recordbag



i shared my story briefly and i earned 3 joints, thats all i
can think about unity atmo

and thats part of the new, the world i left before my second
hightime is ten times shitter


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-06 01:48 [#02602761]
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don't let the door hit your ass on the way out


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-06 01:51 [#02602762]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



you know what's even more fucked up? i thought this whole
incident was about an entirely different video clip i saw of
cops pushing an old man over, and it was even worse than
this


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-06 02:28 [#02602765]
Points: 25264 Status: Regular



LAZY_TITLE very thoughtful and on the mark.

too bad much of america's reaction to this sort of article
will be akin to barbie saying "math is hard"


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-06 03:44 [#02602769]
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yeah the one with the cane at the bus stop?

the pavement head crack one was just sickening, i had a
physiological reaction to that.


 

offline Hyperflake from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-06 03:45 [#02602770]
Points: 31006 Status: Lurker



Sorry you have to live in a judge dredd style police state,
it seems like you might have an easier time reasoning with
criminals than the police in that video


 


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