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weltact
from Taiwan on 2005-05-16 07:27 [#01600426]
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well goin to any IDM club event..only kids with spotty faces around..
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-16 07:28 [#01600428]
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I just think they have always dared to go with the kind of electronica that no other label would. They deal with artists that are awkward yet very talented and thus a lot of the music is a gamble - how much of Warp's catalogue is accessible really? Take Drukqs for example.
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dariusgriffin
from cool on 2005-05-16 07:33 [#01600435]
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This is even worse than I thought it would be.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-16 07:50 [#01600453]
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you can't generalise the entier genre and all the fans..im not sure what sort of fans attend idm gigs overthere, but here and good part of europe i always meet same people - no matter whether it's electronica, indie rock, punk rock, jazz,...as long as it's good.
exaph, well, 15 years ago lfo and now were something totally different and new, but nowdays warp is surely the most accessible/mainstream electronica label around..which is only normal really.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-16 07:56 [#01600456]
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Maybe they are nowadays yes. But only because of what they have done.
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obara
from Utrecht on 2005-05-16 10:46 [#01600751]
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well, 10 years ago there were kids with spotty faces at grunge gigs.
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what's wrong with that ? just don't faggin go to them, i can't understand what's your problem really. be glad that you have ears and are able to listen to music anyway. peace !
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ecnadniarb
on 2005-05-16 10:57 [#01600769]
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The rediculous thing is that dispite your new found 'maturity' you are talking about IDM geeks in the same way IDM geeks talk about other genre's. You have simply had a change in listening taste and you seem to think you have bettered yourself as a result. Quite frankly that just proves you haven't changed at all. You are still the type of person you claim to hate.
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horsefactory
from 💠 (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-16 11:07 [#01600785]
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Christ, I hate this attitude where you're not allowed to dislike anything that is not electronic or is popular without being called pompous and "omg u only hate it because it is guitar music/popular u r so narrow minded" - it is possible to dislike this kind of shit simply because it is completely fucking dull and has been done a million times before, not because you're trying to look clever or because it doesn't fit in with some "experimental electronic" idea that you have - just because it's absolute wank. Maximo Park are shit, nice one Warp, sign the Kaiser Franz Razorlight Athelete Chiefs next please.
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dopper
from Bern (Switzerland) on 2005-05-16 11:09 [#01600786]
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you must be in that new group warp just signed called C-Man's Tane
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-16 11:14 [#01600790]
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you're a prick. LOOK AT ME I'M GROWN UP NOW I'M BETTER THAN ALL THIS.
YOU'RE AN ASSHOLE
YOU'RE A FUCKING PRICK
YOU'RE A TOTAL WANKER
YOU'RE A MOTHERFUCKING CUNTRAG.
read this again "ive heard everything there is." and now realise why you sound like a tosspot.
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nacmat
on 2005-05-16 12:48 [#01600982]
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call warp now... they are making bill angry!!
stop crying
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-16 13:03 [#01601023]
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Now I listen to both rock music and electronic music (as Im sure many/most people here do) and when I heard Warp had signed a guitar-pop band from the North East I thought wow if people with such good taste as Warp like this band I probably will.
But when I first heard the music, I really disliked it. In short it reminded me of many groups I have seen in various pubs throughout the years producing jangly skewed guitar riffs fronted by a sensitive Morrissey type with impossible hair. There is nothing for me there, Ive heard it before, it does not excite me, it does not engage me in any way. But if many people like this genre and style of music, more power to them and I wish Maximo Park well.
However I am worried that Warp might do a Tony Blair on us, abandoning its roots in order to diversify and survive, but then 5 years later we might have 20 guitar pop bands on Warp and nobody to put out groundbreaking dance music. Still if Warp does go RIP, there'll always be something else to take its place.
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nacmat
on 2005-05-16 13:08 [#01601034]
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there will always be a new independent label who will take care of good music, so no worries
actually there are lots
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-16 13:12 [#01601042]
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you. like. linkin. park.
ha. ha. ha.
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Exaph
from United Kingdom on 2005-05-16 15:15 [#01601280]
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Hah! I say: Those who fear Warp do not know Warp.
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Q4Z2X
on 2005-05-16 15:26 [#01601298]
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I heard 'apply some pressure' on the radio and didn't really like it. It didn't stand out to me really, and I was suprised to read all this hear.. that they are signed to warp. What warp really aughtta do instead of staying with entirely electronic acts, or signing straight-up 'rock' acts is to sign some stuff that doesn't fit into one clear genre. ..Stuff that might have vocals or guitars, but still pushes the envelope in some regard, in terms of production, instrumentation, etc. But I guess if they were to do such a thing all the fanboys would revolt, saying that they are tainting their music with quasi-experimental numbskull rock 'n' roll. But I think different styles could coexist on the label peacefully, as long as the acts that are signed won't be embarassing a few years later when the fashionablity runs out.
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WeaklingChild
from Glasgow (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-16 16:18 [#01601374]
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seriously though, if you dont like it...dont buy it. for fuck's sake, catch a grip.
warp records doesnt owe any of you a fucking thing.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-16 16:19 [#01601376]
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we can still be bitter about it, right? :)
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-16 17:33 [#01601497]
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lets all cry into our cheerios about this.
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tolstoyed
from the ocean on 2005-05-16 17:37 [#01601498]
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hahaha :)
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weltact
from Taiwan on 2005-05-16 17:52 [#01601507]
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i dont know what to say somehow everyhting seems futile
richard you twat, what did you do to these naive kids?
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disasemble
from United States on 2005-05-16 18:01 [#01601515]
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im in agreement with horsefactory
i like guitars and i like pop. but this doesnt help maximo park. theres absolutely nothing, at all, that differentiates them from any other random guitar pop group on the face of the planet. so why should i care? it just sounds like everything else. electronica has this problem too, im not picking sides. but just becuase i think maximo park sucks doesnt mean i dont think jimmy edgar sucks. because he does.
theres nothing wrong with guitars or guitarish pop. its just that maximo park is a fucking crock.
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b6662966
from ? on 2005-05-16 18:11 [#01601523]
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Hav'nt we already heard Maximo Park when they were called The Killers, Futureheads, Franz Ferdinand or The Kaiser Chiefs? I believe have french a word to describe Maximo perfectly: DOUCHEBAGS :)
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-05-16 18:18 [#01601524]
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I thought that you left?
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-16 18:23 [#01601532]
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In the end who cares? Why do people defend labels? Who cares? I feel that horsefactory had a good post.
I barely even listen to electronic music anymore.
No matter what genre you are into you will find these little quabbles amongst fans. I know people that love jazz that are real stuck up about the music and i know people into metal that argue about which metallica album is better.
Music isnt the only thing with fanboyism either. You can go with Movie Buffs, People who read books, any one who follows any sport.... blah blah blah.
Dont give me this "electronic blah blah blah" and "IDM blah blah forums blah blah"
OPEN YOUR EYES TO THE WORLD AROUND YOU.
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xceque
on 2005-05-16 18:26 [#01601534]
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xceque
on 2005-05-16 18:27 [#01601535]
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on 2005-05-16 18:28 [#01601537]
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-16 18:29 [#01601539]
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okayOkayOKAY!
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-05-16 18:31 [#01601540]
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-Respect-
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xceque
on 2005-05-16 18:31 [#01601541]
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Watch it, or you'll get the singles next.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-16 18:35 [#01601542]
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I think you just dominated everyone
:D
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-16 18:35 [#01601543]
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I dare you..
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-05-16 18:40 [#01601546]
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You have to admit, that collage does put it all in perspective.
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-16 18:43 [#01601551]
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Do not challenge his superior music collection!
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i_x_ten
from arsemuncher on 2005-05-16 18:45 [#01601552]
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A+
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Aesthetics
from the IDM Kiosk on 2005-05-16 18:46 [#01601553]
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I dare you too...
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-16 18:48 [#01601555]
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I dare you to post pics of your crush photo collection
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-16 18:53 [#01601558]
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quiet please
while xceque feverishly scans and crops his entire Warp singles collection.
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xceque
on 2005-05-16 18:55 [#01601560]
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I am allowing a suitable moment of gravitas to pass before continuing. Also, a new page.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-16 18:58 [#01601566]
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virginpusher
from County Clare on 2005-05-16 18:59 [#01601569]
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-16 19:00 [#01601570]
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Warp are good! ofcourse they make mistakes in YOUR opinion. I think they just sign/release music they like. There's no massive marketing strategy to keep electronica afloat or a switch to average Iggy/ESG influenced pop. It's like everyone is 65 and wishes it was like it used to be in the good old days.
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dog_belch
from Netherlands, The on 2005-05-16 19:03 [#01601582]
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I don't even think the people moaning want the good old days, they want such a narrow band of releases from a couple of years in the late 90s and take that as representative of the label. I don't think a fraction of the people moaning about Warp take in the whole story.
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-16 19:04 [#01601585]
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"I think they just sign/release music they like."
I think that is exactly right. and it is also what there is to like about Warp, besides some of the releases which are kind of like okay like.
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Key
from Bbbbarrow-in-f (United Kingdom) on 2005-05-16 19:05 [#01601587]
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Yeah, its not as if Warp have a clean reputation of crappy guitar music anyway (Vincent Gallo, Jimi Tenor anyone?)
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JivverDicker
from my house on 2005-05-16 19:06 [#01601589]
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You're right. If I wasn't 12 I'd tell all these lot where to get off. Imbeciles
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qrter
from the future, and it works (Netherlands, The) on 2005-05-16 19:06 [#01601590]
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which is why there is such a large amount of derivative EYE DEE EMM music released, that sound like clones of either Aphex Twirn or mid-90s Aurtechrer.
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jkd
from Twitch City (Canada) on 2005-05-16 19:07 [#01601591]
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oh the drama!
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