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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-01 01:40 [#00763321]
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finished it last week... tears in my eyes :P
great game, one of the best games i ever played
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-01 01:47 [#00763323]
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hm... i never really enjoyed that fishing-game. Never did understand why everyone was always so enthusiastic about it. I just thought it was incredibly boring and frustrating :-p
I'm glad it didn't make it into the windwaker.
The ending is pretty great eh, jaroen? I like the way you're not just rescueing a princess as in previous zelda's. Windwakers story was certainly alot more intruiging. A nice melancholic and open ending :-)
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JAroen
from the pineal gland on 2003-07-01 01:58 [#00763324]
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hehe yeah.. altho i usually hate open endings
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Mr_Flappypants
from Louisville (United States) on 2003-07-01 03:59 [#00763363]
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i finished it forever ago.
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Cabbog
from Chautauqua (United States) on 2003-07-01 07:30 [#00763527]
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Erik, I received your package yesterday. Euphoric! My computer should be up and running by the end of the week - Hopefully his thread will be happily bobbing at the top of the message board again soon. If nothing else I'll try and get an e-mail to you by the end of the week.
Jayforks - More on your lack of artistic sensibility to come.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-01 09:29 [#00763648]
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Hey! Good to hear it got to you safely :-) I was a bit worried... supposedly these packages are handled rather roughly during oversea travels. I was afraid they'd fold it or whatever.
"Euphoric!"
Jay! :-D
But okay, take your time. I hope everything works out with your computer. I'm currently in the first week of a three-week holiday. So i've plenty of time to check the board and paint and whatnot... hm... this is definitly the good life!
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-07-01 10:32 [#00763724]
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haha, im so far behind in this game, i dont even remember where im at but i dont know what to do, the boat guy says something about talking to people on the islands to find out how to gain access to these three places or something along those lines.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-01 20:39 [#00764446]
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Zelda 1- 80 Zelda 2- 60 Zelda 3- 95 Link's Awakening- 85 Ocarina of Time- 94 Majora's Mask- ....haven't played it yet... :-/ Wind Waker- 90
And that's the way it is.
The incessant item collection late in this game is pretty tedious, but other than that, I actually didn't mind the sailing as much as I thought I would. I should finish this before the weekend, and I'll probably play it again soon... and that's a big plus, I RARELY replay long games nowadays... I don't think I've done that since Metal Gear Solid 2 almost 2 years ago.
In other news, the GBA Earthbound game got a sparkly wicked mega awesome review from the world famous Famitsu, Platinum Award... oh baby. Only FF6, Chrono Trigger and Chrono Cross are better than that sucker, I'm tellin' ya.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-07-01 20:58 [#00764478]
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earthbound on GBA? sweet, is it just a remake\port update like the marios and everything?
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-01 21:10 [#00764498]
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Just a port... which is JUST the way it should be. I DON'T want another Earthbound, it's already one of a kind (two of a kind if you count the almost as cool first Mother game).
In 2050, I want to look back at Earthbound as a wonderful anomaly.
Only thing I'm worried about on the GBA is the music... I've never heard a soundtrack quite like Keiichi Suzuki's work on EB, but I don't think the GBA soundchip would do it justice... uh oh.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-02 02:28 [#00764712]
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"Zelda 3- 95 Link's Awakening- 85 Ocarina of Time- 94"
Hm... it seems odd to give Link's Awakening 10 points less than Zelda3. Ofcourse it is somewhat lacking in the graphics department (and the sound-department). But it was such an excellent game! According to you it is just slightly better than Zelda1... totally unfair if you ask me :-p
About earthbound > good news! I've always been interested in that game, but i don't think it ever quite made it too europe. The GBA-version probably won't be released here either, but atleast you can import USA GBA games and play them over here too.
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-07-02 13:37 [#00765294]
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nice, I dont own a real copy of earthbound on snes so the port is just want im looking for. anyways, you realize a new earthbound was going to come out on n64 but now it might come out on gamecube.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-08 07:27 [#00770648]
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The 95 for Link's Awakening may be a bit low, but I've never beaten it! I'd say I only got halfway, so I can't really judge. I should have put a disclaimer.
I haven't played Oracle of Ages or Seasons yet... what are they like?
Update, it's looking less and less likely that Mother 1-2 is even going to come out in the US... bad news, but it's to be expected... games THAT intelligent usually go over American gamers' heads.
Mother 3 is in development for the GBA, that's even MORE exciting... but again, will it even survive the journey overseas? Probably not. The N64 version barely even LOOKED like a Mother game (other than the Mr. Saturns! I want to squeeze them), but it DID look pretty good... I'd like to see see the light of day.
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uzim
on 2003-07-08 07:31 [#00770655]
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i thought it was deceiving when Tetra was revealed her 'true' identity...
she was so much better as Tetra! =/
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-23 12:51 [#00791054]
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Jesus fuck.
OK, I took a big break from this game for various reasons, and I'm back, collecting the 8 shards. Totally unenjoyable. Can't fucking stand it. Using the Wind Waker has become a royal pain in the ass... MUST I sit through the animation every FUCKING TIME?
I'm also incredibly annoyed at the sea battles... to get what I want to get, I need to kill a lot of sharks/cannons/boats/giant peahats or whatever they are, and I'm so sick of being hit and then falling off my cocksucker boat. Who thought of that idea? Fucking irritating. Just makes the battles longer. Not harder. They have a skewered view of what's fucking CHALLENGING.
I like exploring (though the islands are disapointingly TINY) but I can't deal with this collection shit. I've been to all these places before and enjoyed finding out what they were and doing whatever it is I could do, now I'm not interested in going back to certain places, but I have to. This was a CHEAP way of prolonging the gameplay experience. I don't know why they didn't put more dugneons into it, maybe time restraints... but sailing these seas is a waste of time when I could be utilizing the amazing engine they crafted for this game for exploring another huge castle or dungeon.
Thing is, it was even worse in Japan! They toned down the item fetching because of bad feedback! Poor Japanese, man...
I think there's an item to keep the lights on the water on when you get close to a treasure, I didn't find it yet. And so, using my crane is a painfully annoying and extremely UN-FUN experience. Wish it was more forgiving Not to mention 99% of the fucking things are Rupees.
What makes this all the more frustrating is I just beat the two Sage dungeons, both of which were fantastic and totally enjoyable and rewarding. Hardly wanted them to end.
This game, at its best, is perfect. Beautiful and a breeze to play. But it's SO flawed and has so much untapped potential. I also don't give a shit about upgrading, because you don't NEED to... The game is a pu
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-23 12:53 [#00791055]
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And FUCK YOU for downsizing my message/
The game is a pushover, the only difficulties coming from TEDIUM. What's the point of getting pieces of heart when you're practically invincible anyway? Thus, extra exploration isn't particularly rewarding.
Anyway, I'm sure once I finish this fucking collecting, I'll be in a good mood again, be reminded why I bought this otherwise stellar game, and regret this post.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-23 13:30 [#00791116]
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Forget it, feeling better already... I was just stuck at some part and my volatile temper was starting to bubble.
I still hate using the crane though. But I'm happy again.
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-23 13:43 [#00791130]
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"Thing is, it was even worse in Japan!"
heh, yeah i read that! You had to find (and have translated) a map which had the location of another map, and that map then had the location of the triforce-shard. A little over the top.
For me that part of the game worked out pretty good. Since it gave me a chance to finally do some real exploring and see all the small islands and whatnot. Earlier in the game the king of red lions is constantly rushing you to make haste.
But if you had already explored all of the land before the shards-part of the game, i can see how it might become a little tedious i guess.
"the lights on the water on when you get close to a treasure, I didn't find it yet. And so, using my crane is a painfully annoying"
Well are you actually listening to the game? Or just playing it whilst listening to some other music? :-p
There's very clearly a sound (like a sacred choir or something) when you're directly above a treasure. Using that i only 'missed' the treasure with the crane 1 or 2 times during the whole game.
I'll now be awaiting your complaints about the last dungeon (which to be honest, i thought was a little dissapointing myself).
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-07-23 14:01 [#00791164]
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The sound isn't helping me! I'll get to what SEEMS like the loudest point, and then it won't be there... maybe it has something to do with my mono speakers, I don't have a stereo TV... I set the audio settings to mono thinking it might help, it hasn't... maybe I have poor depth perception! I see the light, I approach it, it vanishes, and then I can't line myself up right, heh...
Well, all my complaining was just me being really pissed off, I don't even mind the exploring all that much. I have a big mouth when I get discombobulated, I say things I don't mean.
But I'm repeatedly let down by the destinations, like that Steel Tower thingy... man, I wished I could have explored inside of it, climb some big stairs and fight a boss or something, but all that was there was a chest... ''this is almost too easy!''. No traps, no nothing. Bah. But I'm on track again. I just need to practice my craning!
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surrounded
from it won't be hard anymore to li on 2003-07-23 14:14 [#00791184]
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"I see the light, I approach it, it vanishes"
Okay but then you need to focus on those patterns on the water. You must have noticed how it isn't just all blue, but there are these cartoony lines across the water that make it look like a real ocean. Just keep your eyes focussed on where you see the ring of light, and sail to that part of the water-line-pattern... you'll hear the sound and well... you can't miss really :-p
It can be frustrating to pull up nothing but small rupees though. It's like the entire ocean is now dampé's graveyard ;-) But somehow even at the end of the game seeing a ring of light still got me excited. Such a sense of exploration!
"I wished I could have explored inside of it, climb some big stairs and fight a boss or something,"
It's true... you can tell at certain parts of the game that they had to rush to get it in the stores on time. I bet during the first phase of design when they were just throwing around ideas... that they had intended to make things like the steel tower more ambitious. And have you boarded the ghostship yet? Such a dissapointment :-(
I also bet fire- and ice-island were originally supposed to be big and challenging dungeons. And then maybe also another dungeon where you could find the 3rd of those crystal balls (that is now just given to you by lord jabu jabu... i mean jabun). Do you realise that would have made eight dungeons? 8! The magic zelda-dungeons-number :-D
It's still a brilliant game though. Most definitely my favourite zelda. The weeks i spent playing it were some of the best videogame-experience weeks ever. I can't wait to play the sequel :-D Maybe because they're using the same engine, they'll have more time to focus on making the game bigger...
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-08-15 09:15 [#00823321]
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guys...i havent played zelda or metroid for almost two months, im totally behind, my goal was to have beaten zelda, metroid, mario and eternal darkness, but nothing happened!
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pomme de terre
from obscure body in the SK System on 2003-08-15 09:37 [#00823357]
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That is the best negative review I have ever seen. Those are the things I really disliked about the game.
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epohs
from )C: on 2003-08-15 09:42 [#00823363]
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i just liked watching. i'm a voyeurist gamer.
i play video games vicariously through other people, because i rarely am interested enough to play.
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2003-08-15 12:49 [#00823609]
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Mario- only got about 30 Shines, never played again. It's a good game... but like Epohs, that's a game I like watching rather than playing... and I don't know why.
Metroid- yeesh, get off your butt. Metroid Prime 2 is already on the way and Zero Mission is too. Strange, they put out 3 Metroids in the space of like, 1 decade and a half, and now the market is flooded with them. But I'm not complaining.
Eternal Darkness- I got this for Christmas, but it's been buried under a pile of games that are ahead of it in urgency... good game though. I like Resident Evil a lot more.
Zelda- beat it a monthish ago, was great... best looking game ever, I loved the style. But I don't think I'll ever play it again. They're working on the sequel already.
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neetta
from Finland on 2003-11-23 11:47 [#00962223]
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collecting the triforce shards is boring :(
(i'm kinda late on this, eh?)
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MachineofGod
from the land of halo's (United States) on 2003-11-23 18:08 [#00962776]
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ive been catching up on res evil 0, after i beat that, ill try and beat prime (im on the final boss). then itll be zelda time. i might get ssx3 and 1080 for christmas so i dont know, i could get backed up.
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optimus prime
on 2004-02-02 03:50 [#01058080]
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i finally beat this after owning it for about a year. it's easily my favourite zelda game, and i've played them all.
the final battle is probably my favourite boss fight in any video game.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-02 04:27 [#01058110]
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glasse and i also recently beat this game.
it was alot of fun, in my opinion one of the best zelda games since the snes one or the gameboy ones.
glasse thought the ganon fight at the end was kinda lame... i guess i sorta agree, i DID expect like some crazy demon-pig type crap. he wasnt even really that hard.
we had a jar of granma's soup, a red chu jar, and 2 fairie jars... and i only had to use one fairie jar (i bet i could go without even that if i replayed him).
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optimus prime
on 2004-02-02 04:50 [#01058130]
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i mostly like how it looked. i love rain. and the outfit ganon was wearing, how it moved in the wind. just looked really cinematic to me.
but i agree, way too easy. but don't forget the giant monster forms he took before the final showdown.
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tibbar
from harrisburg, pa (United States) on 2004-02-02 06:55 [#01058219]
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yeah, the puppet ganons were harder than the actual dude himself.
i guess we DID get to fight the pig ganon, technically... it had the pig-like face on it.
but yeah, the missions and the play control and stuff were all top-notch. definitely my fav all-round zelda game so far. it was more like the first one and the gameboy ones to me.
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child810
from boston (United States) on 2004-03-27 23:21 [#01122302]
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Just beat this today. WOW amazing game. Loved the last fight and the game as a whole. With confirmation from Nintendo that the sequal is under developement I am a very happy drunk person.
Favorite part of the game was the sound the guys with the telescopes made when you talked to them. Classic.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-19 10:13 [#01150210]
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just started playing, more to come....
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-19 10:17 [#01150216]
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the deal with this game looking like a music video for the gorillaz
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-19 10:22 [#01150221]
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yeah it reminded me of that old game Parappa Da Rappa
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nacmat
on 2004-04-19 10:38 [#01150245]
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its hard to read cabbog´s name.... nice guy
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pOgO
from behind your belly button fluff on 2004-04-19 10:40 [#01150247]
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gave up on this
and ocarina too =o(
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-19 10:42 [#01150251]
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agreed
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Ophecks
from Nova Scotia (Canada) on 2004-04-19 12:31 [#01150475]
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It's a good game, but playing Zelda 3 for the first time in a long time made it seem pretty slow and annoying. The sailing... no, I'll never get used to it, I'll never enjoy that stuff. I also felt consistently underwhelmed by the exploration and easy difficulty. It's still a classic. I'm nitpicking because I hold Nintendo games up to an insanely high standard.
One thing remains constant... Koji Kondo is amazing. The soundtrack is full of great tracks that I listen to all the time, still.
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Ceri JC
from Jefferson City (United States) on 2004-04-19 12:41 [#01150508]
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Snap. Majora's mask is my favourite of the recent Zelda games. I still think I like Zelda 2 on the NES best.
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-19 12:43 [#01150512]
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i just got downthrust!
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recycle
from Where is Phobiazero (Lincoln) (United States) on 2004-04-19 12:43 [#01150513]
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to bad another great person is gone
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roygbivcore
from Joyrex.com, of course! on 2004-04-19 14:57 [#01150902]
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i'm working on majora's mask
beat ocarina a while ago, thought the last battle was way too easy
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DeLtoiD
from Ontario on 2004-04-25 16:47 [#01160127]
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all in all, i've gotta pretty far so far.......
majora's mask is harder.
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J198
from Maastricht (Netherlands, The) on 2004-04-25 16:52 [#01160135]
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i gave up on majora's mask at that invisible zombie town with the music box where those fucking people dont dare come out and i just wait for nothing and i cant enter that tower either..
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-25 19:22 [#01160191]
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to beat that part, you need to go to the graveyard. wait until the final night, then use the captain's hat to make the skeletons open the grave - go into it and direct Dampe to dig up three beams of light - after you find them, a ghost appears - defeat it and you learn the Song of Storms.
Now, head back to that Ikana Village with the mummies / zombies and enter the cave just to the right / behing the music house. Walk forward inside until someone attacks you. Use the Song of Storms to defeat them, then the mummies (Gibdos) disappear from the house. Sneak into it when the girl is not looking, play the Song of Healing when you find the guy in the house, and you get the Gibdo Mask. Wear it and go down into the well, and the rest will explain itself....
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Oddioblender
from Fort Worth, TX (United States) on 2004-04-25 19:30 [#01160195]
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Wind Waker...aahh. I was pretty entranced when I first played it, but once I beat it about three times I noticed some things about it that disappointed me.
I have no problem with the graphics - they're gorgeous and I wouldn't mind if they stayed that way (though I wouldn't mind more realistic proportions on some NPCs). The camera issues were addressed (thank fucking god), i'm glad it's much more friendly and can be manipulated painlessly. Also, the swordfighting - god I love it! I wish there would have been characters more equal to Link in terms of swordplay though - I mean the Knights were tough fellows, but once you figured out how to deal with them, they were bags of winds.
The sailing is not too bad at all, it's just that... as much as there was to do at sea, much of it was unrewarding. Like those platforms - I searched every one of them and I think two of them gave me something of worth.
And this game was EASY. Once you play Majora's Mask, beat it, and come to this, you realize what a cakewalk it is. Getting Heart Containers by finding Treasure Charts? I remember in other Zelda games (especially Majora's Mask) you had to do some DIFFICULT stuff to get Heart Containers. They felt more like you earned them back then.
However, I did like the Spoils system - I hope it is in the next game, and that every enemy has a totally different spoil. Also the interactive environments are very nice.
All in all, this is not my favorite Zelda game, but it's not my least favorite either.
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