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offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-27 12:44 [#02629425]
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back when, if you put a data CD into your ghettoblaster and
rocked track 01, it's... well, loud? because track 01 is the
data track

is it possible to
[1. take a song in FLAC format
2. dump that onto a dub plate in the same way, so
3. someone has to rip the vinyl, dump to a file, and rename
to .FLAC to hear the song]
and then sell that for a lot of money as an art
piece?

asking for mermaidman


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-27 12:48 [#02629426]
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i got it m8. we put a donk on a donk, and then encode it as
a FLAC in a FLAC and email it to the factory


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-07-27 22:16 [#02629457]
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what way of encoding the data
if FLAC is maximally compressed, and you choose some way of
encoding data into sound that is optimal, i reckon you may
be able to fit a second or two...
absolutely no basis for this, total guess... ask on
stackoverflow or something people there will tell you
exactly how big the record needs to be


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-07-27 22:20 [#02629458]
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they used to have records affixed to magazines back years
ago with data on, before floppies were a thing.... cannae
think of examples now, think they were games ... anyone
know?


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-07-27 22:21 [#02629459]
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ah yeah
LAZY_TITLE
not as good as bone records


 

offline steve mcqueen from caerdydd (United Kingdom) on 2023-07-27 22:32 [#02629460]
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Ps. if u wanna bend ur mind a bit, look into how LLMs are
related to lossless compression... some dudes recently did a
PoC using fuckin gzip


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 03:28 [#02629551]
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oh, you're dead on. but i've been here quite a while
already!

i've joked LLMs finally made it possible to download the
internet... remember that? can you download the internet
onto a floppy for me? now a fair portion of it can fit on a
USB stick

before that, i decided: language is compression. the brain
compresses everything because even with doing this, it is a
power-hungry, heat-belching monster of an organ. this is why
it's hard to get people to revisit previous conclusions;
consider new opinions: unpacking that requires energy

...however, the gzip thing is new. have a link?

do you think .htaccess is turing-complete?
asking for phobiazero.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 03:33 [#02629552]
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was just looking at it

https://www.reddit.com/r/askscience/comments/27zksf/theoret
ically_what_is_the_data_capacity_of_a/

summary: you could totally fit a FLAC on here.

data disk: yeah, that's an obvious thot (tape data audio).
but we have better tech now and reddit agrees. having it
play modem noises would be hilarious but this would come out
sounding more like you played a data CD

the biggest issue is how people will un-can the FLAC from
the vinyl. you could provide a custom bit of software, but
it would be much more entertaining for all if you could post
instructions with links to open-source tools (and good luck
lads! no tech support)

because someone will post a torrent of it within 24 hours,
leaving everyone else to the point, arguably: go through
this process as a novelty and perhaps learn a bit. or merely
kill a saturday


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 03:41 [#02629553]
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i was also thinking about how you could actually implement a
DRM scheme on vinyl. it is as challenging as it is
obnoxious

it's a shame you can't just laser-print the whole thing in
3D (or can you?)

...because, i dunno... eight sequences of four
razor-select-able grooves. will be enough serial numbers to
cover this stupid idea. they're pressed with the grooves all
walled off and you go into each vinyl and nick open one of
the grooves at each of the eight stages. this produces
audio, which someone plays into their smartphone...

the FLAC idea seems more like an actual thing. and can't see
anyone having done it so far


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 03:45 [#02629554]
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reddit link

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shannon%E2%80%93Hartley_the
orem

The signal to noise ratio is between 1k and 10k from Google,
so the bit capacity per second is about 10x the bandwidth.
And both sides gives 45 minutes for the time, and let's
assume the bandwidth is 50kHz.

Then the total is about 170 MB, or 340 MB for a stereo
LP

--some guy on reddit 9 years ago

...who sounds like he has an electrical engineering degree
while everyone else in teh reddit is talking out of their
ass


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 03:57 [#02629555]
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energy-efficiency

and yeah a link to gzip thing plz?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 04:56 [#02629556]
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Base64 to Audio in your browser

Based64


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 13:14 [#02629575]
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signal chain like..

1. source FLAC of normal audio¹
2. convert FLAC to base64
3. digital modulation with checksum to FLAC
4. FLAC to vinyl factory
5. manage to sell this to someone without being afx or
plastikman or something, ship it to poland, etc
6. vinyl to punter
7. rip vinyl to computer
8. demodulate from flac to base64
9. paste it into what i linked in my previous post and it
will come out as audio

¹ currently using the audio of cardi b throwing a mic at
some twit. there's a meaty thwoomp and a Wut Da FUK and
expect me to sample this later


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 13:21 [#02629577]
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that i was being all flip, asking -- "yes, what happens to
the frequencies on vinyl if you set your turntable weights
to 'roseanne barr' and the needle shreds it?"

...and now this matters, right? because you can't expect it
to come through pristine. that it will start to accumulate
errors over repeated plays, even before it goes through
someone's home vinyl rip setup

...so it really does have to be an error-correcting thing.

i understand this in a general sense (time to frequency
domain! QAM! math!)
i also understand it's generally sensible to use something
off the shelf if you can

the first thing i looked at was GNU Radio, because... SDR
has to have all this crap by definition, and the only issue
is: is this the easiest answer?

fuck no. GNU Radio is a monster. don't even look at it


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 13:28 [#02629578]
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that guy did his math with the bandwidth of vinyl as "50khz"
which may be technically correct but J. Random Punter's
vinyl rip specs will limit us to 22050hz


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 14:35 [#02629579]
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if i can have one side of the vinyl and someone else has a
factory, they can have the other side

and now i get to be all ~TIL~
even though some of it was yesterday

why yes, vinyl does go beyond human hearing. they used tones
~30khz to control some of the quadraphonic nightmares back
in the 70s

...and if you use your 96k sampling rate gear, you can stuff
at most perhaps 300mb onto a stereo vinyl (error correction
eats some up). that is, using frequencies up to 48khz

obviously at hearing range, 22hz, you're down below 150
still enough for a FLAC

but, giggle. ripping a vinyl will make a larger FLAC

(however, like a penis -- what the vinyl does with those
bits really matters. from there it gets really complex. i
think i'll just leave it at a cheap shot across the bow of
vinyl)


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 14:57 [#02629580]
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hm, hmm, shit. you can guarantee what gets pressed onto the
vinyl, presumably, but you can't guarantee what exact speed
someones SL-1200 is at, and i'm not sure if even GNU Radio
would have an answer for that.

you could add a calibration step, you could have software do
it for you based on some tracking markers. fine, but... this
buggers up the process with more steps

demodulating from [off the shelf system] and being able to
automatically account for speed variations... this is about
where i say, "i majored in comp sci, not electrical
engineering" but it should be pretty clear i delight in
saying SO WHAT and my offer still stands. i could do this


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 14:59 [#02629581]
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i should be working on the video software i'm actually being
paid for instead. i'll kick myself off of the fun stuff for
now


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 15:55 [#02629582]
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Flexi discs vinyl record manufacturers. A list of vinyl
record companies providing flexi discs


ahaha


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 16:24 [#02629583]
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recycle said he'd buy a 12" of one of his tracks a month ago
and the dude is still talking about vinyl. why would you
even consider vinyl? to sell one copy to recycle?


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 18:58 [#02629584]
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your inability to read what's in front of your beak never
ceases to astound. see where i said "i need to kick myself
off of the fun stuff and do 'work'"

do you know what .htaccess is? do you know how wrong
attempting to prove that it's turing-complete is? how about
trying to find a way to lock a vinyl down with DRM?

similarly, i want to distribute a FLAC file using a vinyl,
which could entail sending a FLAC of a FLAC to the Factory,
and this is called a hack. it's a hack to vinyl FLAC.

but i don't have the cash for it. and, you did not seem to
read the part where i said "i don't know how you'd sell this
without being afx or plastikman" and "if i get half the
vinyl i'll make this work" and i didn't say: at this point
i'd prefer plastikman because he actually seems like he can
string a line of code together rather than hire people to
write code

if he paid well enough i'd just implement for afx and let
him take credit though. because it's a nice cheeky stunt. in
addition to being a hack

meanwhile, you never answered me in the other thread: what
kind of WAV file do you, as a professional troll, prefer?

the 20-bit bluray audio one? the crusty old ones that only
open on a mac classic? do you want alaw or mulaw PCM
encoding? because the RIFF/WAV format encapsulates loads of
other crap just like MP4. Except RIFF/WAV is ugly dogshit
full of legacy crap no one ever uses

unlike FLAC -- from which it is guaranteed you can recover
an exact copy of the input data. if you send that to a vinyl
shop and they say "we don't know how to use this" you've
probably made the mistake every friday and you're not
emailing an album master, you're huffing paint in a
half-flooded abandoned rock quarry


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 19:03 [#02629585]
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meanwhile: i need to order diana deutsch's books; riced out
industries bought out The Goose Brand™ so that can wait
anyways -- and back to my FLAC on vinyl idea

- Trying to put out a FLAC on flexidisc is ~lol~ but they're
so crap you'd never be able to even get a good rip out of
it. But you CAN still get flexidisc made. lol

- it would need good vinyl to work

- you'd have to be very clear with people that you have to
have one of those QUARTZ CONTROLLED turntables where the
speed is automatically calibrated, wow and flutter
controlled (leaving it still entirely possible for someone
to just have the pitch slider nudged)

how about the follow-up album? where a custom encoding
scheme allows it to be a perfectly listenable vinyl, that
can be turned into a FLAC of an entirely different track
using the computer?

but walk before you run; it needs to work as just djgkdfg
playing a data CD noise first


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 19:07 [#02629586]
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i'd forgotten about flexidiscs. i didn't realize you can
still get them made. or that you can get ones that work as
postcards made. getting nowhere on googling things like
"signal to noise ratio of flexidisc" and i still can't
afford that anyways

however, it's inspiring. i could do all sorts of absurd
things with those without Shannon-Hartley slapping me with
the math hammer


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 19:14 [#02629587]
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i don't understand why you would want to distribute a flac
using vinyl
i export 96khz 24bit wav


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 19:30 [#02629588]
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funny you mention that. search for "96k" on this page and

why yes, vinyl does go beyond human hearing. they used
tones ~30khz to control some of the quadraphonic nightmares
back in the 70s

...and if you use your 96k sampling rate gear, you can stuff
at most perhaps 300mb onto a stereo vinyl (error correction
eats some up). that is, using frequencies up to 48khz


that in trying to solve this as a technical problem, well,
after i wrote the quoted post, i thought "well i checked, i
definitely am recording to 24 bit, but i think i'll see if
my $400 yamaha mixer can do 88200 because i STILL don't want
to fuck with sample rate conversion"

and i'm using a $400 mixer's built-in usb. even if reaper
will let me turn it up that doesn't mean it matters. 24bit
does, tho, and it definitely is. i did say i'd go and check


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 19:32 [#02629589]
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but, yes, 24 bit, i might double the sampling rate if the
hardware can even do it, because it might go on vinyl
someday


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 19:35 [#02629590]
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also: playing a vinyl record is an inherent act of
destruction. you damage the record more and more every time.
it is also like the japanese tea ceremony, which symbolizes
how every moment is unique and cannot be precisely
duplicated.

more practically, a copy that wears out could help you sell
more copies that wear out, and i see the logic in the whole
business model now

as for thad: i'm just asking him what he likes and why? and
how about this? just bouncing ideas. the man has a canoe;
he's clearly broke as shit


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 19:37 [#02629591]
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what do you mean with "if you use your 96k sampling rate
gear, you can stuff
at most perhaps 300mb onto a stereo vinyl"


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 19:43 [#02629592]
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dear steve mcqueen

summary: good vinyl, stern warnings about a stable turntable
req'd, you could get a FLAC on each side. the technical
challenges include: this needs to be fucking error corrected
because it will accumulate more data errors with every play;
i'd outright throw 1/4 of it into just the same data over
again so you can be sure it all gets there. GNU Radio is a
beast but once i realized "you can't guarantee the speed of
the end-user turntable" and maybe the right digital
modulation scheme can solve this, or maybe you need to put
tracking markers all over, and this is where i say "that
looks like a fucking mess to learn but now some easier
options [ffmpeg] seem off the table". if you know someone
who can press vinyl, i'll sort out the rest if i can have
one side of it for my own track and a bunch of copies


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 20:50 [#02629593]
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read the thread bro. i'm only here to crush you further over
file formats

i did my senior thesis in high school on the cocktail party
effect -- how you're able to listen to one person talking in
a room full of people yakking and somehow pick it all out.

i reasoned the reverse would also be true: if you saturate
someone with enough voices, it will A) sound like a cocktail
party B) at some point become impossible to listen to any of
them

to do this i pirated loads of audio books and then wrote
some software to auto-mix them into randomly generated test
sound files. and, hey, i was just talking about diana
deutsch, i was already invading her turf in high school?
rad. it's good juju when things cross over like that

this was when i learned RIFF/WAV was pure dogshit; an unholy
mess. to this day, i will do anything possible to avoid
having to read or write or write it directly.

it was also the first time i saw this giant menu of PCM
encoding options. i went with μ-law because it had the
coolest name

i looked it up on wikipedia just now and it does not even
mention WAV files, as it is merely "a companding algorithm,
primarily used in 8-bit PCM digital telecommunication
systems in North America and Japan. It is one of the two
companding algorithms in the G.711 standard from ITU-T, the
other being the similar A-law."

...and europe prefers A-law on there telephones and i'm
gratified to know i made the right choice -- the american
choice

i can't get too technical about their innate differences,
but if you start trying to convert between all these
casually, it _will_ kill your audio data. the only reason it
doesn't is because everyone is using the same settings. but
try to open up a WAV file from, like, win 3.1 era and it
might not even work now


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 20:53 [#02629594]
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wtf are you talking about? how is any of this answering my
question


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 20:56 [#02629595]
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you didn't answer why you would want to distribute flacs
using vinyl either. you can't because once you record to
vinyl there is no flac lol


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 20:58 [#02629596]
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it would only make sense if you were fucking with me


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 21:21 [#02629597]
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On Microsoft Windows, the WAV format supports compressed
audio using the Audio Compression Manager (ACM). Any ACM
codec can be used to compress a WAV file.


another fine innovation from the company that decided it was
perfectly logical to paint pixels starting at the bottom of
the screen somewhere deep in the 90s

if you ever ask me for a wav file, watch out. i could
carefully construct the most giant nightmare you've ever
seen

you're asking dumb questions to get replies


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 21:25 [#02629598]
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Though a WAV file can contain compressed audio, the most
common WAV audio format is uncompressed audio in the linear
pulse-code modulation (LPCM) format. LPCM is also the
standard audio coding format for audio CDs, which store
two-channel LPCM audio sampled at 44.1 kHz with 16 bits per
sample. Since LPCM is uncompressed and retains all of the
samples of an audio track, professional users or audio
experts may use the WAV format with LPCM audio for maximum
audio quality.[9] WAV files can also be edited and
manipulated with relative ease using software.


note the reverse this wikiblurb tiptoes around: WAV files
can use a lossy codec like ACM instead of being uncompressed
audio. everyone everywhere all at once uses LPCM and if
anyone steps out of line you're all fucked. the part about
"edited and manipulated with relative ease" right out the
window


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 21:30 [#02629599]
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i mean you can wedge FLAC right good as well in ways it's
just way way harder. it's not like WAV

...where someone ...accidentally scrubbing the mousewheel
...while moving over the dropdown to select audio coding...
a dropdown they ignore so thoroughly they do not visually
perceive it when they go back to see what screwed it up and
HALP

it was a long time ago but i was literally called in once to
"fix it" over this


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-07-31 21:38 [#02629600]
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point: i believe, mermaidman, you were asking me why i would
"compress" with FLAC instead of just sending a "pure" WAV
file, without understanding that a WAV file can contain a
96kbit microsoft .ACM file

steve is more fun. can i get him back?


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 21:45 [#02629601]
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obviously i was talking about an uncompressed wav dummy and
i never said wav. you can use an UNCOMPRESSED aiff if you
like. and i never said why would you send a flac file. you
kept saying "vinyl pressed from FLAC" which doesn't make any
sense.


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-07-31 22:30 [#02629602]
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ok i read the thread (didn't read it before sorry) and
you're talking about converting binary data to audio and
recording to vinyl which god knows why you would want to do
something like that


 

offline RussellDust on 2023-07-31 23:46 [#02629603]
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He should do it. Do stuff, epic! Not that you aren’t
already doing stuff.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-01 01:53 [#02629613]
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you're talking about converting binary data to audio and
recording to vinyl which god knows why you would want to do
something like that


for the same reason i'm firm in my belief that if you

1. took away Michael Bay's computers
2. forced him to make a 90's throwback action movie
3. ...using only the equipment used Oppenheimer
4. ...70mm, real film
5. ...EXCEPT he is granted at least ~$30m budget to smash
6. ...as many of those fucking $500k IMAX 1750 cameras as he
wants
7. ...on top of his normal budget for exploding cars

you would get what is probably the most amazing, gnarly
movie the planet has ever seen. and all the fussbuckets
crying over how Mikey smashed all those "gorgeous" cameras
is the icing on the cake

also: because it's a hack. because it's hard. because it'd
be a cheeky stunt that could generate publicity. because i
think it's fucking cool. because it'll piss the vinyl nuts
off. because it'll piss the FLAC fans off. because it'll
confuse the shit out people like you. here we are arguing
about it, right? already people are talking about it, yes?

you kept saying"vinyl pressed from FLAC" which doesn't
make any sense


i want to distribute a FLAC file using a vinyl, which
could entail sending a FLAC of a FLAC to the Factory, and
this is called a hack. it's a hack to vinyl FLAC


hack the factory
sick of their FLAC

...but then, you don't even use commas when you write. so
i'm not going to attempt to explain style

if you want to be super literal -- sending the FLAC is when
you relinquish your control over the situation. then it
comes back as vinyl. FLAC to vinyl. boom



 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-01 02:15 [#02629614]
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He should do it. Do stuff, epic! Not that you aren’t
already doing stuff.


i can't help it. it's almost clinical. i do stuff like a
smackhead shoots up. i'll sit there and grind on it until my
stomach is screaming and everything is sore and i love every
minute of it

"oh, it's not going to be quite that easy" but then i look
to the next step, and... i can reach that! AAAAA HERE I COME
and just imagine 5yo me screaming at the top of his lungs as
he hurls himself to the pit of giant colorful balls

it's harder than i thought, but i actually know/remember
more than i thought. which has made it pretty painless, just
going a step at a time, just the usual hassles like
realizing i haven't eaten any of the soup sitting on my desk
for a half hour.

however, as things stand -- i'm only half of the vinyl. i'm
software, science, UX, etc

this project needs someone to claim the other half of the
vinyl and handle the hardware. the most tacky part of the
hardware role is paying for the vinyl to get made, because i
can't afford it

...but i've also no idea how to sort out a pressing -- no
idea which places are good. no existing relationships with
pressing plants that can be leveraged to explain how odd
this particular vinyl will be and any special considerations
it may need. because, if you can believe it, i'm not very
patient on the phone


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-01 02:18 [#02629615]
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the hardware role begins to look more attractive once you
realize it'll be me answering the emails of people who can't
get it to work


 

offline mermaidman on 2023-08-01 10:53 [#02629618]
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you kept saying"vinyl pressed from FLAC" which doesn't
make any sense

"i want to distribute a FLAC file using a vinyl, which
could entail sending a FLAC of a FLAC to the Factory, and
this is called a hack. it's a hack to vinyl FLAC"

nah you weren't talking about recording data back then it
was in another thread.

what i'm wondering is how your track will come out the other
side with all the noise and artifacts that will be added to
the data also wow and flutter


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-02 01:42 [#02629619]
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i really hope this is just trolling. because if it ain't...
well, that's pretty pathetic. like, i'm not even laughing.
you really don't get this? really? after actually
reading it?

in the middle of you being a know-nothing know-it-all, i
used the yellow font to drop a note for steve so if he gets
back to me on any of this he can read that bit and not have
to wade through me spanking you. it included stuff like
"it's going to accumulate more data errors with every play"
and "i'd devote at least 1/4 of the capacity to redundancy
to make sure it all gets there" and "i'm not sure if you can
find a digital modulation scheme to neutralize variations in
turntable playback speed or if you'd have to put tracking
markers everywhere yet"

...and that did segue nicely into spanking you over how WAV
file is just a container format and you're dolt.


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-02 01:50 [#02629620]
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is mermaidman afx? that'd fit perfectly. the disconnect
between ego and actual technical capability


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-02 02:05 [#02629621]
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wotsit.org is gone! *screaming crying emoji*

that site was gooood. it's where i downloaded the RIFF/WAVe
spec from in 2002. and so many other fings

i wanted to go back and read the specs for riff/wav for
nostalgia (and, admittedly, to make sure i've dotted my
eyes; crossed my tease. since i'm running my mouth. but my
only doubts are worrying i've bodged a detail or two)


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-02 02:36 [#02629624]
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...and i'm utterly convinced this can be made to work, it's
just a question of how much firepower it'll take. because,
like, if you can do fucking serato timecode discs then...

LAZY_TITLE


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-02 02:39 [#02629625]
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do you think serato would care if their patents were
infringed upon for a small art project? it's been long
enough they might all be expired now anyways

and the idea of this being a threat to their bottom line is
absurd


 

offline EpicMegatrax from Greatest Hits on 2023-08-02 02:57 [#02629626]
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serato uses timing differences between the two stereo
channels, essentially, which means halving the usable
capacity. tracking markers means a hybrid approach, regular
bursts of serato-style sync bookending little blasts of
error-corrected data. but then we get into: it's easier to
use something off the shelf, if you can. and how much
firepower does this need


 


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