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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-02-07 08:34 [#02365178]
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what a piece of shit album. if its legit.. im done. finished. i am so disappointed that its increased my depression. i was actually excited about this.. whats to be excited about now? they're just driving nails in the coffin. they retired years ago, anything that comes out of them now will NOT ever be what you want it to be. they've got lazy. and im sick of people saying it has to grow on me. i instantly fell in love with their earlier stuff, because it was genius. if they make something you have to try to like, then thats the ae fanboy in you trying to justify a piece of dogshit. fucking admit it, they spent more time, effort, hours, blood and sweat producing surripere than probably 10 entire tracks on oversteps. i wont even listen to it again, cause i pray to fuck this is fake. i want a blend. i want confields alien, i want drafts futuristic cyberpunk, i want gantz eps insane algorithms, i want ep7s squelchy static, i want tri repetaes crack addict beats, i want lp5s fun melodies, all in 1. am i ever going to get that from autechre? no. its been 5 years now. 2 studio albums, including alot of online ep quadrange shit. quari offered a few gems, but it was never an album in my mind. it was a period where they were dumping everything they did directly after untilteds tour material. THEY were supposed to make up for it with oversteps. not this melodic shit. ive heard better melodic styles like this from unsigned artists on random soundclick stations for christs sake. i give up on ae. thats the end of the road now. its just unexpected.. youve got netlabel peeps now churning out the old lush style. then you have the pioneers being lazy and releasing it. it is like insulting ae's fanbase. im pretty damn fucking sure they know what their fans want, ofcourse they read up on the reception. they probably read that we want more con-draft style, and they're like 'ugh.. that took so long to make, that was hard.. all that effort.. too lazy.' suck a dick autechre.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2010-02-07 08:35 [#02365179]
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I'll email it to you... give me a minute to slice it up
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RussellDust
on 2010-02-07 08:37 [#02365180]
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"it is like insulting ae's fanbase."
i don't feel that way. I must be lucky.
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hexane
on 2010-02-07 08:39 [#02365181]
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woah having second thoughts about listening now
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2010-02-07 08:40 [#02365182]
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Man, I'm sorry to hear this. I felt the same way about Quaristice, so I kind of understood.
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cuntychuck
from Copenhagen (Denmark) on 2010-02-07 08:40 [#02365183]
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what the fuck man?
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RussellDust
on 2010-02-07 08:40 [#02365184]
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Because of some bloke on a forum?
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rad smiles
on 2010-02-07 08:41 [#02365185]
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for some reason i'm ok with waiting.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2010-02-07 08:42 [#02365186]
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f U C K I N H
H ALLILOU Y A H
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yoyoyoyo
from Sweden on 2010-02-07 08:43 [#02365187]
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you suck
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rad smiles
on 2010-02-07 08:43 [#02365188]
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yeahhhhhhhh. i surprise myself sometimes.
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hexane
on 2010-02-07 08:43 [#02365189]
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well Gwely's taste is practically identical to mine so
still gonna listen but not in a hurry..
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 08:46 [#02365191]
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wow.
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disasemble
from United States on 2010-02-07 08:46 [#02365192]
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its a good and necessary shift for autechre, and if you dont like it you are probably more of an autechre fan than you are a fan of the concept of music as a whole, and for this you are stupid and should die horribly within a cage of eternal flames that burns your pitiful existence out of known reality
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2010-02-07 08:46 [#02365193]
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rad smiles, i love you cept your avatar
hey hexane, AUTECHRE SUCKS all their music sucks and Gwerly Mermans is either Sean or Rob or Mira pulliing your wank
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RussellDust
on 2010-02-07 08:47 [#02365194]
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He's just having a tantrum because they're not doing what he'd like them to be doing.
I'm liking what i hear so far. I'm about as excited as when LP5 came out.
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2010-02-07 08:48 [#02365195]
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or its autechre hype
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-02-07 08:48 [#02365196]
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guys im not saying its garbage music, im saying its shit for an upcoming ae release. im a connoisseur when it comes to ambiance and melodies, i just dont expect that treatment from autechre after such an amazing career followed up by queershit and then this. 2 in a row? yeah. im out.
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yoyoyoyo
from Sweden on 2010-02-07 08:49 [#02365197]
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you have to high expectations
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2010-02-07 08:50 [#02365198]
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some bands like to change thier style and progress they have enough money to do that and not just be cookie cutter IDM or whatever music style
youyoyoyoy, yes we Heart autechre, sure we have ^^^^ xpectationz
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2010-02-07 08:51 [#02365199]
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check your email Hanal
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hanal
from k_maty only (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-07 08:53 [#02365200]
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cheers dude
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-02-07 08:53 [#02365201]
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you don't even know what the fuck you're talking about.
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cx
from Norway on 2010-02-07 08:54 [#02365203]
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are we wrong for expecting cyberpunk / complex rhythms / lush autechre pads and synth stabs ala surripere, and are we wrong for not liking this synth mayhem baroque stuff?
i am a fan of ae, some might even call me a fanboy, and i will give this a chance, but sadly, i dont quite understand what it is they are trying to do. especially on the third track and beyond.
i think ilanders is an excellent track though.
this is the same thing as bnc Castl was to me for quari, or fermium for untilted. they go into a weird child like synth state and i just dont get it.
for me personally i always liked the more srs deeper stuff like see on see, ilanders, surripere, uviol, hub, tewe.. and in the old stuff i liked the desolate cold yet warm and lush moods of a dystopian robot future..
this album resonates with me on some levels, but is it what i wanted from AE? not really. i wanted more of the old stuff. im happy they are doing what they want to do, but to me this just isnt up to par with the old stuff.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2010-02-07 08:58 [#02365205]
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Its ironic the album cover has a big black hole on it, considering how bright and light the music is itself.
Sounds like an alien church in a desert covered with snow, reflecting light everywhere.
Best Autechre experience I have had in almost 7 years.
Great job guys...
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disasemble
from United States on 2010-02-07 08:59 [#02365206]
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yeah i certainly don't. i guess i should go back to having preconceived notions to how an artist should function creatively, therefore when they release something that sacrifices none of the qualities that make them good in the first place, i can throw a fit and write up a long stupid reason as to why their stylistic shift doesn't sit well with me because if autechre doesn't fit into the mold of what i assigned them then it's not autechre. huaur????????????????????????
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hexane
on 2010-02-07 09:00 [#02365208]
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Autechre (/ɔːˈtɛkər/ aw-TEK-ər)
music that has hidden dialogue in the form of predicate nouns, question & answer clauses and repeated motifs that speaks to me and my ilk, like so much music that i have bested, alone.
if you're not 'with' autechre then one of
i)you are worthwhile, anyone's while specifically who's is anyone's guess
ii)you wouldn't claim not to be a contender iii) you haven't heard it yet, but take our word it really is quite tuneful
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disasemble
from United States on 2010-02-07 09:00 [#02365209]
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Agreed.
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-02-07 09:01 [#02365210]
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It's a good thing for artists to stick with their initial style, and evolve it alright? I can always listen to biosphere and be mesmerized, in awe of the beautiful simplicity. I can listen to bad sector and feel totally cybernetic, dopplereffekt's neo-kraftwerk space music, bola's particular choice of sounds, the list goes on and on, hundreds of artists. so is it really that anal of me to say that autechre's radical shift is unpleasant? no, it's not. so fuck off any of you that think i'm being a wad.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 09:02 [#02365211]
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lol
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disasemble
from United States on 2010-02-07 09:02 [#02365212]
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lol
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hexane
on 2010-02-07 09:03 [#02365213]
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lol
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 09:06 [#02365214]
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but AUtehcre is always about radical shifts… . within their tracks and between albums. and actually one main element of why their music works so well is 'breaking expectations'. you're fooling yourself, all you need to do is realize you have to look at this release from a different perspective.
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disasemble
from United States on 2010-02-07 09:10 [#02365215]
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i love you all
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Gwely Mernans
from 23rd century entertainment (Canada) on 2010-02-07 09:10 [#02365216]
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I'm well aware of that. I know each ae album offers something completely new from the last. The problem is that their recent work hasn't showed much musical effort when you're talking about an artist that has totally brain fucked you with complexity. It's about as weird as steve roach suddenly doing an idm album, you've got this group of grassroot hippies pre-ordering expecting some more nomadic journeys into the abyss as they begin their peyote trip and whats this? this isn't steve roach.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 09:11 [#02365217]
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hm. what disasemble said.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com   on 2010-02-07 09:19 [#02365219]
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So are we thinking this will be on Bleep now in the next few days?
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 09:22 [#02365220]
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who knows ^^
the original leak source now says it has almost 600 downloads, when it first showed up it was around 400. how is this even possible? 440 downloads without it being noticed by zilty/watmm?
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vlari
from beyond the valley of the LOLs on 2010-02-07 09:22 [#02365221]
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nah they're probably going to retract the whole thing, because they felt bad about breaking gwely's heart
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 09:24 [#02365222]
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lol
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-02-07 09:26 [#02365223]
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my heart broke too, but that didn't keep me from downloading it. poor gwely.
the see on see track was nice
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QRDL
from Poland on 2010-02-07 10:12 [#02365232]
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I think Sadist makes the most sence. Autechre are just not very good with melodies. It's very apparent on the track that starts around 1 hour in. Actually, all the synth tracks that, I assume, were supposed to resemble charpsichord improvisations sound very forced. Not unlike the output of the more ambitious bedroom idm artists I heard and very much like SP's bass solos.
And it's not like they were better with melody in the past, this is actually the reason why I can't stand their pre-Confield work. I just think that what Autechre does best is sound sculpture and harsh experimentation still kept in confines of entertaining music. This is why they are the stars and not Richard Devine, who can make astonishing sound but I never had a desire to listen to his album for the second time.
However, there are some great moments on Oversteps, many more than on Quaristice. Ilanders is my favourite at the moment.
Does anybody really think that an artist should listen to what his/her fanbase expects? I applaud if Autechre don't give a fuck. You have the opportunity to listen to the music before the purchase (thank the internet), so don't buy it if you don't like it. If you see not conforming to your expectations as spitting in your face than you better get used to wiping it off for the rest of your life.
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-02-07 10:17 [#02365236]
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I think Sadist makes the most sence
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QRDL
from Poland on 2010-02-07 10:29 [#02365241]
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by the way, has anyone heard Telepathics Meh... yet?
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lupus yonderboy
from 1970. (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-07 10:32 [#02365242]
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i really like it - it's a welcome change of pace for me. in regards their melodies i always thought that one of ae's strong suits are that they aren't trained musicians so their melodies can be all over the place inferring loads of weird chords rather than more predicable fare. it's guided by their ears and taste rather than generic music theory rules imo.
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yoyoyoyo
from Sweden on 2010-02-07 11:11 [#02365247]
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ilanders 5:25 ilanders 5:25 (they play it twice) huhu why not?
it was even better on second listen
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RussellDust
on 2010-02-07 11:19 [#02365250]
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Autechre make some of the most memorable melodies. Shame some don't like the fact they aren't in your face. Listen to green day or something. =)
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QRDL
from Poland on 2010-02-07 11:20 [#02365251]
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*harpsichord something looked wrong
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 11:48 [#02365255]
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sence
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RussellDust
on 2010-02-07 11:50 [#02365257]
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For the haters: Don't worry, I'm sure Proem will release something soon. Or EDit.
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