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retape
from http://retape.net (Norway) on 2013-06-18 12:39 [#02458662]
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my vinyl arrived today (norway)
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2013-06-18 22:00 [#02458692]
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woopie it's there!..now I need some time to listen to it
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obara
from Utrecht on 2013-06-20 09:53 [#02458773]
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remember to put the needle on run-out and press 'reverse'
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WooferAttack
from Milano (Italy) on 2013-06-20 23:27 [#02458803]
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third listen and now i can say this is a wonderful album
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2013-06-21 02:48 [#02458816]
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Bit shit, to be honest. Obvious wishy washy faff for BoC fannies and gays.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-21 18:03 [#02458830]
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Isn't all electronic music (Crystal Method/Prodigy/Chemical Brothers rightly excepted) "for fannies and gays" though? That's nothing new. It's not like SAW2 is aimed at 'roid abusing meatheads.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2013-06-21 18:10 [#02458831]
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This album is still growing on me and I'm already past the loving it stage.
Sure I'll hit the bong for Exai and discover new facets of how intricate it is, but I find myself enjoying TH under new circumstances.
At home, morning and night, long walks, car rides, transit, sitting on a bench watching the worlds people and things go by.
It's a masterpiece. I can hear a hint of all their works amalgamated into it.
I did have high expectations for it, though as a BOC fan all you could really ask for is more of that style. They paved their career on this sound and I wouldn't have it any other way.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-21 23:21 [#02458836]
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I am such a Gay Fanny, and that's exactly why this is right up my alley
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2013-06-23 02:05 [#02458861]
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That's a bit racist? Roidy meatheads have feelings too.
Shiny metal rods - for a start - was all about bench pressing.
I'm just glad Aphex doesn't discriminate and probably has loads of body builder friends.
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Geoffrey Mills
on 2013-06-23 03:17 [#02458863]
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it's fucking CUNTy rubbish. if i am allowed to say it's shit, which it is, it's SHIT.
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Geoffrey Mills
on 2013-06-23 03:17 [#02458864]
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thanks for the illegal link ceri, you saved me 20 notes.
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-crazone
from smashing acid over and over on 2013-06-23 13:50 [#02458875]
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It's weird, but I like it, love it actually, but sometimes it's boring too..am I the only one who has this whilst listening?
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sneakattack
on 2013-06-23 15:50 [#02458878]
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same here; then again, lots of BoC albums have filler tracks; it's just that they used to be a little quirkier. I think the only really jarring thing is that the sound is not really the old signature sound, but I definitely get the old brooding vibe in "reach for the dead" and "new seeds" which I have from, say, "beach at redpoint".. I really enjoy those two tracks at least and am happy with the album from those alone..
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belb
from mmmmmmhhhhzzzz!!! on 2013-06-23 17:42 [#02458879]
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there's plenty of buried vocals and weirdness in there, i'd consider it a headphone album unless you've got a really sweet speaker setup. not necessarily a bad thing. it sounds like BoC but why the fuck shouldn't it? they've nothing to prove, they're just doing what they do. grown on me far more than i was expecting it to
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-23 20:52 [#02458885]
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Trying not to
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larn
from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-23 20:53 [#02458886]
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Over play it
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-26 13:08 [#02459019]
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On the face of it, using 'racist' as a synonym of bigot, in cases where it is nothing to do with race, seems a minor and stylistic thing.
The reason I object so strongly to it, is that it is yet another step away from the necessary, but sadly lacking, distinction that should be made between ethnicity, country of birth, culture and religion. These are four separate traits. Lumping them together under one banner doesn't just make for a less rich language: It denies us the (wholly legitimate) criticism of cultures and religions, for fear of being branded a racist. Even most people too stupid to grasp this distinction tend to understand the broad concept that "racism is bad, m'kay?" and are all too happy to trot out cries of "racist!" when it's wildly inappropriate and the matter being discussed has nothing to do with race. [I appreciate that Cliff's comment was made in jest]
In case that is not clear, here's a quick lesson:
The general principle we are talking about is that it is okay to criticise people for their choices. It is not cool to criticise people for things they cannot help.
So, it is absolutely fine to say, "Beheading people has no place in a civilised society." This is a criticism of a cultural behaviour that we believe to be wrong.
It is also fine to say, "Most people who perform beheadings claim to be members of religious group X." (Provided that it's true). Again, this is a criticism of a choice.
It is also fine to say, "Most people of religious group X come from ethnic group Y."
It is also fine to say, "Ethnic group Y exhibit this particular physiological trait." (Again, provided that it's true).
It is not okay to say, "Because person Z, comes from from ethnic group Y, they behead people." Person Z may well belong to ethnic group Y and may well behead people. They may even behead people because they belong to a particular religion. It does not follow that they behead people because they belong to ethnic group Y.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-26 15:09 [#02459025]
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In summary: The Muslims.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-26 15:27 [#02459026]
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Test: Are "The Muslims" a race?
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-26 16:15 [#02459027]
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Mixed Race?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-26 16:23 [#02459028]
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That's a laugh too. As if there is a single human alive who isn't "mixed race".
Back on topic: Tomorrow's Harvest doesn't sound good in the car when driving at high speeds. Cranking it up loud to drown out the road/wind/engine noise doesn't work. It's not a good album to "play loud".
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-26 16:36 [#02459029]
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Back off topic: So there's no such thing as Race as we're all Mixed Race, then.
Back on topic: No, wait.
Back off topic.
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-06-28 13:56 [#02459102]
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Exactly yo.
That deliberate tactic of conflation and confusion gets used loads to silence Israel critics too, e.g.:
A: "I disagree with Israel's foreign policy regarding Palestine:
B: "omg ur antisemitic nazi racist lollll"
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AMPI MAX
from United Kingdom on 2013-06-28 14:45 [#02459106]
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ceri is a juggalo
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melack
from barcielwave on 2013-06-28 19:06 [#02459115]
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not received yet... :( fuck preorder / never again
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debaser
on 2013-06-28 21:30 [#02459118]
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Same :'''( ... Why never again though, does this happen more often with pre orders?
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debaser
on 2013-06-28 21:31 [#02459119]
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i used to be a juggalo. Happy days
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2013-06-29 02:57 [#02459121]
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Beheading is just bodyist. Surely the heart is most important. I once read about a headless chicken that lived a long life after beheading.
Maybe a hot chick like Kate Upton can still show her tits for money without a head?
No-one gives a fuck about what she thinks or says anyway.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-29 12:37 [#02459132]
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Yes, that is a perfect example of it.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2013-07-08 23:29 [#02459632]
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well, i never understood the point on preorders... only if they are a limited run.. but with regular albums, why buying them in advance?
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-07-11 08:13 [#02459752]
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By pre-ordering you can get charged P&P on orders over £50. Normally in Warpmart, orders over £50 would have free P&P, but not if they are pre-orders. So you end up paying more, in order to be guaranteed a copy on release day.
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Combo
from Sex on 2013-07-11 11:58 [#02459754]
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Isn't there always a limited run for every album? The question is: how many?
I think pre-orders are useful for labels to estimate how many records they will sell, so how many they should produce.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-07-11 14:40 [#02459759]
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Elvis' Christmas Album has been produced since 1967. They've been pressing 500,000 copies a day, since the moment they started pressing the album, and it is in Elvis' eternal contract that the album continues to be pressed, forever. ...Or at least the album will be pressed until vinyl is no longer possible, due to the world running out of plastic making ability.
So yes, all albums are limited runs, except for Elvis' Christmas Album, which intends to be an infinite run, as far as is possible. The NWO will probably setup a pressing plant to be self-sustaining, to continue pressing the album even after some nuclear holocaust or human extinction.
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Combo
from Sex on 2013-07-11 14:50 [#02459761]
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Your comment was a great read. But its content doesn't seem so true, according to internetz.
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RussellDust
on 2013-07-11 16:18 [#02459762]
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Hee hee
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shawnphase
from baltimore (United States) on 2013-07-12 04:17 [#02459779]
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i dug it, felt like they were like 'ok thers gotta be countrepoint melody/harmony going AT ALL TIMES, AT ALL COSTS' but hey, it made for good songs. listened to it maybe 3-5 times now, on either good phones or good speaker setups, tryin to really savor it. and of course, maybe listening to some other release before it to appreciate it a bit more. ill always dig the stuff they put out.
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Combo
from Sex on 2013-07-12 09:25 [#02459781]
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Jacquart Causeway sounds so lush on vinyl... Too bad this LP has so few impressive melodies.
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Nintendo
from the hague (Netherlands, The) on 2013-07-17 14:42 [#02460011]
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i'm finally in the mood for this. Warming up with u-ziq lunatic harness, and then off to BOC
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EpicMegatrax
from Greatest Hits on 2013-07-31 04:23 [#02460404]
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If you're into 80's vibe, listen to this whilst high. Even without the video, that track makes you feel like you're on coke and sports car-ing to the club in a light blue jacket with huge shoulder pads; fucking AC blasting cuz you're sweaty as fuck.
jnasato's above review of "olivia" drew a remarkably vivid picture in my mind. it's been popping into my head like a catchy tune.
i was in my car today, AC cranked, sweaty, and i thought of it for probably the fourth or fifth time this month. made note to self to dig it up and give it the props it deserves, and here we are.
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jnasato
from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-07-31 10:10 [#02460405]
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Thanks, man. Glad to hear it. If you go to used clothes shops, you can pick up a 1980's baby blue blazer with shoulder pads and white slacks, for like $10. Go get a haircut, slap on some hair gel, get some strawberry car air freshener shit hanging from the rearview mirror, and play Olivia. You pick up any girl, in about 5 seconds after entering your car and pressing play, you will immediately transfer her into a cool time that she never experienced cuz she was too young (unless you're picking up 50 year olds). After that... it's up to you.
If you just look into the distance whilst walking the streets and play Olivia in your head, you might be unstoppable.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2013-08-03 11:27 [#02460458]
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oh, now that i see this topic again, let me make a very serious comment on the album:
finally got it (like a month ago, after 1 copy missed on the postal service)
and gave it some proper listenings,
and i must say its a very good and special album to my ears,
really diferent to other boc's,
like 'a boc album seen from behind' (thats a thought i got).
Every thing is so unclear and dusty,
the distant complex melodies, fighting and alternating with others,
the impressive percussive high-tone work, the clear un-sync'ed arpeggiated synths...
its like that album was made, and then left to rust in a windy desert for 8 years
maybe is not as 'beautiful' as other boc albums, but the ambiances are just amazing, very cinematic, and it sounds like an step beyond the boc sound, totally essential, as the world and the music has changed a lot in 8 years...
another thought i got is that it is a very mature album, because in the precedent albums they set they style, their own language in our minds
(in fact, my feeling on first listenings was like if i already knew those tunes, like i had heard them before)
and in this one they are just playing with that language, with our expectations, following or corrupting it to transmit new ideas, find new ways to build a track, to make a melody appear, a beat fade or whatever
thats why i think its a brilliant album, they know who they are and they dont need to make a 'perfect' album again, they just want to draw a very concret landscape with their personal and unique colors.
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Steinvordhosbn
from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-08-03 13:22 [#02460461]
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Good comment Melack, I like what you're saying.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2013-08-03 14:20 [#02460464]
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thank you D, i like that you like :)
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hedphukkerr
from mathbotton (United States) on 2013-08-12 10:37 [#02460766]
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i totally see what you're saying, and agree.
i keep coming back to it, and this album is just fucking awesome. all killer, no filler. solid as fuck.
maybe the best stuff they've ever made *ducks*
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drill rods
from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-08-15 02:37 [#02460796]
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"following or corrupting it to transmit new ideas"
I still think there is a very strong political theme to this album, I'm a bit frustrated that so few people seem to be talking about it, especially since it sounds like that's what the brothers wanted to happen. I mean, most IDM superstarz just put out albums when they need more cash to pay the rent - no deeper meaning ever intended. But not so with this album.
I think it's more about economics than environmentalism now - especially economic growth and the way society basically requires it in order to survive, despite its long-term impossibility. Hence, collapse. Thus hence the bleak, miserable tunes and soundscapes (and track names).
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RussellDust
on 2013-08-15 12:49 [#02460807]
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"most IDM superstarz just put out albums when they need more cash to pay the rent - no deeper meaning ever intended"
A bit harsh to say the least. :)
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debaser
on 2013-08-15 14:17 [#02460810]
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yeah i got that impression early on as well, its pretty obvious i think. And i'd say that it's the main reason they focused on the US for this one.
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Cliff Glitchard
from DEEP DOWN INSIDE on 2013-08-21 01:54 [#02460917]
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I've tried to like this, but it is total balls.
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melack
from barcielwave on 2013-08-21 10:11 [#02460930]
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abandoned and post-apocalyptic"
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obara
from Utrecht on 2013-10-07 17:49 [#02462474]
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It's a true grower.
I come back to it now and then, listen to those tracks on various devices, in various situations and they always fit or at least don't make me skip them.
It's another classic BOC album. They should release more often, they would own half Canada and all their boards by now if they did. No business sense like RDJ, probably.
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