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           -crazone
             from smashing acid over and over on 2013-06-18 22:00 [#02458692]
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           obara
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           Cliff Glitchard
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Bit shit, to be honest. Obvious wishy washy faff for BoC  fannies and gays. 
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
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Isn't all electronic music (Crystal Method/Prodigy/Chemical  Brothers rightly excepted) "for fannies and gays" though?  That's nothing new. It's not like SAW2 is aimed at 'roid  abusing meatheads. 
 
  
         
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             from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2013-06-21 18:10 [#02458831]
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This album is still growing on me and I'm already past the  loving it stage. 
  Sure I'll hit the bong for Exai and discover new facets of  how intricate it is, but I find myself enjoying TH under new  circumstances. 
  At home, morning and night, long walks, car rides, transit,  sitting on a bench watching the worlds people and things go  by. 
  It's a masterpiece. I can hear a hint of all their works  amalgamated into it.
  I did have high expectations for it, though as a BOC fan all  you could really ask for is more of that style. They paved  their career on this sound and I wouldn't have it any other  way.  
 
  
         
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           Steinvordhosbn
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-21 23:21 [#02458836]
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I am such a Gay Fanny, and that's exactly why this is  right up my alley 
 
  
         
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           Cliff Glitchard
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That's a bit racist? Roidy meatheads have feelings too.
  Shiny metal rods - for a start - was all about bench  pressing.
 
  I'm just glad Aphex doesn't discriminate and probably has  loads of body builder friends.
 
 
 
  
         
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           Geoffrey Mills
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it's fucking CUNTy rubbish. if i am allowed to say it's  shit, which it is, it's SHIT. 
 
  
         
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           Geoffrey Mills
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           -crazone
             from smashing acid over and over on 2013-06-23 13:50 [#02458875]
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 It's weird, but I like it, love it actually, but sometimes  it's boring too..am I the only one who has this whilst  listening? 
 
  
         
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same here; then again, lots of BoC albums have filler  tracks; it's just that they used to be a little quirkier.  I  think the only really jarring thing is that the sound is not  really the old signature sound, but I definitely get the old  brooding vibe in "reach for the dead" and "new seeds" which  I have from, say, "beach at redpoint"..  I really enjoy  those two tracks at least and am happy with the album from  those alone.. 
 
  
         
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           belb
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there's plenty of buried vocals and weirdness in  there, i'd consider it a headphone album unless you've got a  really sweet speaker setup. not necessarily a bad thing. it  sounds like BoC but why the fuck shouldn't  it? they've  nothing to prove, they're just doing what they do. grown on  me far more than i was expecting it to 
 
  
         
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           larn
             from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-23 20:52 [#02458885]
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           larn
             from PLANET E (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-23 20:53 [#02458886]
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-26 13:08 [#02459019]
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On the face of it, using 'racist' as a synonym of bigot, in  cases where it is nothing to do with race, seems a minor and  stylistic thing.
 
  The reason I object so strongly to it, is that it is yet  another step away from the necessary, but sadly lacking,  distinction that should be made between ethnicity, country  of birth, culture and religion. These are four separate  traits. Lumping them together under one banner doesn't just  make for a less rich language: It denies us the (wholly  legitimate) criticism of cultures and religions, for fear of  being branded a racist. Even most people too stupid to grasp  this distinction tend to understand the broad concept that  "racism is bad, m'kay?" and are all too happy to trot out  cries of "racist!" when it's wildly inappropriate and the  matter being discussed has nothing to do with race. [I  appreciate that Cliff's comment was made in jest]
 
  In case that is not clear, here's a quick lesson:
  The general principle we are talking about is that it is  okay to criticise people for their choices. It is not cool  to criticise people for things they cannot help.
 
  So, it is absolutely fine to say, "Beheading people has  no place in a civilised society." This is a criticism of  a cultural behaviour that we believe to be wrong.
 
  It is also fine to say, "Most people who perform  beheadings claim to be members of religious group X."  (Provided that it's true). Again, this is a criticism of a  choice.
 
  It is also fine to say, "Most people of religious group X  come from ethnic group Y."
 
  It is also fine to say, "Ethnic group Y exhibit this  particular physiological trait." (Again, provided that it's  true).
 
  It is not okay to say, "Because person Z, comes from  from ethnic group Y, they behead people." Person Z may well  belong to ethnic group Y and may well behead people. They  may even behead people because they belong to a  particular religion. It does not follow that they  behead people because they belong to ethnic group Y. 
 
  
         
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           Steinvordhosbn
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-26 15:09 [#02459025]
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In summary: The Muslims. 
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-26 15:27 [#02459026]
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Test: Are "The Muslims" a race?  
 
  
         
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           Steinvordhosbn
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-26 16:15 [#02459027]
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Mixed Race?
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
             from Jefferson City (United States) on 2013-06-26 16:23 [#02459028]
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That's a laugh too. As if there is a single human alive who  isn't "mixed race".
 
  Back on topic: Tomorrow's Harvest doesn't sound good in the car when  driving at high speeds. Cranking it up loud to drown out the  road/wind/engine noise doesn't work. It's not a good album  to "play loud".
 
 
 
  
         
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           Steinvordhosbn
             from London (United Kingdom) on 2013-06-26 16:36 [#02459029]
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Back off topic:  So there's no such thing as Race as we're all Mixed Race,  then. 
 
  Back on topic: No, wait.
  Back off topic.
 
  
         
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           drill rods
             from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-06-28 13:56 [#02459102]
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Exactly yo.
  That deliberate tactic of conflation and confusion gets used  loads to silence Israel critics too, e.g.:
 
  A: "I disagree with Israel's foreign policy regarding  Palestine:
 
  B: "omg ur antisemitic nazi racist lollll"
 
 
  
         
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           AMPI MAX
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           melack
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           debaser
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           debaser
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           Cliff Glitchard
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Beheading is just bodyist. Surely the heart is most  important. I once read about a headless chicken that lived a  long life after beheading.
 
  Maybe a hot chick like Kate Upton can still show her tits  for money without a head?
 
  No-one gives a fuck about what she thinks or says anyway.
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
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           melack
             from barcielwave on 2013-07-08 23:29 [#02459632]
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well, i never understood the point on preorders... only if  they are a limited run.. but with regular albums, why buying  them in advance? 
 
 
 
  
         
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           Ceri JC
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By pre-ordering you can get charged P&P on orders over £50.  Normally in Warpmart, orders over £50 would have free P&P,  but not if they are pre-orders. So you end up paying more,  in order to be guaranteed a copy on release day. 
 
  
         
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           Combo
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Isn't there always a limited run for every album? The  question is: how many?
 
  I think pre-orders are useful for labels to estimate how  many records they will sell, so how many they should  produce. 
 
  
         
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           jnasato
             from 777gogogo (Japan) on 2013-07-11 14:40 [#02459759]
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Elvis' Christmas Album has been produced since 1967.   They've been pressing 500,000 copies a day, since the moment  they started pressing the album, and it is in Elvis' eternal  contract that the album continues to be pressed, forever.   ...Or at least the album will be pressed until vinyl is no  longer possible, due to the world running out of plastic  making ability.
 
  So yes, all albums are limited runs, except for Elvis'  Christmas Album, which intends to be an infinite run, as  far as is possible.  The NWO will probably setup a pressing  plant to be self-sustaining, to continue pressing the album  even after some nuclear holocaust or human extinction. 
 
  
         
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           Combo
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Your comment was a great read. But its content doesn't seem  so true, according to internetz. 
 
  
         
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           RussellDust
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           shawnphase
             from baltimore (United States) on 2013-07-12 04:17 [#02459779]
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           Combo
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Jacquart Causeway sounds so lush on vinyl... Too bad this LP  has so few impressive melodies. 
 
  
         
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           Nintendo
             from the hague (Netherlands, The) on 2013-07-17 14:42 [#02460011]
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i'm finally in the mood for this. Warming up with u-ziq  lunatic harness, and then off to BOC 
 
  
         
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           EpicMegatrax
             from Greatest Hits on 2013-07-31 04:23 [#02460404]
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If you're into 80's vibe, listen to this whilst high. Even without the video, that track makes you feel like you're on coke and sports car-ing to the club in a light blue jacket with huge shoulder pads; fucking AC blasting cuz you're sweaty as fuck.
  jnasato's above review of "olivia" drew a remarkably vivid  picture in my mind. it's been popping into my head like a  catchy tune. 
 
  i was in my car today, AC cranked, sweaty, and i thought of  it for probably the fourth or fifth time this month. made  note to self to dig it up and give it the props it deserves,  and here we are. 
 
  
         
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           jnasato
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Thanks, man.  Glad to hear it.  If you go to used clothes  shops, you can pick up a 1980's baby blue blazer with  shoulder pads and white slacks, for like $10.  Go get a  haircut, slap on some hair gel, get some strawberry car air  freshener shit hanging from the rearview mirror, and play  Olivia.  You pick up any girl, in about 5 seconds after  entering your car and pressing play, you will immediately  transfer her into a cool time that she never experienced cuz  she was too young (unless you're picking up 50 year olds).   After that... it's up to you.
 
  If you just look into the distance whilst walking the  streets and play Olivia in your head, you might be  unstoppable. 
 
  
         
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           melack
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oh, now that i see this topic again,  let me make a very serious comment on the album:
  finally got it  (like a month ago, after 1 copy missed on the postal  service) 
  and gave it some proper listenings,
  and i must say its a very good and special album to my  ears,
  really diferent to other boc's,
  like 'a boc album seen from behind' (thats a thought i  got).
  Every thing is so unclear and dusty, 
  the distant complex melodies, fighting and alternating with  others,
  the impressive percussive high-tone work,  the clear un-sync'ed arpeggiated synths...
  its like that album was made,  and then left to rust in a windy desert for 8 years
  maybe is not as 'beautiful' as other boc albums, but the ambiances are just amazing, very cinematic, and it sounds like an step beyond the boc sound, totally essential, as the world and the music has changed a  lot in 8 years...
 
  another thought i got is that it is a very mature album,  because in the precedent albums they set they style, their  own language in our minds 
 
  (in fact, my feeling on first listenings was like if i  already knew those tunes, like i had heard them before)
 
  and in this one they are just playing with that language,  with our expectations, following or corrupting it to  transmit new ideas, find new ways to build a track, to make  a melody appear, a beat fade or whatever 
 
  thats why i think its a brilliant album, they know who they are and they dont need to make a  'perfect' album again, they just want to draw a very concret  landscape with their personal and unique colors.
 
 
 
  
         
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           Steinvordhosbn
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Good comment Melack, I like what you're saying.
 
  
         
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           melack
             from barcielwave on 2013-08-03 14:20 [#02460464]
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           hedphukkerr
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i totally see what you're saying, and agree.
  i keep coming back to it, and this album is just fucking  awesome. all killer, no filler. solid as fuck.
 
  maybe the best stuff they've ever made *ducks*
 
  
         
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           drill rods
             from 6AM-8PM NO PARKING (Canada) on 2013-08-15 02:37 [#02460796]
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"following or corrupting it to transmit new ideas"
  I still think there is a very strong political theme to this  album, I'm a bit frustrated that so few people seem to be  talking about it, especially since it sounds like that's  what the brothers wanted to happen. I mean, most IDM  superstarz just put out albums when they need more cash to  pay the rent - no deeper meaning ever intended. But not so  with this album.
 
  I think it's more about economics than environmentalism now  - especially economic growth and the way society basically  requires it in order to survive, despite its long-term  impossibility. Hence, collapse. Thus hence the bleak,  miserable tunes and soundscapes (and track names). 
 
  
         
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           RussellDust
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"most IDM  superstarz just put out albums when they need  more cash to pay the rent - no deeper meaning ever  intended"
 
  A bit harsh to say the least. :)
 
  
         
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           debaser
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           Cliff Glitchard
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           melack
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abandoned and post-apocalyptic"
 
  
         
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           obara
             from Utrecht on 2013-10-07 17:49 [#02462474]
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It's a true grower.
  I come back to it now and then, listen to those tracks on  various devices, in various situations and they always fit  or at least don't make me skip them.
 
  It's another classic BOC album. They should release more  often, they would own half Canada and all their boards by  now if they did. No business sense like RDJ, probably. 
 
  
         
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