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I finally thought of ONE thing I didn't like about the game. When you got to a boss character in Ocarina of Time, you were given a short animated introduction before the ugly beast finally dropped in front of you and it's name appeared in giant letters across your screen. Sadly, in Wind Waker you are given neither the introduction or the identity.. I wonder why they chose to omit this? I thought it gave the end monsters more of a personality and helped define their place in Ganondorf's legion of evil.. When finally vanquished you could bask in your victory knowing that 'Queen Gohma' would never rise again. Meh. |
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"Try sending it to pod_child@hotmail.com" Yeah i sent you something. Hope you're able to retrieve it. I take it the term "pod child" is taken from something out of The Wind Waker? :-p "You should send your old Gamecube and Wind Waker to a certain Finnish damsel in distress." Lol yeah, it would be very good for my karma i'm sure! I mean giving away a gamecube AND zelda-game... :-p That's the kind of stuff that instantly guarantees you a place in heaven when you die ;-) "It was a platinum GBA SP far off in the distance, waiting to be liberated from it's cardboard box.. " so did you get one? And are you giving your old normal GBA to a certain Finnish damsel in distress? You know it would be the chivalrous thing to do. ;-) |
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"At this point it's either Nintendo or children's literature." You're a writer? Now that's what i call a nice profession! I'd go for the children's literature for 3 reasons: 1. you have a much bigger chance of making it. 2. getting too close to nintendo would probably make it loose some of it's magic for you... like meeting your hero... it's always a bit of an anti-climax. And afterwards your hero has become a lot more normal, and alot less "magic" 3. well i just love children's literature :-) It's so imaginative! All these bizarre things are happening in children's books, but it's all presented as if it were completely normal. So the kids just think: "oh animals talk to eachother? that's cool." I think it can really change the way they look at the world :-) (hopefully make it a little more beautiful. I'm trying to make a career out of illustrating children's books :-) I remember some of those illustrations i saw as a child so well... i just hope one day someone in the world will feel the same way about one of my illustrations. |
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I think easy rpg's are in general also more enjoyable... because the story keeps moving at a steady pace and you get sucked into it alot more. (i always very vividly remember a snes-rpg called "illusion of gaia"... i played through it in a matter of days, the puzzles were almost a joke... so easy. But it felt more like reading a good adventurebook than playing a videogame... i loved it! And there's ofcourse also Paper Mario. Exactly the same story --> very easy/very enjoyable). However... i do feel i should get stuck on a zelda-games atleast a couple of times ;-) Even if it does hold up the story. Walking around helplessly trying to figure out what to do next is just part of the zelda-experience! But.... all in all i'm not too worried about it being too easy. "There's no needless frustration, No pointless chores" For that reason... difficult games are just fine, as long as they don't become frustrating :-) Oh and plllllllease tell me there are no skulltulas to be found in the wind waker!! :-p Talk about frustrating gameplay! Sometimes i still wake up screaming in the middle of the night... thinking i'm hearing that skulltula-sound! |
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Erik - after finally reading your letter I have only two words for you : HARD CORE That's awesome. It's already in the bag as far as I'm concerned. I can't think of anything more original than that.. You NEED to get me some scans before you send it off. I'm just about to goto bed so I'll reply to your mail and the rest of your posts tomorrow.... p.s. If you wake up in the middle of the night and your house is burning down you know what to go for first. Forget your photo albums, forget your cat, forget your little sister; you grab 'THE PROJECT' and you hurl yourself out the nearest window. Got that? |
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One more thing before I join Kirby in Dreamland : http://www.gamespot.com/gba/news/news_6025292.html Cha-Ching! If things keep going this way I might never leave the house again. |
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"so did you get one? And are you giving your old normal GBA to a certain Finnish damsel in distress? You know it would be the chivalrous thing to do. ;-)" I'm on my third attempt today; preparing to embark for a cold and distant land in search of a sole SP. It seems they're sold out all over the country and it's becoming increasingly difficult to find one anywhere other than auction sites. One of Nintendo's little marketing tricks to build demand I guess.. New shipments aren't supposed to be coming in until early may. I don't know if that's such a good strategy though. It seems like by that time, people would opt to just buy the Gamecube GBA player instead. $50 cheaper and a giant screen of visibility. But what do I know? I shouldn't question the master's decisions. And the Finnish damsel doesn't long for a Gameboy, she lusts for a Wind Waker ready Gamecube.. Besides, I already traded mine in for credit at the nerd shop a while back. You on the other hand are in a perfect position to exhibit nonbiased love and compassion, enriching the world and all it's inhabitants. "You're a writer? Now that's what i call a nice profession! I'd go for the children's literature for 3 reasons:" Writer and illustrator. I'd love to see some of your work if you by chance have any of it scanned in. Jpegs preferably.. I'll reciprocate if you're interested. And I'm not worried about getting too close to Nintendo and having it lose it's gleam for me.. I'd be so thrilled to be part of the creation of such magical worlds and atmospheres for others that I think the feeling would only be heightened. Shit, I hope you're the only one that reads that. |
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"I think easy rpg's are in general also more enjoyable... because the story keeps moving at a steady pace and you get sucked into it alot more" Absolutely. "(i always very vividly remember a snes-rpg called "illusion of gaia"... i played through it in a matter of days, the puzzles were almost a joke... so easy. But it felt more like reading a good adventurebook than playing a videogame... i loved it! And there's ofcourse also Paper Mario. Exactly the same story --> very easy/very enjoyable)." Was Illusion of Gaia a Squaresoft game in which you played as a blondhaired boy with a wrench? I think one of my friends had that when I was little.. That's all I can remember though. I really hope they port Paper Mario to the GBA; I never got a chance to play it on SNES but everyone that has tells me it's amazing. |
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"Oh and plllllllease tell me there are no skulltulas to be found in the wind waker!! :-p Talk about frustrating gameplay! Sometimes i still wake up screaming in the middle of the night... thinking i'm hearing that skulltula-sound!" You'll be sleeping soundly soon enough. No skulltulas(or equivalent) to be found in Wind Waker. That was a pretty harrowing noise wasn't it? |
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Nice find Dael, thanks for sharing.. |
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Pomme, how far are thee? |
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argghh, us aussie gamers must wait and wait and |
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I feel for you my little wombat. I think I got an ulcer the final week before release. Where's surrounded? This thread is wilting without him.. 5 posts in a row and no replies. Pathetic. |
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oh yeah, how many memory blocks does a save take up in wind waker? I'm pretty maxed out at the moment and can see myself getting one of those 256 cards soon... |
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How do you tell? Under the Link icon it says : Zelda: The Wind Waker [12] 4/17 Save Data I have three seperate games saved(the maximum amount allowed). |
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I think it would be 12 then, I wonder what the 4/17 is for? a datestamp of some kind perhaps? |
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Ahh, I see. Yes, 12 blocks.. "a datestamp of some kind perhaps?" Must be, I can't think of anything else it would represent. What's your favorite Gamecube game so far? |
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"Where's surrounded? This thread is wilting without him.. " yes i know, i'm sorry... i've been kinda busy with you-know-what ;-) "the project" But i hope JAroen is still reading all this? I managed to reserve (well sort of) the game after all. I finally found a toystore that didn't have a dumb blond 15-year old girl selling the videogames :-p No this guy actually knew there was gonna be a bonus-disc with Wind Waker (altough he thought ALL the previous zelda-games would be on it, haha, now wouldn't that be sweet?). But anyway, he wrote down my name. And incase they would be going really fast... he'd put one aside for me. So maybe you could try to work something like that out too? I didn't exactly pre-order it, just made sure they wouldn't all sell out before i could get my hands on a copy :-p |
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"That's awesome. It's already in the bag as far as I'm concerned. I can't think of anything more original than that.." Hey thanks man! For all of your kind words in that post! :-) It's good to know that someone as zelda-obsessed as you also thinks this is a good idea! I got alot of work done yesterday, and i plan on doing even more this afternoon. So it's all coming along nicely i think. If you happen to think of any interesting situations/moments from one of the games, be sure to let me know! I'll have to see about those scans... hm... i'm thinking of taking some pictures of it before i send it off, and i think there are some stores that'll also put your pictures on a CD-R. I would also just like to have some images of it for myself to remember it by :-)... so this might be a good opportunity to also show them to the rest of the world eh. |
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"But what do I know? I shouldn't question the master's decisions." well... nintendo isn't doing that great at the moment (sadly). It seems they do have a bit of an image-problem. So maybe you should question their decisions ;-) I read an interesting comment on the situation the other day... that nintendo should either start making some more darker and realistic games... to try and and compete with PS2 en Xbox better. Or (and this is my favourite option :-)), they should just give up on trying to be one of the big 3 companies. Forget about market-shares and aggresive marketing and all that. Nintendo-games are unique and different, and they should just focus on the audience that can appreciate those qualities. So in other words they should become like apple. They don't try to sell more apple-computers than pc's... they just make their hardware for the people who appreciate their stuff. |
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"I'd love to see some of your work if you by chance have any of it scanned in." Fuck, i really should have a scanner :-( (i'm sort of saving up to buy a proper computer (apple preferably) with all the proper programs and scanners and colorprinters and whatnot... i really miss having acces to all that during my artschool-period. I made a website with some work of mine back when i was in artschool. But i'm getting really tired of it. Some of that stuff is 4 years old... but ohwell, you can i feel my more recent work is alot better, hehe. It's mostly written in dutch though, so if you have trouble finding your way in there, i'll send you some jpeg's. But if you just click everywhere you should be able to find them anyway. I would love to see some of your work... so very interested :-) I think miyamoto was originally a painter, when he got given the chance to start working on a videogame for nintendo (which became donkey kong, as you probably already know)... so you never know :-p |
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"I think one of my friends had that when I was little.. " i don't think squaresoft made it... hm... not sure about that though. You can find a review and lots of screenshots . Oddly enough it's not a very positive review :-p I really have very fond memories of playing this game. One of the nicest touches (such an original idea!) was when i left a town in the game, and a while later i noticed a strange object in my items-screen that i'd never seen before. So when i used it, it turned out to be a letter from one of the persons you met in the town, and it started "i secretly put this letter with your belongings while you were sleeping" ha! That was really cool :-) I felt so sad when this game was over... like i was really parting with a good friend of mine. If you ever get the chance you really should play it! I really hope they'll port this one to GBA! "I really hope they port Paper Mario to the GBA;" Not much chance of that ever happening mate, since it's a N64-game :-p And of the best and prettiest one available on the system if you ask me! It uses the N64's 3d-powers to create a very believable world that appears to be made entirely from cutout paper figures. It really looks quite spectacular! When you enter a building the entire structure just folds open to allow you to look inside. And when figures in the game turn around to change direction... you can actually see they are flat... very bizarre but very beautiful! The story itself is sort of a tongue-in-cheek version of the standard mario-story (princess gets kidnapped by bowser). But they have some fun with that... it's the only game that has ever made me laugh out loud. Especially the levels where you control the princess as she tries to escape bowser's castle are fantastic and hilarious! As much of a must-play as majora's mask i'd say ;-) |
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"Or (and this is my favourite option :-)), they should just give up on trying to be one of the big 3 companies. Forget about market-shares and aggresive marketing and all that. Nintendo-games are unique and different, and they should just focus on the audience that can appreciate those qualities." I agree completely. I also think that this path would, in actuality, be more profitable to them in the long run. I see the Gamecube as an elitist system: It's true charms are reserved for those with fertile imaginations and an appreciation for genius. Nintendo should focus all it's attention on internal development. Why? Here's a list of the Gamecube games I own: Zelda: Wind Waker Super Mario Sunshine Super Smash Brothers Melee Metroid Prime Starfox Adventures Skies of Arcadia: Legends Pikmin I count 1 title created by a non-Nintendo exclusive developer. One out of 7 $50 games that I've purchased in the year or so since I bought a Gamecube. |
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i need a gamecube. did i say that already? |
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I think anyone who's a nintendoholic would have to agree that nintendos biggest asset is the ability to understand the art of gameplay like no other... As for the thought of paper mario being released on GBA, that sounds great, there wasn't a local PAL release over here for the n64 so I had to find an emulator+rom to check it out. After playing it I couldn't believe that it didn't get a local release. It was an rpg for the 64 that I had allways been looking for but could never find... |
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"I made a website with some work of mine back when i was in artschool. But i'm getting really tired of it. Some of that stuff is 4 years old... but ohwell, you can see it here i feel my more recent work is alot better, hehe." I really like your style. Try and get access to a scanner, I'd love to see some of your more recent works. I'll attempt sending you a few of mine via the temptuous Hotmail. Hope they make it through to you unharmed.. "i don't think squaresoft made it... hm... not sure about that though." Right you are, I was thinking of Secret of Evermore. I've never played the one of which you speak though I'll try and keep my eyes peeled for it. Another tremendously fun game with virtually no challenge was Legend of Mana for the Playstation. It was the sequel to Secret of Mana for the SNES.. Ever heard of it? The whole thing plays out like a storybook with new pages for each chapter. You eventually get to have your own house and garden that you can grow different fruits and vegetables in with mixed results. There's also a little stable where you can keep your captured beasts and raise them to fight alongside you. All the combat takes place in realtime from a side perspective a la Final Fight, Streets of Rage, Double Dragon, etc. I wish I had a decent computer so that I could download the ROM and play it over again - Really a fantastic game. "Not much chance of that ever happening mate, since it's a N64-game :-p And of the best and prettiest one available on the system if you ask me!" Argh.. Right again. Though I've never played either of them, what I meant to say was that I hope they port the Mario RPG to GBA. Paper Mario sounds fantastic though, wonder why I never came across it. |
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"I think anyone who's a nintendoholic would have to agree that nintendos biggest asset is the ability to understand the art of gameplay like no other.." Agreed! |
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hey cabbog, what's all this "project" talk in this thread?, is it some kind of competition for zelda/metriod? oh yeah, I got up to Metriod Prime last night, that's one ugly mutha! I only got about half of his energy down and I was killed, how many rockets did you have going into the final battle? I've got 185 at the moment and I'm considering going for a bit of a wander back through the game in search of more... any suggestions? |
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Just try to be more conservative; I only had 180 when I beat her. I think the key to staying alive is making sure you're snuggly trenched everytime she charges.. That's all I can tell you. I haven't played it in a few months so it's not as fresh in my mind as it used to be. Good luck, it's a really tough fight. |
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Im still in the phazon mines on the boss there, am I almost done? i havent played this game for months and havent played Zelda wind waker for at least 2 weeks. I really need to refrain from buying new games until i beat all the ones i have; its ludicrous how many games for gba and gamecube i havent finished. |
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"am I almost done?" The end is nigh. Why did you stop playing? You weren't bored were you? As for me, I finally got a GBA SP today! I had to sever the spinal cord of a small child to get it into my hands but boy was it was worth it.. As soon as I got home I went into my room, popped Mario Advance 3 in and turned off the lights. Beauuuuty. I watched the opening sequence, marveled at the panorama of Yoshi's island and then turned it off. I'm going to save it for bedtime. Man, "lights out" wouldn't have meant shit to me if I had one of these when I was little. |
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Short interview with Shigeru Miyamoto : http://www.techtv.com/extendedplay/videofeatures/story/0,24 330,3375049,00.html |
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dang, that link didn't work for me cabbog :(, however I remember this site and article and managed to find it in my favourites and as for Metriod I got even closer to the end last night. I don't want to give away any spoilers for anyone else but I have one word, HYPERMODE !!!!!! |
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I only just realised your avatar is a character from the wind waker :-) That's awesome! (i noticed that same girl on the dutch zelda-site, so...). Why don't you get a gamecube then? (the anwser is probably money-related ;-)). You're surely gonna love the zeldagames on it! |
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"It's true charms are reserved for those with fertile imaginations and an appreciation for genius. " Yes! Exactly... why don't they realise this themselves? :-p If PS2 and Xbox are like popular music, nintendo would be able to provide the videogame-equivalent of underground-music. "Nintendo should focus all it's attention on internal development." Well ehr... isn't that kind of what they're already doing? As i see it the biggest problems lies with marketing... nothing wrong with the games imo :-) Your list of games looks excellent! At this moment i've only got mario sunshine and pikmin. Next up is zelda, and after i finished that one metroid... yup... the future looks good :-D I also think Kirby's Airride could become really good (i've always been a fan of kirby... since his first gameboy-adventure). I recently learned that in that game you won't have to press a button to race (like a gas-pedal)... the racing goes automatically. I think you only use the controlstick and one other button to control the entire game! Sounds like it could be really wild and frantic! |
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"I'll attempt sending you a few of mine via the temptuous Hotmail. Hope they make it through to you unharmed.." I hope you didn't try already? Cause if you did, it didnt work :-( I received nothing from you. And about my work (thnx for the compliments!), it occured to me it might actually be easier if you gave me your postal-address. So if you're interested i could just send you some photocopies or photographs or something like that. (I think it looks better that way than on a sterile computerscreen anyway). Let me know if you're interested. Getting acces to a scanner might be a bit difficult for me at the moment. |
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"Another tremendously fun game with virtually no challenge was Legend of Mana for the Playstation. It was the sequel to Secret of Mana for the SNES.. Ever heard of it?" No... i've played Secret of Mana for the snes (beautiful game, enjoyed it very much. The only thing i didn't like were the other characters following you around onscreen all the time. They always seemed to get stuck behind a tree or something, and i had to go back to lead them after me. They could have made them a little more intelligent!). But never heard of a sequel. (it kind of figures since i've never owned a playstation). "your own house and garden that you can grow different fruits and vegetables in with mixed results. There's also a little stable where you can keep your captured beasts and raise them to fight alongside you." This sounds amazing though! Wow :-D That game really must have had alot of depth! It's a good thing zelda is coming soon to take my mind of all the other games i still want to play ;-) I have a new tv now (well, 2nd hand really, but it still works excellent). Only now do i realise how weird and blurry my old tv had become. Everything looks so much sharper now, texts are easier to read, details more visible etc... it's amazing! So... i'm all set to play the Wind Waker :-) "Paper Mario sounds fantastic though, wonder why I never came across it." Yes, it hardly got any promotion here in the netherlands. And i never found it in a store either (until about a year ago (the gamecube was already released) when i suddenly discovered it in the bargain-basket somewhere :-)). But it's like nintendo didn't really realise how much potential this game had... strange. The manual is also in black and white and very short and technical. Not even nearly as playful and fun to read as some of nintendo's other manuals. very very strange.... this game deserved much more! They should have just promoted it as the sequel to Mario64... they've done unusual sequels before after all (smb2) |
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rsi alert man you type loads.. did you know you were listed |
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"hey cabbog, what's all this "project" talk in this thread?, is it some kind of competition for zelda/metriod?" nintendo of europe organised a competition where you can win a platinum gamecube+zelda and a zelda t-shirt signed by mr. miyamoto :-) All you have to do is create something from the zelda-games in real life. I refer to my entry as "the project" to avoid people stealing my idea ;-) Whaha! |
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"rsi alert" he, it's funny you should say that. I've actually had rsi before. But i took some therapy to improve my ehr... "lichaamshouding". It's amazing how much it helps when you sit up straight and relax your shoulders when typing :-) I haven't been troubled by rsi eversince! "did you know you were listed here? " No i did not! Hehe, that's very cool! Thanks for telling me! I'll be sure to rub that in morton's face next time he goes on about how much more points than me he's got ;-) |
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yeah... 2800 pts and 1 million chars, where ophecks with about 8000 has 1.8 million you've gotta pay mr phobia extra cash for taking up space :) |
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cabbog, actually I just couldnt beat the boss so I took a break for metroid prime for a while (a little too long, i probably forgot how to play it) but I logged a few hours into zelda and I just re-entered the forsaken fortress with my newly acquired master sword. that last area was incredible! (the part where you get the sword and everything turns to color). hopefully I'll get some playing time into metroid today and I'll report back either with new advances in location in zelda or metroid...sometime soon. |
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you mean the omega pirate? hes easy when you know the trick |
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No, metroid prime. Who/what is the omega pirate? I can't remember. |
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in metroid prime, when your at about 60% and your in the phazon mines, there's this huge space pirate who can cloak and all... youve gotta fight him to get a new suit or sumthin... |
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yeah, im stuck on the boss in the phazon mines, I only fought him once but it was hard. I'll give it a whirl again today and see if I can show him who's boss. |
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youve gotta destroy his shoulder / knee pads with missiles/beam combos (or drop a super morph ball bomb under him)... dont let him get too close he'll knock you out badly... when he teleports just switch to X-ray and shoot him with everything you've got, hell dissapear, do it again, hell fight you again. Dont shoot the small pirates, just avoid their fire as theyll get killed by his attacks later on... will take you 2-3 rounds till you beat him, its not that difficult when you do it right |
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"also think Kirby's Airride could become really good (i've always been a fan of kirby... since his first gameboy-adventure)" Me too. I even had Kirby Pinball.. Hal Laboratories is my favorite Nintendo developer, they've definately got the magic. "I hope you didn't try already? Cause if you did, it didnt work :-( I received nothing from you." I haven't been able to get into Hotmail lately without crashing the browser. They will come, it will just take a while. "And about my work (thnx for the compliments!), it occured to me it might actually be easier if you gave me your postal-address." Gabriel Klau 3796 Morely Rd. Ashville, New York 14710 I'll be eagerly awaiting my Netherlands package. |
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