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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 18:09 [#02602701]
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I feel like sponsoring a kid in africa would be better than giving money to the looters in usa. Anyone know a decent charity for this sort of thing? Not oxfam
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 18:36 [#02602702]
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Its quite a complex situation
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 20:26 [#02602704]
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no. dont worry im on ur page about dodgy cops.
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 20:32 [#02602705]
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actually i was a bit confused tho. about the vid...
'Jay McMichaelCNN @JayMcMichaelCNN · May 30 Apology accepted. Please confirm information next time before doing this again. I asked you if you were protesting and your response was “yes”. Your response led me to believe you were a protestor not a journalist. I was transparent about my job there.'
so the guy that came out of that van was actually cnn? im actually confused
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 20:43 [#02602706]
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conspiracy theories have a purpose - they usually are trying to say something like 'the world is flat and if they are lying to you about this....? they are lying to you about the whole thing...which means we have to transcend this corrupt system'
if free america really was stitched up by jewish globalists then it means the current system is TOTALLY rotten. impossible to work with. has to be abandoned. and therefor we need to completely overcome and erase this system with a drastic alternative. this is really routine. try and think of a cult or a violent cranky political sect that hasnt said this stuff
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:01 [#02602707]
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The one thing ive noticed in the world of conspiracy is they are sort of shifting from soros now to bill gates, well obviously cos Soros is an old duffer and probably sucking on a worthers original
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:11 [#02602708]
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LAZY_TITLE
what we need right now
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:11 [#02602709]
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not that im saying Soros isnt a dubious sort of person i have no idea really, its just surprising to me that someone who is 89 year old really gives much of a shit about altering the world but what do i know
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-04 21:16 [#02602710]
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i know, i mean, there's very few if any conspiracy theories that can't be boiled down to the elders of zion. tragic failure of the imagination but that's the product they're selling i suppose.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:17 [#02602711]
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alot of them seem to emanate from the extreme right wing as a distraction why they plunder everything, mental projection sort of thing
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 21:18 [#02602712]
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that failure of imagination is what makes me think radicalism is dead. they cant tell new stories. its decaying
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 21:31 [#02602713]
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That's a very George Monbiot take, have you read Out Of The Wreckage?
I checked that reporter's twitter, man, those were three of the most cop-acting reporters I've ever seen.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 21:37 [#02602714]
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Here's the story liberalism tells: humans are so cognitively flawed that we cannot trust them to make their own decisions; on the other hand, the market is the most powerful information processing system known(*), therefore we must not only defer to it but create an overarching political regime that nurtures, and defers to, the market.
This was Hayek's story and it's been the dominant political narrative since Thatcher and Reagan took power, accelerating after the fall of the Soviet Union. You want to talk about crusty old stories no one really believes anymore and an inability to create new ones, look no further than liberalism.
(* see Mirowski's Hell Is Truth Seen Too Late for more on this)
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-04 21:45 [#02602715]
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corporate duopoly is a phrase i read, i guess around the world its like choosing if you want to be kicked in the nuts or punched in the face
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 22:06 [#02602716]
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Moderation was the theme of Aristotle’s ethics. I know he’s out of date in terms of philosophy and ‘listen to this guy, his every word and treat it as gospel’ isn’t exactly my cup of tea either. Capitalism in moderation is not so bad. It’s the extremists in Tory party that worship,the market instead of reading edmund burke. The tory party is shit basically.
I bet capitalism will die out in the next 200 years, thanks to religious innovations, new technology, scientific ingenuity etc. There’s no need to be communist. Just look after your neighbours etc
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:23 [#02602717]
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> I bet capitalism will die out in the next 200 years, thanks to religious innovations, new technology, scientific ingenuity etc.
Well yeah this is what Marx thought, minus religious innovations (what does that even mean)
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-04 22:25 [#02602718]
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read some wertkritik ampi >:)
no but more seriously moishe postone might interest you https://libcom.org/library/anti-semitism-national-socialism -moishe-postone
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:25 [#02602719]
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Come to think of it though Marx saw a problem in the divorce of the political from the civic that paralleled the split between the religious and the secular - an ideal world where people have rights, versus the shit everyday world of the marketplace where we all exploit one another as commodities. That could be viewed as religious innovation maybe.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-04 22:30 [#02602720]
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i think capitalism might be able to sustain itself in a perpetual cycle of collapse and recovery. a nice social liberal democracy that would give me basic income for free would be doomed, but i wouldn't mind so much as long as it outlives me.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:38 [#02602721]
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I wonder if a guaranteed income could work as a synthetic value-in-motion to sustain things. Keep the ball in play as profit margins approach an asymptote of zero and only corporations like Amazon or larger can operate on economies of scale.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 22:40 [#02602722]
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I mean when Israel appoints a King. According to the old testament prophecies he will abolish hunger and war. Communism is like Judaism in a way but watered down for a non Jewish audience. Even if you don’t believe in God there’s people who follow the ancient Jewish laws. One of those laws says appoint a king. A Jewish king of Israel is inevitable whether you believe in God or not. I try not to cling to any ideology. Communism causes starvation, fascism causes nasty wars. One day we’ll all understand each other.
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:52 [#02602723]
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You should read Marx, a nice Jewish boy from two rabbinic families.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 22:53 [#02602724]
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Do you believe there will be a Jewish king?
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 22:57 [#02602725]
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anything is possible but I think fully automated luxury communism is far more likely, if we don't nuke or poison ourselves
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:01 [#02602726]
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I guess the nightmare scenario is that God isn’t real, we all nuke each other to dust, and Earth begins to look like Mars.
The super happy ending would be Jewish king, abolish all war and hunger, make the barren land habitable, followed by deep space travel and the conquering of death itself.
What would your super happy ending be? Robot slaves?
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-04 23:05 [#02602727]
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My happy ending is basically yours minus the creepy obsession with Jews.
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:05 [#02602728]
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Lol
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:07 [#02602729]
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Youre right tho i did destroy myself via conspiracy theories etc
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:08 [#02602730]
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I wouldnt want anyone to follow in my footsteps
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umbroman3
from United Kingdom on 2020-06-04 23:22 [#02602731]
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You’ve hit the nail on the head, anti semites don’t get to experience the world to come. They go to a place called sheol instead, a nasty place. Sleep is 1/60th of death. I’ve said it before but I get locked in my dreams and get touched and poked and stuff. The other night literally was a grim reaper type of guy scaring the shit out of me.
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-04 23:43 [#02602732]
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dreams vs reality
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-05 00:45 [#02602733]
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i'd like to retire to the ghost in the shell universe
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-05 01:28 [#02602734]
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LAZY_TITLE ~ alright which one of you is this
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2020-06-05 02:37 [#02602736]
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anyway did you guys hear about david dees dying
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-05 03:03 [#02602737]
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i had never heard of him until now but this:
A mother with robot legs and a gas mask offering a pie (from which double-helixes float upwards) to her son (the top of whose head has been replaced with an apple labeled "GMO") and daughter (whose head is a potato for some reason), with chemtrails visible through a large window?[4]
...made me laugh quite hard, he sounds loopy
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-05 03:09 [#02602738]
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LAZY_TITLE
one of the most despicably, evil things ive seen in my life this
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-05 03:10 [#02602739]
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The guy who did the really trumpster bizarre photoshop/cartoon things ?
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2020-06-05 03:11 [#02602740]
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holy shit here's the motherlode
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-05 03:28 [#02602742]
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the illuminati finally got his ass
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Tony Danza
from NAFO Suicide Hotline on 2020-06-05 03:30 [#02602743]
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I keep thinking of rick deckard's boss telling him if you're not cop you're little people. that's all of us
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-05 03:36 [#02602745]
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Yeah, its quite astounding to me to see that many people with a lack of empathy, someone said on twitter they all abuse steroids
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jtalton
from Onomichi (Japan) on 2020-06-05 11:41 [#02602751]
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“that failure of imagination is what makes me think radicalism is dead. they cant tell new stories. its decaying “
What do you mean by this? When was radicalism alive in your opinion? And what do you think made the decay of imagination?
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-05 16:59 [#02602752]
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twitter thred ~ some lawyer cataloging all the video clips of police brutality in recent days
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RussellDust
on 2020-06-05 20:21 [#02602753]
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A united world
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mohamed
from the turtle business on 2020-06-05 20:57 [#02602754]
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i shared my story briefly and i earned 3 joints, thats all i can think about unity atmo
and thats part of the new, the world i left before my second hightime is ten times shitter
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-06 01:48 [#02602761]
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don't let the door hit your ass on the way out
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-06 01:51 [#02602762]
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you know what's even more fucked up? i thought this whole incident was about an entirely different video clip i saw of cops pushing an old man over, and it was even worse than this
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2020-06-06 02:28 [#02602765]
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LAZY_TITLE very thoughtful and on the mark.
too bad much of america's reaction to this sort of article will be akin to barbie saying "math is hard"
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-06 03:44 [#02602769]
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yeah the one with the cane at the bus stop?
the pavement head crack one was just sickening, i had a physiological reaction to that.
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Hyperflake
from Wirral (United Kingdom) on 2020-06-06 03:45 [#02602770]
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Sorry you have to live in a judge dredd style police state, it seems like you might have an easier time reasoning with criminals than the police in that video
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