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cx
from Norway on 2010-02-07 13:54 [#02365339]
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the reason genres are objective is because the song is still the same no matter who hears it. humans are taught to associate certain sounds and styles with certain words.
the frequency content of the song is thus interpreted in a similar way by the listener.
however, the value, emotion and meaning of a song does not translate to the objective frequencies.
the value and meaning is interpreted only in the brain, and since all humans and brains are equal, no person is more right or less right than any other.
and also, even if they were, its everyones godgiven fundamental right to be able to like whatever they want.
when i hear people say they dont like abstract music, saying its not music cause it doesnt have melody etc, i know that i feel different, and that its them who dont have the experience necessary to enjoy that music.
we all take different paths in life and our brains ends up differently, but that doesnt mean abstract music has any kind of lesser value than melodic.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com on 2010-02-07 13:56 [#02365340]
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This leak made me do several things:
- Immediately go to bleep and preorder the actual release.
- Seriously consider upgrading my operating system and my license to max/msp 5
- Anxiously await any recording / news of their upcoming tour, what it sounds like, etc
Fuck, 2010 is turning out to be one of the best years in a long time.
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goDel
from ɐpʎǝx (Seychelles) on 2010-02-07 13:56 [#02365341]
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so, i guess this laid thing won't catch on in here.
*sobs*
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com on 2010-02-07 14:01 [#02365342]
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THIS
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2010-02-07 14:05 [#02365343]
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Totally agreed. And want to add something, that no mater how different people see music, how different they understand music, we share something common which I cant define, this thing we call art.
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com on 2010-02-07 14:21 [#02365344]
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I dont know what track it is... but I love how at about 50minutes in, its like the most predictable cheese dick arpeggiated melody and basic rhythm, then they totall butt fuck it with all this awesome noise distortion random wankery so that you have nothing to grab ahold of.
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sadist
from the dark side of the moon on 2010-02-07 14:24 [#02365345]
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i srsly wish i could be at least half as excited
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com on 2010-02-07 14:28 [#02365347]
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it also made me really look forward to the BigShot article that is coming out
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cx
from Norway on 2010-02-07 14:32 [#02365348]
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ilanders is a masterpiece and my favorite
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com on 2010-02-07 14:38 [#02365349]
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I'm sorry to hear that sadist. Forgive me... as I want to avoid any subjectivity conversation once again and at any cost, but I just don't understand why people cant get behind this. It seems that any argument towards not appreciating this album contradicts why people fell in love with Autechre to begin with. They're doing whatever the fuck they want to.
Given their entire catalog, this album makes total sense to me. I'm not an early day proponent blowing Amber-era Autechre... Rather, I am in love with everything between Lp5 and Draft, and I despise Quaristice. Somehow this album just resonates with me on such a uniquely fucked up level that I havent felt since Confield first came out.
Could it have a smidge more of beat fuckery? Yes. Do I suspect we'll see that sometime this year? Absolutely.
Look at it this way... perhaps this is the calm before the storm.
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nightex
from Šiauliai (Lithuania) on 2010-02-07 14:42 [#02365350]
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Is this fake see on see
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 14:44 [#02365351]
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It seems that any argument towards not appreciating this album contradicts why people fell in love with Autechre
to begin with.
xactly. i simply cannot understand how anyone here can cream over Autechre in general, but instantly dismiss this for any reason. It's not what you expected, great!
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cx
from Norway on 2010-02-07 14:46 [#02365352]
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the problem for me is it just sounds a bit basic. like the beat on 0=O, its just a rather tame pfft type snare/kick..
the bell is kinda weird too. i dunno what it is but it sounds weird.
i think however ilanders is a masterpiece. and see on see
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com on 2010-02-07 14:49 [#02365354]
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Remember folks, you're listening to a piecemeal iTunes chew up and spit out transcode with default crossfading.
If you dont think that will make or break your experience, I can only point out how much the 256kbps soundboard recording of the 2005 Glasgow set offered compared to its 128kbps predecessor, which we had to live with for an entire year prior.
So much more will open up with the proper wav files.
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NewSkoolScience
from Outer Bongolia on 2010-02-07 14:57 [#02365356]
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06. see on see- Underwater harpsichord played through a prism.
Ha ha, awesome. I think I'm going to try and resist listening to this, although what bit rate was the leak recorded at? Have pre-ordered already, hope they push the digital release date forward like they did with Quaristice -- with Ae it's gots to be FLAC!
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-02-07 15:09 [#02365359]
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there would be no autechre or art in general in Plato's Republic. So be careful of how 'logically' you want to live. the obsession with rationality and logic can be just a dangerous a passion when used to just support your own agenda. pacifism is the way until you die. ?
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pulseclock
from Downtown 81 on 2010-02-07 15:13 [#02365360]
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what drove him mad is no women.
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futureimage
from buy FIR from Juno (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-07 15:24 [#02365361]
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No, that's not fake.
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2010-02-07 15:27 [#02365363]
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I believe I said something to this effect when Draft, Untilted and Quaristice came out but here goes:
It's benefited my enjoyment of ae to not compare their last few albums with their previous work. Confield and Gantz Graf were as deep and alien as they could go, the peak of their career, the peak of all this “IDM.”
Everything released since then (including Draft imo) has been more jam-driven. They're having fun now. They're just making cool tunes and sharing them with us. The “statement” the albums seem to be making is less profound, and I don't know that there's any really new territory to cover--- but I'm just glad that they're letting us hear their new jams.
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robbie_eleckt
from time to time on 2010-02-07 15:36 [#02365364]
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Everything released since then (including Draft imo) has been more jam-driven. They're having fun now. They're just making cool tunes and sharing them with us. I agree
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cronenburger
from Ireland on 2010-02-07 15:41 [#02365365]
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can someone make a .cue file for the file, not arsed
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2010-02-07 15:58 [#02365368]
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I like the part where they make some noise, then it changes, then they make some noise again.
I have THEORIES about what this all MEANS.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 16:00 [#02365369]
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:O
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 16:01 [#02365370]
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:(O)
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-07 16:01 [#02365371]
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I turned it off three quarters of the way though the first time, although I had enjoyed the first half.
Some of this reminds me of the Chimes package I had for Windows 95 by Syntrillium. So I can understand the fears regarding some of the melodies. The melodies that you didn't notice, perhaps because they are suburb (you have a tendency to only notice the bad at first), are the ones you need to focus on.
For me, the first half of this is enough for me to warrant buying the album alone. I am very pleased I pre-ordered the ultra-high quality digital release. I can't wait to listen to that on my system.
Someone said that the fake was better? You must be deaf. The fake was deeply, deeply, SHITE! The absolute worst...
This album is great. I love it. I can't wait to get the legit one.
Anyone who hasn't listened to the leak yet, wait, you will not be disappointed in the long run although perhaps the first listen will shock you. This is total sweetness, you need to hear it in the best quality at the right time though.
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 16:01 [#02365372]
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+.( O )
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 16:03 [#02365373]
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_*[o ]
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 16:04 [#02365374]
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u^( -- FFFFUUUUUU F UUUU UU U)
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 16:05 [#02365375]
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%D
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 16:05 [#02365376]
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@@P
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Terence Hill
from Germany on 2010-02-07 16:06 [#02365377]
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-07 16:09 [#02365378]
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Terence. Would you care to stop spamming this thread?
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05
from vita contemplativa on 2010-02-07 16:24 [#02365381]
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O=0
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05
from vita contemplativa on 2010-02-07 16:25 [#02365382]
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loving it
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-07 16:27 [#02365383]
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Sticking your penis up your own backside wasn't a good idea then?
That was a rhetorical question. I really don't care.
Oversteps is an amazing album.
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fleetmouse
from Horny for Truth on 2010-02-07 16:27 [#02365384]
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Oh man, the one that sounds like a male belly dancer adjusting his front derailleur is epic. It's like I can smell the hairs around his navel.
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BernardMatthews
from United Kingdom on 2010-02-07 16:28 [#02365385]
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your fucking mental and your ears are wrong if you think this is real...
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-07 16:31 [#02365386]
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Does it smell like patchouli and spices? Or was the best your mind's... nose could conjure up rancid sweat?
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Spikee Dragon
from Newcastle (United Kingdom) on 2010-02-07 16:32 [#02365387]
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lol
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jonestm
from American Samoa on 2010-02-07 16:34 [#02365388]
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Mine cuts off about half way through and downloadedtwice from different places :(
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gl0tch
from www.gl0tch.com on 2010-02-07 16:40 [#02365389]
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Proven to be wrong, in:
5... 4... 3... 2...
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BernardMatthews
from United Kingdom on 2010-02-07 17:15 [#02365396]
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cheeky
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Co-existence
from Bergen (Norway) on 2010-02-07 17:32 [#02365400]
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I love this and I do believe that it's real and I can't see how anyone with an interest in Autechre could dismiss it as a bad album. It's celestial and almost spiritual without being some kind of cheesy new age thing that I think someone suggested earlier. Just the fact that I KNOW this is real, after several fakes that I instantly KNEW was fakes, says a lot about the qualities of the arts and crafts that make up the phenomenon we all know as Autechre.
And another thing: This album makes me think of one particular track that has gone strangely unmentioned through this thread: VLetrmx. I have felt the same kind of goose bumps, over and over agin, listening to this leak as I used to - and still do - get when I hear the mighty, religious VLetrmx. I wish I could feed all the digital data from the oversteps album into a massive, modern church organ and play it back in some mighty chatedral. What's his name again? Johan Sebastian Booth? No, sorry... Johan Sebastian Brown...
Seriously, I LOVE THIS ALBUM :)
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BernardMatthews
from United Kingdom on 2010-02-07 17:35 [#02365401]
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mental...
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jonestm
from American Samoa on 2010-02-07 17:41 [#02365402]
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Does anyone have a link to one where it's broken up into the individual tracks PLEASE?
The two I downloaded stop halfway through
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2010-02-07 18:07 [#02365410]
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Haha!
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Wolfslice
from Bay Area, CA (United States) on 2010-02-07 18:18 [#02365419]
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jostem, sorry I can't help you out with the broken up version right now, but the m4a file is complete for sure... it was probably just a problem with either your net or the download server. Try again, you should get it eventually.
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jonestm
from American Samoa on 2010-02-07 18:21 [#02365420]
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cheers, I'll try agasin tomorrow. Really liked what I heard though, can't wait to see them in Glasgow :)
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rudster
from the glasgow on 2010-02-07 18:29 [#02365428]
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very impressed so far, much better than that quaristace mess
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2010-02-07 18:30 [#02365431]
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2 x 100
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